babble home
rabble.ca - news for the rest of us
today's active topics


Post New Topic  Post A Reply
FAQ | Forum Home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» babble   » walking the talk   » labour and consumption   » Ageism against Small Claims Judge ???

Email this thread to someone!    
Author Topic: Ageism against Small Claims Judge ???
James
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 5341

posted 11 August 2005 01:33 PM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In reading this decision, released Monday, I find myself wondering why, it would seem that the Human Rights Code was not argued, nor applied.

quote:
Dear Deputy Judge Rai

I understand you have been asking for more time allocated to you for sitting as a deputy judge.

Mr. Justice Lalonde and I are conscious of the need to ensure continuity in the services offered to Small Claims Court litigants, and therefore are consciously enabling the scheduling lawyers who will be with us for a lengthy period of time, to develop experience as deputy judges.

We are aware that you will be 75 in June, and thus ending your term of service according to the same protocol as for Superior Court judges.

This will be confirmed to you later and our formal thanks will be expressed at that time.

Yours truly

Monique Métivier

Regional Senior Justice



Now, admittedly, the position is "at pleasure", so if no reason for the non-renewal had been given, the decision of Mme. Justice Metivier would be unassailable. But when a gratuitiously provided reason, and seemingly the only reason flies in the face of a specificly prohibitted ground of discrimination in employment, the wonk in me wonders.

Mind you, I have absolutely no knowledge of Deputy Judge Rai's competence and I have very often been left shaking my head and/or my fist (out of sight of course ) at the apparent lack of capacity of some of the oldfarts that sit as Dep. S.C.C. Judges here. (Not that most of them are anything short of brilliant ) So, I have no opinion on the merits, but I really do wonder at a Judge using age as a basis of discrimination in the context of filling an administrative role for the Provinince.

O.K. I'm now recalling/seeing that the Ontario Human Rights Code defines "age" as between 18 - 65. But I'm also recalling that there have been cases where that definition itself has been attacked on Charter grounds, and was held to be a s. 1 "reasonable limit prescribed by law" in the context of employment and retirement. I think that was a U. of Guelph professor professor objecting to manadatory retirement at 65, but that's just memory.

Likely the Div. Court Justices here are legally right in declining judicial review, but somehow it doesn't seem ok that age can be given as the only reason to not renew an appointment.


From: Windsor; ON | Registered: Mar 2004  |  IP: Logged
jeff house
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 518

posted 11 August 2005 02:56 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Human Rights Code protects people from age-based decisions between the ages of 18 and 65.

In other words, a four year old can be excluded from a tavern, without any suggestion that his human rights have been impugned.

Similarly, people over the age of 65 have no protection from age-based decisions.

Other courts have age limits written right into their statutes. The Supreme Court has, and I believe a number of Provincial Courts of Appeal do, too.

People do get old, and I think they can fairly be forced into retirement at age 75.


From: toronto | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Michelle
Moderator
Babbler # 560

posted 11 August 2005 04:57 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Curious - if the human rights code covers people from 18-65, then how can discriminatory drinking laws (19 in Ontario) be upheld? Is it just that no one has challenged them yet?
From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
jeff house
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 518

posted 11 August 2005 05:49 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes.
From: toronto | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Michelle
Moderator
Babbler # 560

posted 11 August 2005 07:46 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder why. Do they just not fine people for drinking underage anymore?

I remember in high school some of us used to call it "joining the fifty-two-fifty club" if someone got fined for drinking underage (that was the amount of the fine then).

But I don't remember whether I've ever known anyone who got fined for it at 18 years old though. I guess in order to challenge the law, some 18 year-old actually has to be charged with the offense and appeal it, is that right?


From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged

All times are Pacific Time  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | rabble.ca | Policy Statement

Copyright 2001-2008 rabble.ca