It all started on Saturday when I was in Drive Thru with this girl and were were running the show. Then my Assistant Manager comes over and complains about the fact that I'm using the lock button on my headset. The lock button makes it so I can talk outside and also take the money at the window (hands free) Anyways, supposedly this was another "new rule" they made up, which contradicts the one that they told us only 2 weeks ago that says we MUST answer the first beep. This frustrated me, and I lost it. Anyways, she was there taking the orders, and when I was trained, they said, with 3 people in drive thru, the window person doesn't need a headset. So I took it off, and she starts screaming at me that I HAVE to leave it on. Then she got into one of her moods and stormed off into the kitchen. She told me a few minutes later that she would send me home (which she did later) Before leaving, I had to talk to her, and she wanted me to explain myself. I told her my side of the story, and she wouldn't accept it. I then out of the blue told her, I quote:

"I do not believe you respect me or like me, and thus I do not respect you"

Well that didn't turn out well and I was on my way home for the day.

Today I go to work and one of the "head office" guys comes down and just gets in my face saying that I shouldn't say that and that he thinks it would be best if I were to leave. He didn't mean I was fired at all, but he seemed as if he wanted me out of his company. So the day ends and I'm having a better afternoon and then BAM! I get slapped with 2 write ups one for not respecting my assistant manager and a second for not having shaved to come to work (which I didn't think was even very long)

Anyways, I am frustrated with this company now, and all this after about 1 year and 3 months with them too. Funny thing is, I came over to this store because they needed someone to show an example and create a stable atmosphere. I guess they have had enough time with me eh? Oh well, I have currently started to look for another job, but am still employed with Tim's I need to be more carful until I find another job, because any little thing could turn into me getting fired.

Jobs like those at Tim's are high stress too.

And, they're a dime a dozen.

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Originally posted by shannifromregina:
P.S. Since I am on a rant about Tim's I think they should have buy 10 coffee's get one free. I have patrioned Tim's for over 5 years buying usaully 2 coffees per day and not once have I gotten a free cup of coffee.

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2 * 365 * 5 * 1.25 = $ 4562.50

Holy $!@$%@&^#! dude! Eat any Timbits too?

I buy tins of Tims coffee. $5.00/week.

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I buy tins of Tims coffee. $5.00/week.

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Originally posted by WingNut:
And as a member of the Green Party I think you should be buying fair trade, organic coffee.

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Don't forget that it also has to be shade grown

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Bah! I can't stand being screwed over like that.

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Originally posted by Marc:
I've tried Krispy Kreme once...way, way, way too sweet and overtly greasy. I like my grease hidden, thank you.

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Originally posted by Eauz:
My Question to those is, have you experienced anything like this, especially like mine where I have been with them for a while and was a proven loyal employee ? It seems now that everytime I try and suggest something which will make the company more efficient, I'm turned into the evil employee. Bah! I can't stand being screwed over like that.

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You should too.

Some unions who would/could/should work with you on an organizing drive:

Canadian Auto Workers (already representing a few Tim's franchises) 1-800-268-5763 or (416) 497-4110
United Steelworkers (have a few fast food drives under their belts)
United Food and Commercial Workers (doing a great campaign to organize Walmarts right now
Newly merged UNITEHERE two very good organizing unions - now merged - contact 416-510-0887.

Call around. Ignore most of the noise about which union is "the best" (every union has it's partisans) and find out: who will work with you, who will lend the most support, what dues will be owed, what union local will you be a part of, what are they like.

PM me if you want to get in touch with myself or other who've gone through this.

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One I tried and liked recently is in B.C., and they have an ... interesting ... web site:

http://www.saltspringcoffee.com/

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Hey, that's my coffee!

Since Rose's closed and a tourist-joint opened in the same location to catch the ferry run-off, The Roasting Co. is the only gig in town. That or the Fulford Inn Pub.

My gf in highschool worked at a Tim Horton's. and they were terrible to work for. I used to pick her up after work and despite the ridiculous work environment the employees had a lot of fun joking around with "the regulars". The owner was the former coach of the Minesota North Stars. The manager was this greaseball weasel in his late thirties. He got a seventeen year old employee pregnant. The manager did. My gf got fired when the owner, who was spying on his employees from the parking lot, saw her giving a free coffee and bowl of soup to a homeless man.

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Anyways, I thank you for responding and listening to my rant. It is also nice to know that I'm not the only person who has been screwed over (even though I didn't think this seriously) by Tim's.

As for the Union idea, I don't have a desire to join or start one, especially seeing as this is a part-time job with no long term future with the company. I just felt it was idiotic to have treated one of their proven good workers as if I were a new employee. I feel the office guy was not diplomatic at all, which is something I would have expected from him.

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Yeah right... CLEARLY Canadian.....

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After serious consideration by both men and their company boards, a merger was announced between Wendy's and Tim Hortons in 1995. This was a $425-million U.S. deal that left Ron Joyce the biggest shareholder of the third-largest hamburger chain in the United States. It also made Tim Hortons a division of the U.S.-based Wendy's chain. The merger left Tim Hortons a wholly owned subsidiary of Wendy's, although the two do retain separate management.

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Originally posted by Holy Holy Holy:
Yep. When I got sick of crappy wages, arbitrary rule changes and a generally shitty workplace I started a union.

You should too.

Some unions who would/could/should work with you on an organizing drive:

Canadian Auto Workers (already representing a few Tim's franchises) 1-800-268-5763 or (416) 497-4110
United Steelworkers (have a few fast food drives under their belts)
United Food and Commercial Workers (doing a great campaign to organize Walmarts right now
Newly merged UNITEHERE two very good organizing unions - now merged - contact 416-510-0887.

Call around. Ignore most of the noise about which union is "the best" (every union has it's partisans) and find out: who will work with you, who will lend the most support, what dues will be owed, what union local will you be a part of, what are they like.

PM me if you want to get in touch with myself or other who've gone through this.

Don't complain. Organize.

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As for the Union idea, I don't have a desire to join or start one, especially seeing as this is a part-time job with no long term future with the company. I just felt it was idiotic to have treated one of their proven good workers as if I were a new employee. I feel the office guy was not diplomatic at all, which is something I would have expected from him.

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Originally posted by Gir Draxon:
Just one question- what the hell business do the steelworkers' and auto workers' unions have representing Tim Horton's employees??? Food and commerical workers makes a lot more sense, as it is a commercial food establishment we are talking about...

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As for the Union idea, I don't have a desire to join or start one, especially seeing as this is a part-time job with no long term future with the company. I just felt it was idiotic to have treated one of their proven good workers as if I were a new employee. I feel the office guy was not diplomatic at all, which is something I would have expected from him.

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Actually, I would think that would be the best time to try to start a union - when you have nothing to lose, and you don't give a damn whether or not they fire you. Because I would think that if the management even gets the slightest inkling that you're trying to organize - out the door you'll go.

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Originally posted by WingNut:
And as a member of the Green Party I think you should be buying fair trade, organic coffee.

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Well, I do know of a spot to buy some, but I have to take transit there. Bit of a large ecological footprint for a tin of coffee.

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Originally posted by BleedingHeart:
True Canadian coffee is the sludge served at hockey rinks across the land.

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Does anyone one of a place in Toronto that sells fair trade coffee - shipping might be cheaper - or, even betterm sowehre near to Bloor West & Islington?

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Originally posted by BlueGreen:

Well, I do know of a spot to buy some, but I have to take transit there. Bit of a large ecological footprint for a tin of coffee.

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MOONBEAM CAFE
30 St. Andrew.
(416) 595-0327.

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Originally posted by xrcrguy:
The fair trade coffee is actually cheaper than the Timmies, but should I be supporting a shady multi-national oil company? or should I go with the domestic Tim's?

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Originally posted by Gir Draxon:

Don't forget that it also has to be shade grown

For buying fairly traded organic coffee, I highly recommend the Just Us! roasting co-op which is based in Nova Scotia. It's expensive, but damn good coffee and it's nice to know that the company you're supporting is ethical and environmentally friendly. Sadly, their website kinda sucks

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Yippee, I found Just Us at the new Superstore on Joe Howe, just a ten minute walk from my house. Haligonians take note, and check your local Superstore. And I agree, Just Us is more than politically correct, it is excellent coffee.

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Alternative Grounds sells their beans for $6 per half-pound which is comparable to the prices on the Salt Spring website. (I think unleaded might cost a bit more.) Making a pot of coffee every morning, a half-pound bag of beans lasts us about a week. Six bucks a week for coffee is going to be a lot cheaper than picking up a double-double at Tim Horton's everyday, plus it tastes better.

Embarrassing but true, I fell for the indoctrination hook line and sinker. I was uber-employee and got promoted (in retrospect I have to laugh) to Crew-manager in 6 months.

About a year into my tenure I did something stupid. On a day that a regional supervisor was in the store a manager friend of mine busted me for having (gasp) 7 nuggets in my employee meal 6-pack.

Thing is, I always did that and Mike - oh what a pal - he *knew* that, so what the heck? I almost got fired. At the time it was really stressfull.

Turns out that Mike, the manager that burned me, the manager that I used to goof around with after closing, had gotten some pretty heavy criticism earlier in the day from the regional guy...so I was his ritual sacrifice.

Funny thing is that they *should* have fired me that day. The event shattered their well-rehearsed indoctrination...I worked there for another year and a half. I worked hard, I'm an atheist with a Protestant work-ethic, but I criticized the system constantly. With every new employee they stupidly asked me to train I did my best to counter indoctrinate and keep the kids remembering that it was just a crappy highschool job.

I quit in grade 13. They'd promoted me to manager in training

and expected me to come in on a Friday night and help the other managers paint the place for FREE.

The real punchline is that the next summer I got a job as a busboy at a restaurant and on the first day I was making more an hour(with mandatory tips from servers) than I had been after two and a half years at McD's.

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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
Screw Timmies. In Calgary we have the worlds greatest donuts. Krispy Kreme.

Have one and never go back.

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In Calgary we have the worlds greatest donuts. Krispy Kreme.

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Tim Hortons donuts are made out east, flash frozen, tossed into a truck and driven for days to the outlets where they are reconstituted using a deep fryer. Yuk!

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Originally posted by Michelle:
Heh. As opposed to eating Tim Horton's donuts, which are healthy and heart-friendly.

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"The Tim Hortons donut has half as much fat, total fat, as the Kripsy Kreme. It also has less saturated fat and trans fat. However, the Krispy Kreme has more monounsaturated fat."

In layman speak: saturated fats are considered as bad. Trans fats are really bad. The monounsaturated fat is the good fat.

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I couldn't find a link for that, but it was that Canadian science show with the guy with the grey hair and beard.

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Krispy Kreme also gives out free donuts when you are in line and when the drive through is running slow. If the drive through is really slow, they give you a coupon for a dozen donuts. Their coffee is pretty good and you can get a real cappuccino or latte.

The store-cooked Timmies were almost as good. The frozen crap they have now isn't worth anything.

I was in the elevator with a box of KK's a few weeks ago and two VERY beautiful women got in with two trays of Timmies coffee. One looked at me and remarked that if the elevator broke we would be fine, what with the coffee and donuts and all.

Stupid me didn't know where the damn stop button was. Next time though...

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c-c-c-c-come on

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I caught a part of a T.V. news clip on the weekend about Krispy Kreme being in some serious financial troubles; blamed on the "low-carb" phenomena.

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Krispy Kreme donuts deflate when you bite into them.

That is all.

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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
You bite into a Krispy Kreme Glazed Original straight from the production line, still hot from cooking, and it's a little bit of heaven.

Krispy Kreme also gives out free donuts when you are in line and when the drive through is running slow. If the drive through is really slow, they give you a coupon for a dozen donuts. Their coffee is pretty good and you can get a real cappuccino or latte.

The store-cooked Timmies were almost as good. The frozen crap they have now isn't worth anything.

I was in the elevator with a box of KK's a few weeks ago and two VERY beautiful women got in with two trays of Timmies coffee. One looked at me and remarked that if the elevator broke we would be fine, what with the coffee and donuts and all. And was usual Heywood, just nodds and stares.

Stupid me didn't know where the damn stop button was. Next time though... get there names and phone number.

"Dear Playboy. I never thought I'd be writing a letter like this but......."

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Originally posted by britchestoobig:
When I was 16 (half a lifetime ago yikes!) I started working at McDonalds.

Embarrassing but true, I fell for the indoctrination hook line and sinker. I was uber-employee and got promoted (in retrospect I have to laugh) to Crew-manager in 6 months.

About a year into my tenure I did something stupid. On a day that a regional supervisor was in the store a manager friend of mine busted me for having (gasp) 7 nuggets in my employee meal 6-pack.

Thing is, I always did that and Mike - oh what a pal - he *knew* that, so what the heck? I almost got fired. At the time it was really stressfull.

Turns out that Mike, the manager that burned me, the manager that I used to goof around with after closing, had gotten some pretty heavy criticism earlier in the day from the regional guy...so I was his ritual sacrifice.

Funny thing is that they *should* have fired me that day. The event shattered their well-rehearsed indoctrination...I worked there for another year and a half. I worked hard, I'm an atheist with a Protestant work-ethic, but I criticized the system constantly. With every new employee they stupidly asked me to train I did my best to counter indoctrinate and keep the kids remembering that it was just a crappy highschool job.

I quit in grade 13. They'd promoted me to manager in training

and expected me to come in on a Friday night and help the other managers paint the place for FREE.

The real punchline is that the next summer I got a job as a busboy at a restaurant and on the first day I was making more an hour(with mandatory tips from servers) than I had been after two and a half years at McD's.

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One of my first jobs was when I was 17.
I worked the Night Shift at A Grocery Wharehouse It was Unionized, unloading semi - trucks, stocking/cleaning the aisles and putting the product in it's right place. My shift was 12 AM -8 AM I liked the "Graveyard" shift cause it was easier, nobody on your case (sometimes) and
a lot quieter. I specified that I wanted Fri, Sat, Sun (Won't interfere with School) so It was Part - time. My Supervisor specified that after 3 months or certain # of hours (Whichver comes first) You are elegible to be accepted into the union. So I was doing alright, working really hard. getting lots of encouragement from co - workers. Making okay money trying to save for a car.
Then One week before the date to be accepted into the union, my supervisor called me upstairs and said "Sorry Keith you're a real good worker, but We will have to let you go". I tried to question him why. He wouldn't anwser to the real reason, and I was devestated. I thought it was something I did.

A friend of mine got on the same place and suffered the same fate as I did.

well something wasn't right. I saw my supervisor and about 1/2 year later as I was shopping with my dad. My dad asked him in a firm voice what was the real reason. He said they cut the workers off before the due date so they don't have to pay the employees benifits and it cuts labour costs.
They even fired loyal employees who've been there 10 years and there jobs replaced by other people who start right at minimum wage.

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There's a winning attitude 'eh! Life sucks, and you can never do anything about any of it.

Contradictory too. Being "a man" appears to mean accepting whatever people in authority throw at you?

I agree with the advice about 'looking elsewhere' and leaving Tim's on good terms. If a supervisor or manager is an a$$hole don't let them control your own emotion. The best feeling is to politiely turn in your hat at the end of a shift and say 'bye bye'.

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Originally posted by BlueGreen:
Does anyone one of a place in Toronto that sells fair trade coffee - shipping might be cheaper - or, even betterm sowehre near to Bloor West & Islington?

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I know that Ten Thousand Villages sells fair trade coffee and there are four stores in Toronto. The addresses of their stores are on the website.

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I like their Peruvian coffee. Sweet and mild (more caffiene).

They carry 10 different flavors for $14.99/pound or $7.99/half pound.

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