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West Coast Greeny
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posted 07 November 2006 10:53 AM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well, there's no thread at the moment specifically on the US midterm elections, although plenty on candidates, scandals, etc...

So this thread I suppose can be for the predictions, voting irregularities, media coverage and results.

Now, in the irregularities dept. there isn't, at the moment any huge problems, at least not being reported in the media. Minor problems reported at some precincts.

So, all things being equal, I say the Dems take the house with about a 10 seat advantage, but fall short in the senate races 48D-50R-2I.


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posted 07 November 2006 11:07 AM      Profile for Aristotleded24   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Reminding any resident Americans who have not yet voted to ask for a paper ballot when they reach their polling stations.
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posted 07 November 2006 11:17 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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voting irregularities

Voting irregularities??

You jest of course. Not in the worlds oldest and greatest democracy, the land of the free, the home of the brave, the worlds largest exporter of democracy, (well, maybe next to depleted uranium) etc. etc...

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Someone posted in a thread within the last year a list of flaws in the USian voting system which included among many other shockers that the owners and developers of most of the voting machinery were large companies with strong republican ties. Also, there are no permanent paper records. (trust us, we're Americans )

If someone with more time on their hands than I coud find the link to that, it would be a worthwhile contribution.


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Michelle
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posted 07 November 2006 11:22 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I was going to start a thread all day on this and kept forgetting. Thanks, WCG.

Yeah, I was just writing to an American friend today that the more I see of Bushco, the more I'm convinced that they'll either win fairly, or win by rigging the voting machines.

Pretty scary to think there's no paper trail in some states.


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posted 07 November 2006 11:37 AM      Profile for John K        Edit/Delete Post
Predictions time!

Senate:
Repubs 50
Dems 49
Ind 1 (Lieberman, yech!)

House:
Dems 224
Repubs 211


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posted 07 November 2006 11:49 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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VOTER PROTECTION -- NEW HAMPSHIRE STOPS SOME RIGHT WING HARASSING ROBO-CALLS: The National Republican Congressional Committee "agreed to stop making automated phone calls to New Hampshire residents on the federal do-not-call list" on Sunday after annoyed citizens complained to the state attorney general. Like right wing harassing calls in other states, the scheme involves making "repeated robo-calls to households late in the evening or early in the morning," when voters will be "sleeping and most annoyed by the calls." The automated calls in New Hampshire lead voters to believe the call is coming from Democratic challenger Paul Hodes, but ends by saying the call was paid for by the NRCC after most voters will have already hung up. Under New Hampshire law, "political campaigns can contact people on the do-not-call list, but cannot use automated recordings." The calls have "infuriated countless voters and triggered sharp complaints" from voters who say that "the Republican Party has crossed the line in bombarding households with recorded attacks on candidates." A spokesman for Hodes said the calls also violate "a Federal Communications Commission rule that says automated calls must identify their source at the beginning of the message." An NRCC spokesman claims the group did not break the law, and the FCC did not comment despite receiving complaints. The NRCC is using "robo-calls" in at least 53 competitive House races nationwide.


from the Center for American Progress.

Now this is a nasty assed trick!


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remind
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posted 07 November 2006 12:33 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
CBC NOON news reports that voting machines are not working in key areas such as: Colorado, Tennessee with the head electoral officers asking for extended voting hours. The Govenor of Maryland has told residents to use the paper ballots as it is their right to do so!
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posted 07 November 2006 01:23 PM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
yahoo is the mail client I use... So I get to see their headlines. Thi one had me laughing... What these elections mean to Canadians!

wait.. prep yourself for this one... Our genious ambassador had this to say:

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MONTREAL (CP) - Even a Democratic sweep of Tuesday's mid-term elections won't undermine Canada's strong relationship with the United States, says U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins.

I'd like to thank the kind Ambassador for putting to rest my fears of what may happen if the Democrats sweep the mid-terms... I was starting to fear what them Democrats would do to us. NOW WHAT THE *%&%* IS HE GOING TO DO TO EASE OUR FEAR OF A REPUBLICAN SWEEP?!?!

What a backassward comment from him ^^

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wiki on wilkins:

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On April 4, 2005, CBC News reported that he would be chosen as the new U.S. ambassador to Canada, replacing Paul Cellucci. President Bush officially nominated him for the post on April 27, and he formally became U.S. Ambassador to Canada on June 29 when he presented his credentials to Governor General Adrienne Clarkson. The Associated Press reported that before his appointment, Wilkins had only been to Canada once, while he was in the U.S. Army Reserve three decades prior.

I find it quite interesting he felt it nessacary to calm our fears of a democrat sweep ^^

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Michelle
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posted 07 November 2006 01:35 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What a dickwad.

Oh, I'm an idiot. I didn't notice the name and thought you meant the Canadian Ambassador to the US.

Never mind. He's still a jerk, but my original comment doesn't make sense.

[ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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Kevin_Laddle
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posted 07 November 2006 01:39 PM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
The MSM is reporting massive voting fraud, intimidation, and threats going on at polling booths. Seems to rethugnicans are setting loose the dogs of war this go around.
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Michelle
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posted 07 November 2006 01:43 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Any examples?
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Noise
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heh, included an edit in the first post for you michelle. Apparently (as per the article) this is the first time in years he's watched as an ambassador and not a republican candidate.

As for voter fraud... The reports are varying:
Yahoo

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In one elementary school in the predominantly black district of East Cleveland, Ohio, all 12 machines went down when voting opened at 6:30 am (1130 GMT), according to an AFP correspondent at the scene.


The machines were not started up until two hours later and poll officials refused to hand out paper ballots until a lawyer for the watchdog group Election Protection showed up.


"The machines weren't working and they were just turning people away," said the attorney, Fred Livingstone. "They are not allowed to do that."


CBC has it as a 'debacle'

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By mid-afternoon, officials in at least three jurisdictions — Denver, Colo., Muncie, Ind., and Davidson County, Tenn. — were asking federal judges for extended voting hours because, they said, voting machines in their areas have not functioned and they cannot handle the numbers of voters at the polls without more time.

Seventy-five precincts in Indiana — considered a bellwether state — failed to open on schedule because machines malfunctioned. In Cleveland, where there were problems with new machines in September's party primaries, things seemed no better.

"Again the same problem," Champ said. "Machines and machine supervisors unable to get the operations underway. Voters piling up in the doorways."


On CNN it's not quite worth the headline, but this quote is there:

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Another controversy facing some states were technical glitches and other voting problems. The possibility of controversial election returns had already reared itself in Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, New Jersey, New York and Ohio as of Tuesday afternoon.

(Kinda sad... Article topping the CNN above voting issues: Britney Spears is getting divorced | Sex tape lawsuit)


BBC isn't running it as a headline either, but a huge chunk of an article has this in it:


quote:
Glitches delayed voting in dozens of precincts in Indiana and Ohio.

Officials extended polling hours in Delaware County, Indiana, and in Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, after voting was held up by computer problems.

There were reports that districts in Tennessee and Colorado were also seeking to keep polling stations open longer.

Problems were also reported in Illinois, Florida, New Jersey, Virginia and Maryland, although experts said many of the difficulties were minor.



And thats most of my articles not beyond firewalls ^^

Oh, BBC has a bit done up on the why behind american mid-term elections for anyone not up to speed. Done in the format so a Brit can understand the american system, so it should work quite well for us.


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posted 07 November 2006 02:27 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Get ready for the glitches

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New Voter ID Rules: About a dozen states have enacted stricter voter ID laws in the last few years, and these laws usually require voters to produce a photo ID before obtaining a ballot. Since not every potential voter has a photo ID, many of these measures have been contested in state and federal courts by plaintiffs charging the state's with voter suppression, and several have been modified even in the last week. Ohio, for example, was forced by court ruling just last Wednesday to loosen its new ID requirements. A similar walk-back occurred in Georgia, where voters can now produce one of 17 different forms of ID or swear an affidavit of identity — far easier than producing a photo ID. Other states haven't backed down on their new rules. Check your Secretary of State's website if you aren't sure what to bring. But be prepared for challenges.

And the US wonders why there is such a low turnout for their elections. It's a wonder that it's as high as it is, considering that you have to jump through hoops just to get registered.

For babble Yanks: here in Canada it's so much easier. You just go to the polling station with your election card, which you receive in the mail. If you didn't get one and didn't have a chance to get to an Elections Canada outlet, you can be sworn in right then and there, with proof that you live at the address (either ID or a utility bill) and then you can vote.

Yes, I know, that might increase the chances of people who are ineligible to vote getting through. But honestly - I would rather see the occasional motivated non-citizen resident of Canada get an illegal vote in, than to see many residents of Canada not be able to vote on election day.


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Michelle
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posted 07 November 2006 04:11 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
So I'm watching CNN coverage of the midterms, and the two hosts are wearing red. Paula Zahn is wearing a black sweater and bright red skirt, and the guy next to her (sorry, don't watch CNN enough to recognize him) is wearing a red tie and a black suit.

Maybe I'm being oversensitive, but it seems to me that this is a pretty blatant partisan statement, especially since they're showing all sorts of pie graphs and charts with bright red and blue portions for Republicans and Democrats.

I mean, heck, we know that CNN is part of the Republican machine, but you'd think they'd at least make a pretence of balance.


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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 04:15 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well, I prefer the old adage about red and black being good TV colours but who knows?

We'll I voted about an hour ago. I asked for a paper ballot and slid it into a machine with "Diebold" written on it. I feel so warm inside. But still I didn't do the touch voting.

Early returns show no surprises so far. But precincts in my old stomping grounds in Cleveland have already been ordered by a judge to remain open because of problems with electronic voting. There may be a lot of that tonight from what I'm hearing.


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Michelle
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posted 07 November 2006 04:17 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Hey Keith. How goes it? We should be in a bar drinking and watching the returns right about now!

Seriously though - I thought maybe it was just a coincidence about the red, but you'd think they'd have thought about that.

At least Wolf Blitzer is wearing a grey tie.


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Doug
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posted 07 November 2006 04:30 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Unsurprisingly, but pleasingly, America's first socialist senator has been projected to win in Vermont! Yay Bernie!
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posted 07 November 2006 04:31 PM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
The senate is the big thing here. Chimperor Disgustus is almost definatley going to get the chance to appoint another supreme court judge (considering the advanced ages of the current members of the SCOTUS). If the senate stays rethugnican, they will just rubber stamp the next reactionary wingnut Chimperor wants to send to the bench. If this happens, American women can kiss their reproductive freedoms goodbye.
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when the Dems take control of the House and have Nancy as the Speaker. What will be different? the committee chairpeople will be 20 plus year veterans of the House. The same big military contracts will be ordered and filled.

Will the foreign policy resolutions be that different? really no the resolutions will basicaly say the samething because the leadership will be the same.

Will their be a big swing? Will the US House of Reps suddenly become pro-Palestinian? The answer is no.

What about the Senate. What will be different in the Senate?

Nothing. Same resolutions with a different signature because of a possible change in Majority.

So really does it matter?

Virginia may elect the Dem for Senate but early results show a majority of registered dems in Virginia are against same sex marriage ballot initiative

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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 04:59 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Miles, stop reading my rabble columns and have a little hope, at least for one night. Its a luxury, I know, but I just can't help myself, not tonight.

Call me an eternal romantic optimist.

Good news for this expat Ohioan - GOOOODDDBYYYYEEE BOB TAFT!!!! A Democrat in the governor's seat.


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quote:
Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:

Good news for this expat Ohioan - GOOOODDDBYYYYEEE BOB TAFT!!!! A Democrat in the governor's seat.

AE i actually have not read your column yet sorry.

Taft goes from mansion to big house


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WHOOO HOO Jim Webb pulls in front with 25 percent in Virginia. (fingers very tightly crossed here).
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miles
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and in other news Robert Byrd is returned to the Senate so he can challenge the record of service in 3 centuries

Ted Kennedy also re-elected


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I was about to ask whether there was a stream going on about the midterm elections. Anything about the amount of voters? Michelle I heard that bars are closed on election day. Is this true AE? You'd think that after six years of George W Bush they'd allow you some Anheuser-Busch or some other such consumation.

AE, all the best! Whereabouts in Ohio I spent some time in Oberlin myself.


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posted 07 November 2006 05:14 PM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by mayakovsky:
I heard that bars are closed on election day.

Probably a good thing... Additionaly alcohol will only make a population more aggressive, violent, and irrational... Prime characteristics to draw in Rethugnican voters.


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quote:
Originally posted by Kevin_Laddle:

Probably a good thing... Additionaly alcohol will only make a population more aggressive, violent, and irrational... Prime characteristics to draw in Rethugnican voters.


Or a Kennedy


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quote:
Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:
WHOOO HOO Jim Webb pulls in front with 25 percent in Virginia. (fingers very tightly crossed here).

What website are you getting your live results from? CNN leaves a lot to be desired.


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posted 07 November 2006 05:27 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Hooray! Pennsylvania has successfully cleaned the Santorum off itself.
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Originally posted by Doug:
Hooray! Pennsylvania has successfully cleaned the Santorum off itself.

Doug have they called the race with polls still open in parts of PA?


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They can do that in the States, you know.

It's a projection, of course, based on results so far plus the exit polls.


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Even if the Dems get the House, the Repubs will probably keep the Senate, which will let them tie up any legislation in committee or block it altogether. Mind, a deadlocked legislative branch might not be a bad idea what with all the civil liberties Repubs seem to think USians don't need anymore.

The good part - Bernie Sanders is taking Jim Jeffords' seat

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Amazingly, with 25% of precincts reporting, Mark Foley in Florida 16 is LEADING his Democratic challenger by 50%-47%.

In order to be defeated in his district, maybe he really had to murder congressional pages and bugger their lifeless corpses in public while lighting a crack pipe with a burning US flag.

WTF???!!!

CNN House races page.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug:
Hooray! Pennsylvania has successfully cleaned the Santorum off itself.

And it gets yet more amusing - he's going to file suit against the results based on problems with the electronic voting machines - though I hardly see how that's going to help his results, he's losing by a lot.


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quote:
Originally posted by Doug:
They can do that in the States, you know.

It's a projection, of course, based on results so far plus the exit polls.


Yes I am all too aware of exit polls. for example their was this little election a couple of years ago when a bunch of us planned the Kerry Cabinet etc based upon exit polls

I will wait for the official before i jump up and sing "ding dong the wicked bastard is gone!!!!"


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Hey there Maya!

Grew up in Chardon which is 30 miles to the east of Cleveland - the capitol of the snow belt. Did you go to Oberlin College?

And unlike Ontario in 1984 where I couldn't drink until Mulroney won, there are no blue laws that I know of on election day in the states. A few southern locales or Utah may have them here and there but no problem on that.

Menendez (D) holds New Jersey.

BTW on the Foley thing - it was too late to change the name to the fill in candidate. Still pretty sick, like Bob Corker winning in Tennessee.

Doesn't look real promising for the Dems in the Senate but the House looks good at this point.

quote:
Originally posted by mayakovsky:
I was about to ask whether there was a stream going on about the midterm elections. Anything about the amount of voters? Michelle I heard that bars are closed on election day. Is this true AE? You'd think that after six years of George W Bush they'd allow you some Anheuser-Busch or some other such consumation.

AE, all the best! Whereabouts in Ohio I spent some time in Oberlin myself.



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Hey just answered the door - a nice young lady from the local Democrats wanted to make sure I had the chance to vote today. How nice (seriously) to see the Democrats GOTV working big time here in Iowa.

I'm positively getting warm fuzzies.


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quote:
Originally posted by miles:
Yes I am all too aware of exit polls. for example their was this little election a couple of years ago when a bunch of us planned the Kerry Cabinet etc based upon exit polls

I just heard this tonight on CNN as well. One of the commentators was saying something about how all the pundits were planning the Kerry cabinet, and "we were all wrong".

And I kept thinking, yeah, unless you weren't wrong. Gee, all indications including the exit polls were for a Democratic win, but goshdarnit, those polling machines (many of which don't bother with that pesky little paper voting record thing) spit out a Republican win.

But gosh, I'm sure it was just that "we were all wrong".


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(ME DANCING IN THE BASEMENT)

Bye Bye Mike DeWine - the new SENATOR FROM OHIO SHERROD BROWN (D)!!!!!!

Ohio I like you again. Smooch!

And they're calling him a POPULIST on CNN.

Ooooh. Too much good news. Waiting for the yin to the yang here but so far, I like.


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I think the USian blogosphere is better than the traditional media, because they can pull things in from various sources. TPM Cafe is good, same with The Huffington Post, My DD, and Daily Kos not to mention many others that I'm probably missing out on.
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WHOOO HOO Jim Webb pulls in front with 25 percent in Virginia. (fingers very tightly crossed here).

I dunno about that guy. They just mentioned on CNN that Webb was a Republican right till the Iraq war. He was in Reagan's cabinet.

He constantly mentions that his son is in Iraq.

Not that I think that all Dem veterans are warmongers, but this guy seems like another John McCain.


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posted 07 November 2006 05:59 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Which is more important to win - the Senate or the House?
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posted 07 November 2006 05:59 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
No argument but the Dems need him as a warm body with a D next to his name in the Senate.

Polls I have just read show Webb should be winning in Virginia.

Looks like Ford is toast in Tennessee as I thought he would be. The bubbas came out for Corker after that ad all the polls in this race changed and I don't care what any of the suits on CNN say - race baiting turned the tide in Tenn.

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Originally posted by BetterRed:

I dunno about that guy. They just mentioned on CNN that Webb was a Republican right till the Iraq war. He was in Reagan's cabinet.

He constantly mentions that his son is in Iraq.

Not that I think that all Dem veterans are warmongers, but this guy seems like another John McCain.


Michelle - the Senate is the more powerful body when in comes to advise and consent.

Casey now gets the nod in Pa so Santorum is toast - no big surprise here but its nice to see.

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AE, just an alert: I have sent Keith an email -- not a babble private message but a regular email.
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I wouldn't say Ford is done yet, there doesn't seem to be any results from Nashville (Davidson County) or Memphis (Shelby County), two of his strongholds. Considering the results that are in, he's still surprisingly competitive. And the exit polls show that it could be very close. I wouldn't bet on Ford taking that seat, especially since lots of people will say that they'll vote for a black candidate, and then not, but I'm not prepared to write him off until those two counties start pouring in some results.
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Allen
(Incumbent)
743,223 50% 67% of precincts reporting votes by county voter survey results
Webb
733,541


um Webb is behind?


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quote:
Originally posted by Sharon:
AE, just an alert: I have sent Keith an email -- not a babble private message but a regular email.

Sharon seen and replied. And thanks!

Webb had it down to 6,000 votes but now its 9,000 again for Allen (and now down to 4,000) fingers in pain from being crossed so tight. We only have one senate seat to give and it looks like Tenn. WE NEED VIRGINIA!


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Oh yes, my predictions:
House: 225 Dems (too optimistic)
210 repubs

Senate: 48 Dems+Lieberman+Sanders
50 repubs

Senate pickups:
Dems: Ohio, Pennsylvania(duh), Rhode I, Missouri


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ah Fuck Liberman.
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Lieberman has been announced the projected winner by CNN. That sucks. I'd almost rather see the Republican win than him. At least the Republican would be honest about being a Republican. (Well, of course I'd have rather seen Lamont win, but you know what I mean.)
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Joe Lieberman is re-elected. He may end up being the most powerful politician in Washington if the Dems get within 1 seat in Senate
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He's a DINO. Lieberman is a Republican win. He'll have just as much "power" as any other Republican that gets elected.
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It just goes to show that most americans are still idiots.
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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
He's a DINO. Lieberman is a Republican win. He'll have just as much "power" as any other Republican that gets elected.

Did you see how many Republicans voted for Lieberman - they were clearly his margin of victory according to CNNs numbers. He makes me sick.

Cardin projected winner in Maryland - not a big surprise but still one in the W column.


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Allen keeps pulling ahead of Webb and it looks like Fairfax County is pretty well in. It doesn't look good for Webb. Even worse for Ford as Corker's lead seems to be fattening as well.

Whitehouse wins in RI. They're winning what they were projected to win but. . .

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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
He's a DINO. Lieberman is a Republican win. He'll have just as much "power" as any other Republican that gets elected.

Michelle it could be Joe Lieberman who decides if the Dems control the Senate or the Repubs.

I am not so sure that Lieberman will be a repub. rather i think he will be the king maker and make the Dems the majority in the Senate.


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Really? It's 51-48 for the GOPers in Tennessee.
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quote:
Originally posted by miles:

Michelle it could be Joe Lieberman who decides if the Dems control the Senate or the Repubs.

I am not so sure that Lieberman will be a repub. rather i think he will be the king maker and make the Dems the majority in the Senate.


Lieberman swears he'll caucus with the Dems no matter what the GOP offers him.

Good news - Ford has made a major move on Corker:


Republican Corker
430,446 51% 27% of precincts reporting

Democratic Ford, Jr.
412,968 48%


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Lamont may not be dead yet:

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CT for Lieberman Lieberman
(Incumbent)
32,238 45%

Democratic Lamont
33,166 46%

Republican Schlesinger
6,012 8%

Green Ferrucci
419 1%

Concerned Citizens Knibbs
308 0%


CNN as of now


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Whoa, whoa. Seriously? I'm watching CNN and didn't notice that! That would be amazing.

But I just heard a pundit right now talk about how Lieberman won (without being contradicted).

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I just got an email from a friend at Yale. local press is reporting Lieberman as the winner.
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Yeah, it seems that way on CNN too. Unfortunately. I really dislike Lieberman - I was looking forward to dancing on his political grave.
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I'm looking at the CNN website, I'm watching Dog the bountie hunter right now. Since that's more interesting than watching CNN the TV channel.

Oh, Lieberman is ahead by two points again.

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Ha!

BTW, does anyone in the Toronto area know which channel (on Rogers cable) Fox News is on? Do we get Fox News? According to some folks on Daily KOS, they're sputtering a bit and I'd like to engage in a bit of schadenfreude by watching it.


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quote:
Originally posted by babblerwannabe:
It just goes to show that most americans are still idiots.

I won't go quite that far, even though it's tempting. I didn't expect the actual results to move as much as the polling had in the first place, because of a well-known, repeated observation. Public opinion may generally think that Congress is doing a rotten job, but they are much more positive about their own representative...and that's who they ultimately have to vote for.


Oh - and another amusing observation. Won't Democrats in Virginia just want to *murder* their local Green Party if they lose?

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The Deom is not going to control the Senate.....
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Holy fuck!! Ford and Lamont are both leading! The Dems are gonna take the senate!!!

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Rhode Island is interesting. According to CNN, the majority of the voters liked the Republican incumbent because he voted against Iraq. But since he was in the wrong party, they voted overwhelmingly for the Democratic challenger.

Well, too bad, really. I mean, if you're going to be a RINO, you might as well go all the way and become a Democrat, or pay the price.


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quote:
Originally posted by babblerwannabe:
It just goes to show that most americans are still idiots.

Is that a helpful statement? I disagree with Lieberman on . . . well, everything. But I think that there is more to Lieberman's popularity than the mental acumen or lack thereof of Americans.


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I just had an evil thought about Virginia.

The FBI is investigating deceptive phone calls in Virginia. Since they were going into black neighbourhoods what are the odds that there was an FBI wiretap or at least a phone number trace on one of the phones called? A boomerang effect of racial profiling.

Except, of course, it wouldn't be admissible.

As I said, it was an evil thought. I did get a chuckle out of the possibility, though.


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quote:
Originally posted by Kevin_Laddle:
Holy fuck!! Ford and Lamont are both leading! The Dems are gonna take the senate!!!

[ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Kevin_Laddle ]


No, they're not.

And at this point, I'd have to call for Allen in Virginia and Corker in Tennessee. A race baiting ad in Tennessee and the "Macaca" comment in Virginia notwithstanding. Its a sad commentary in my view. But the South is still the South.

And McCaskill isn't off to a flying start in Missouri either. I think trying to sweep three southern states (and I consider Missouri primarily Southern) was overly optimistic, even in the present climate.


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quote:
Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:

No, they're not.

And at this point, I'd have to call for Allen in Virginia and Corker in Tennessee. A race baiting ad in Tennessee and the "Macaca" comment in Virginia notwithstanding. Its a sad commentary in my view. But the South is still the South.

And McCaskill isn't off to a flying start in Missouri either. I think trying to sweep three southern states (and I consider Missouri primarily Southern) was overly optimistic, even in the present climate.


AE, what is your source? The NY Times has Lamont leading 47% to 44% right now...


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If anything, the race-baiting ad probably helped in Tennessee.
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CNN at this moment:


CT for Lieberman Lieberman
(Incumbent)
62,585 46% 14% of precincts reporting
Democratic Lamont
57,697 43%

Republican Schlesinger
12,901 10%

Green Ferrucci
786 1%
Full CT
Concerned Citizens Knibbs
540 0%


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I think AE is watching CNN, like I am.
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AE I think your being too negative, if anything don't watch TV at the same time, as the results are coming in.

For instance, most of the results in Missouri are discouraging but A) the exit polls look good for the Dems there, and B) most of the results are from conservative rural areas, there aren't any from Kansas City yet, and only a bit from St.Louis.


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I can't see how Webb can overcome this:
CNN:


Virginia Senate
Updated: 9:56 p.m. ET

Republican Allen
(Incumbent)
945,999 50% 84% of precincts

Democratic Webb
917,201 49%
Full VA
Independent Grassroots Parker
20,788 1%


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AH FUCK!!!! Looks like fucktard bigot George Allen is going to take Virginia...

VA SEN [90.14% IN]
ALLEN 1,025,262 50.05%
WEBB 998,701 48.75


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Folks these are up-to-the-second internet results not the tv.

Ford is losing handily now.

Tennessee Senate
Updated: 10:00 p.m. ET

Republican Corker
584,253 52% 46% of precincts reporting

Democratic Ford, Jr.
537,927 47%

Independent Choate
6,264 1%

Independent Gatchell
2,168 0%

Independent Heyward
2,032 0%

Independent Keplinger
1,813 0%
Full TN
Independent Lugo
1,433 0%


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AE, what happens in a close race if they actually bust somebody for suppressing the vote?
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The answer is - they don't get busted. Everyone knows it, but nothing happens.

Anyone remember watching Al Gore wimp out? Remember watching him brush aside all the Black people who came forward to complain about the way they were systematically stopped from voting in Florida?

The answer is: nothing happens. The Republicans win and the Democrats wimp out because Democrats are wimps.

BTW, Lamont just conceded - CNN just had his speech.


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I remember Florida. The difference here is that the cops are looking at it now. They never did anywhere last time AFAIK.

I'm not really hopeful, but I would like to hae a clue about the official rules.


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I would guess that some people might go to jail, but they wouldn't change the (albeit) tainted election results. We just don't go there in this country.
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Projected Senate: 47 Democrats 51 Republicans 2 Independents

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Projected House: 236 Democrats 194 Republicans 5 Ties


From electoral-vote.com


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Figures.

I have CNN and ABC up. CNN has the House at 128 117 but ABC has it at 157 155. Any clues about what they are seeing?


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Heh. Okay, I'll give this to Joe Lieberman - his opening line in the victory speech was funny.

"I'm Joe Lieberman, and I approve this election."


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Webb and Ford are both going to lose.
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quote:
Originally posted by babblerwannabe:
Webb and Ford are both going to lose.

And McCaskill is looking like a loss as well in Missouri. Again, three Southern states - maybe we were hoping for too much from the South.


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Ok the night is over. The Republican will continue to control the Senate and the Dem wins the House.
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quote:
Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:

And McCaskill is looking like a loss as well in Missouri. Again, three Southern states - maybe we were hoping for too much from the South.


Weren't these candidates all rightwing religious right types anyway?


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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Palmerston:

Weren't these candidates all rightwing religious right types anyway?


For the most part yes. Ford's constant invocation of God was downright irritating after awhile. It started to sound like it was purely for public consumption. And Webb was no one's progressive to be sure. But McCaskill did support stem cell research.


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CNN gives the House to the Democrats.

Say it. Say it!! Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

OK, we'll take it.


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Webb shouldn't be written off in Virginia just yet. Some of his best precincts in major urban centres (especially in the DC area) have yet to report. It's going to be a nail biter.
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R George ALLEN 1,105,901 50

D Jim WEBB 1,093,471 49

the gap is closing. OH MY GOD.


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quote:
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R George ALLEN 1,105,901 50

D Jim WEBB 1,093,471 49

the gap is closing. OH MY GOD.


I just noticed that too. But is it too late?


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R George ALLEN 1,111,028 50

D Jim WEBB 1,098,690 49

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he could win he could win!!!
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R George ALLEN 1,111,589 50

D Jim WEBB 1,100,333 49

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Hold the anxiety dude....
there's a better candidate to cheer for:

The results from Montana show DemocratJon Tester with 54%

While that dumbshit Senator Conrad Burns"9/11 happened because of Canada" is down with 45%.


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Hey this is fun.

Based on county by county results, it may be to early to write McCaskill off in Missouri as well. Many of the big urban precincts near St. Louis and Kansas City have either not reported, or reported only a small percentage of their votes.

CNN has this neat county by county feature.


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Hello everyone.

The dems need to find 2 senate seats, somehow, to pick up control of the senate. So the Allan-Webb race wont really change anything. (Besides, electoral vote is calling VA slight Dem at the moment 48-47)

Not that I don't want to see Allan get thrown on his ass.

Now I just want to see him win the Republican primary.


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Oh, and Mark Foley did indeed lose.... barely. I think he set the benchmark for the allowable amount of misconduct allowed by a congressman. (Although wasn't there a Dem a while back who did the same thing and got re-elected?)
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Webb closes the gap to 7000 votes with 98% of the precincts reporting.
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Good news/bad news from South Dakota.

At least the abortion ban went down, or appears to be going down.

South Dakota Referendum 6:
Ban on Abortion
Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET
Full SD
Yes 55,778 45% 39% of precincts reporting
No 69,287 55%

South Dakota Amendment C:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET
Full SD
Yes 66,868 52% 41% of precincts reporting
No 62,693 48%

South Dakota Initiative 4:
Allow Medical Marijuana
Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET
Yes 59,430 48% 39% of precincts reporting
No 64,392 52%


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Even Tennessee isn't over yet.

It's 51-48 for Corker(R) over Ford(D) with 86% counted. But it looks like most of the outstanding votes are in Davidson county, where Ford leads 60-39 with only 32% reporting. He could make up another 40,000 or 50,000 votes there... maybe not enough to win, but enough to make it close...

Tennessee Senate results by county.


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More problems for the Democrats in the Senate. The Washington Post has withdrawn their call in Maryland. Although Cardin now is in the lead, its too close to call.
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Just checked Missouri. St. Louis County hasn't even reported more than 1 percent yet so it is not over. Tester seems to be OK for now against Conrad Burns.

6,000 votes now separate Allen and Webb.


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Hold the phone, Myrtle

Virginia Senate
Updated: 11:47 p.m. ET

Democratic Webb
1,141,052 50% 99% of precincts reporting

Republican Allen
(Incumbent)
1,138,676 49%
Full VA
Independent Grassroots Parker
25,512 1%


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CNN senate projections:
48 Dem (incl. Lieberman and Sanders I think)
48 Rep
4 Processing

Processing States:
Virginia (98% rep)
Republican holding by ~0.2%

Tennesee (87% rep)
Republican holding by 3%

Missouri (53% rep)
Republican holding by 6%

Montana (9% rep)
Democrat PICK UP? by 6%

It ain't over. Dems can reasonably pick up 3 of the states listed

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Yikes, try 2400...

Webb 1,141,052
Allen 1,138,676
Diff 2,376
99% reporting

Recount here for sure.


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Those ballot proposal results are pretty depressing all over the country, it looks like a lot of the pro-'Civil Union' ones are going down to defeat as well...like they're going to affect the personal lives of those voting in them.

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webb won!!
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Webb passes Allen says CNN (TV)!!!!!!!

Richmond city coming in late for the Dems!!!


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In Virginia what's left is Arlington County's odd precincts not reported and that's Dem country.

Well, well, well. . . .


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Yeah, I don't really want to mention those...
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Carville woke up and said his people in Missouri assure him that votes are coming from St. Louis County for McCaskill. Says control of the Senate may now come down to Montana.
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quote:
Originally posted by West Coast Greeny:
Oh, and Mark Foley did indeed lose.... barely. I think he set the benchmark for the allowable amount of misconduct allowed by a congressman. (Although wasn't there a Dem a while back who did the same thing and got re-elected?)

On the first count, it was Foley's name but he wasn't the candidate. The Republican's replaced him but couldn't get his name off the ballot.

I recall something of the same thing but I looked at the Wikipedia list of American political sex scandals and couldn't see anything that similar. Barney Frank had a problem when a guy he hired and befriended (I assume had a sexual relationship with) ran a prostitution ring out of Frank's home in Washington.


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Do you think the influnece of the rising leftism in latni america is helping the dems win in the US tonight? Chavez was just in the US and maybe was doing some campaining
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quote:
Originally posted by SubZeroCat:
Do you think the influnece of the rising leftism in latni america is helping the dems win in the US tonight? Chavez was just in the US and maybe was doing some campaining

I think the current Democrats ran from Chavez or attacked him for attacking the President so I would say no.

This is strange tonight. Ford and McCaskill are creeping closer. . . and closer. . .

I'm not going to get any sleep tonight. Did babblerwannabe go to bed?


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No, I dont think the Dem will be able to win 51 seats. I think it will be up to Liberman.
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right now, I'll take 50-50 and call it a win.

Virginia. . . will it hold?

Virginia Senate
Updated: 12:09 a.m. ET

Democratic Webb
1,143,144 50% 99% of precincts reporting

Republican Allen
(Incumbent)
1,140,879 49%
Full VA
Independent Grassroots Parker
25,549 1%


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Lieberman and Bernie are being counted as Democrats.
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The problem of 50 50 is Cheney gets to vote.
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quote:
Originally posted by jrootham:
The problem of 50 50 is Cheney gets to vote.

True but symbolically, its better for Democrats. Cheney has to fund both sides on every Senate committee equally as well in case of a tie. And any tie Cheney breaks reflects back on the White House for whoever gets the nod in 2008 for the GOP.


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Pervertimento.

CNN and ABC have Webb up with 1,143,144 votes. The Virginia government web site (which is some kind of obnoxious PPP thing) has Allen up with fewer votes reporting.

I suppose they aren't being quite so aggressive about rapid posting.


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This flashed and then was recalled a minute later. Very strange.

Missouri Senate
Updated: 12:29 a.m. ET

Democratic McCaskill
751,262 48% 73% of precincts reporting votes by county voter survey results

Republican Talent
(Incumbent)
749,868 48%

Libertarian Gilmour
37,265 3%
Full MO
Progressive Lewis
13,975 1%


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Allen speaking now, apparently this one is going to recount and to the attorneys tomorrow.

Allen: "we're still counting votes."

It ain't over.


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Ok, its Corker in Tennessee for sure now, according to CNN. That makes Missouri and Virginia the keys. Virginia who knows, Missouri continues to tighten up. I guess the flash I posted must have been a mistake by CNN.
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OK NOW CNN IS RUNNING THAT FIGURE I POSTED ABOVE AS ACCURATE.

I really don't believe this. Wow.

Christ almighty I'll never get to bed tonight and it looks like I'm going to have to rewrite my rabble column for tomorrow.

Not that I mind. Its looking better than what I had a few hours ago.


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McCaskill pulls ahead in MO. Good odds for the Dems there.

Edit: they had 48-48, but CNN now showing a 50-47 Repug lead. Hmm...

[ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Albireo ]


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just checking...

You guys do realize this is like watching a two-way race between the Liberals and Conservatives up here, right? All this election answers is which orifice they're going to go after first.


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True enough. It's like choosing between evil and bad.

I'm cheering for bad.


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quote:
Originally posted by Albireo:
McCaskill pulls ahead in MO. Good odds for the Dems there.

Edit: they had 48-48, but CNN now showing a 50-47 Repug lead. Hmm...

[ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Albireo ]


Yeah this is VERY peculiar because they showed the same figures on live TV too but they have to be a mistake. Perhaps.


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quote:
Originally posted by BitWhys:
All this election answers is which orifice they're going to go after first.
...and right now the asshole is in the lead...

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Clay County MO is showing 0% reporting, and I think that's Kansas City, which would tend to break for McCaskill...?
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Lieberman and Bernie are being counted as Democrats.

According to CNN they will caucus with the Democrats.


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OK, CNN reporting Carville was told from " a very good source" that 30,000 absentee ballots from Fairfax County remains uncounted. That should be heavily for Webb.

But already the lawyers are getting plane tickets for Richmond.


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According to Carville, some 30-40,000 absentee ballots to be counted for VA tomorrow, most of them for Fairfax county, largely Dem...
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Hopefully this is accurate:

Missouri Senate
Updated: 12:59 a.m. ET

Democratic McCaskill
813,003 49% 80% of precincts reporting

Republican Talent
(Incumbent)
799,007 48%

Libertarian Gilmour
39,451 2%
Full MO
Progressive Lewis
14,851 1%


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and So. Dakota votes against banning abortion...
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Now 49 to 48 McCaskill. Kansas City must be coming in. Montana holding Democrat although the lead is not increasing. I bet the Republicans will contest every close race, knowing the judicial system is weighted in their favour.
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Now McKaskill ahead in MO, says CNN.

Lots still to come from St. Louis, normally Dem.


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Its accurate!

Well, well, well. . . .

CNN showing McCaskill's HQ erupting. They made up about 30,000 votes in a flash.


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Webb speaking.

Webb claims victory!!!!!


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The Dem might take control of the Senate after all.
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Oh. My. God. I think they did it. Dems lead in 49, Repubs 49, Ind-Dem 2.

Not that I'm counting out something to still go reverse, somewhere.


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quote:
Originally posted by babblerwannabe:
The Dem might take control of the Senate after all.

A few hours ago, I wouldn't have bet on it either.

Casey Stengel somewhere is smiling.


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It's a nice twist of event..
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Too bad these spineless Dems will not move to give Bush the impeachment that he so richly deserves.
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Less important and less suspenseful, but CBC has a brief rundown of some of the governors' races:
quote:
Elections for governor were being held in 36 states. All but one of nine incumbents not seeking re-election were Republicans.

Included in that list were George Pataki (New York), Mitt Romney (Massachusetts) and Jeb Bush (Florida), all of whom are considered potential candidates to seek the federal leadership of their party.

Romney's successor made history. Democrat Deval Patrick became the first African-American governor in Massachusetts.

As expected, Democrat Eliot Spitzer will replace Pataki. The New York state attorney has spent the last several years targeting payola in the music industry and reforms on Wall Street.

The Republicans held in Florida, where Charlie Crist will succeed Bush. ...

Heading into the night, Republicans held 28 of the 50 governorships. The Democrats were headed to a majority after Tuesday, with as many as 27 governors.


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So does Bernie Sanders count as the first socialist senator?
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so the two indepdents can be considered as Dem ?

in that case, the Dem already won the Senate majority.


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Clay county is a suburb of Kansas City, it voted for Bush in 2004, and Gore in 2000. But in Talent's initial election it voted for the Democrat by about five points, and that was a very close election. So it should probably go to McCaskill.
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Just curious--where are you getting these results about the Dems being ahead in those crucial Senate races? According to CNN there's been no movement in those races.

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The first Muslim has been elected to Congress: Keith Ellison, Minnesota.
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Here:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/senate/

It tends to lurch along. Nothing for 10-15 minutes then several updates at once. Why I do not know.


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Virginia Interactive is continuing to update vote totals. With 2433 out of 2443 precincts reporting Webb leads 1,162,004 to 1,157,259.
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If anyone is still up, McCaskill is on live and seems to be claiming victory.

That would leave Montana and the coming war of attorneys in Virginia.


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Montana looks good. Fairly stable results and the count just keeps going up.

Not that I want to hachet my count before he chickens.


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Considering the apparent Dem victories so far, and given that K. Rove was working his butt off to make sure this didn't happen by rigging the voting machines and everything else his slime machine could think of, imagine what the actual vote for Democrats must have been!!!!

My gawd, there may be hope for America after all!!!


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The darksiders are expressing their fears that with the Democrats having some power, it will just roon the economy. As if Bush had been good for the economy. Huge war debt, anyone?

They don't seem to have noticed the possibility of a tie or whatever in the Senate; but then they are good at denying reality.


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quote:
Originally posted by jrootham:
Virginia Interactive is continuing to update vote totals. With 2433 out of 2443 precincts reporting Webb leads 1,162,004 to 1,157,259.

Thanks for that. Apparently CNN just caught up with this update:

Virginia Senate
Updated: 2:00 a.m. ET

Democratic Webb
1,151,230 50% 99% of precincts reporting

Republican Allen
(Incumbent)
1,145,511 49%
Full VA
Independent Grassroots Parker
25,670 1%


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UPDATE: Talent concedes, CNN calls it for McCaskill.

Madame Speaker I'd like to introduce you to your counterpart in the Senate, Mr. Reid.

Mr. Cheney you may sit down sir.

WHAM! Talent is thanking God for taking the collar. I think he's conceding.

Missouri Senate
Updated: 2:03 a.m. ET

Democratic McCaskill
908,386 50% 88% of precincts reporting

Republican Talent
(Incumbent)
869,294 47%

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I read somewhere that McCaskill is the one Michael J. Fox made that ad for and that it may have helped.
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quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:
The darksiders are expressing their fears that with the Democrats having some power, it will just roon the economy. As if Bush had been good for the economy. Huge war debt, anyone?

They don't seem to have noticed the possibility of a tie or whatever in the Senate; but then they are good at denying reality.


Are they calling them "The Democrat Party" too?

In any case Bush is still President, so he'll probably just veto everything.


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quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:
I read somewhere that McCaskill is the one Michael J. Fox made that ad for and that it may have helped.

Yep. And let's thank Rush Limbaugh for shaking in his seat and seeing the real face of "compassionate conservatism."

Didn't think it would come down to Montana. Webb's lead in Va. continues to trend upward.


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posted 07 November 2006 11:19 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
CBS uupdates rather regularly - and you don't even need to refresh the page.
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More votes in in Virginia, and it looks better for Webb.

Webb 1,167,694
Allen 1,155,950
Diff 11,744


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It comes down to Montana, with a Dem leading in a red state...

Tester 128,245
Burns 116,994
Diff 11,251
66% reporting.

Can Burns hang on for the Repugs?


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posted 07 November 2006 11:35 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Palmerston:
So does Bernie Sanders count as the first socialist senator?

Yes, and the good news is, Sherrod Brown won in Ohio.

The Progressive Democrats of America are happy:

quote:
PDA-backed candidates have taken some big bites out of conventional wisdom and centrist Democratic complacency. . . In Ohio, PDA will continue to support its endorsed candidate Rep. Sherrod Brown, in his Senate bid. In Connecticut, the organization will work hard to defeat Sen. Joe Lieberman a second time and elect Ned Lamont. November wins by Brown, Lamont and Vermont’s Bernie Sanders could herald formation of a Senate Progressive Caucus.

Too bad about Ned Lamont, but at least Bernie has company.

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I don't like the *reduction* of Dem votes in Virginia.

Some time ago I had this from the CNN site:

Webb 1,167,694
Allen 1,155,950
Diff 11,744


Now they are showing this:

Webb 1,163,959
Allen 1,156,431
Diff 7,528

How did Webb's total go DOWN while Allen's went up?


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Bushwhacked Rethugnicans in the House of Representatives has a nice ring to it. But a few more need to suffer defeat in the Senate, right?
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I really can't figure out CNN tonight.

Here's the current tally from the Virginia state site:

Candidates Party Vote Totals Percentage
J H Webb Jr Democratic 1,169,373 49.56%
G F Allen Republican 1,161,739 49.24%


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D Jon TESTER 149,922 50

R Conrad BURNS 142,764 48

NOOOOOooo..


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Montana looking iffy...

Tester 149,922
Burns 142,764
Diff 7,158

Dem still leading with 74% reporting, but it looks like many of the outstanding areas are strongly Republican, so they may yet hold the Senate.


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Someone else to cheer for: Betty Sutton, who took over Sherrod Brown's seat on the southwest fringes of Cleveland (which makes Dennis Kucinich her neighbour), winning with 61%:
quote:
Following her father's death, Betty continued law school while running for and winning an at-large seat on the Barberton City Council, beating out incumbent council members for the seat.

In 1993, Sutton won a hard-fought campaign for the Ohio House of Representatives. There she was a leader on a wide range of issues, including health care, pensions and retirement, and payment of prevailing wages on public construction projects . . .

She has continued her advocacy in the private sector as a labor lawyer . . She represents first responders, teachers, nurses and other workers, fighting for fair wages, safe working conditions and family-sustaining benefits.



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Tester
144,544 49%
Burns
(Incumbent)
140,547 48%


81% precincts reporting - Updated: 3:48 a.m. ET


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In MT-Sen, the two counties that haven't reported according to CNN are Meager County and Yellowstone County. Meager has less than 1000 voters, at least according to the last presidential election, and it went 71-25 for Bush. Yellowstone has over 66,000 voters, and it went 61-36 for Bush. Considering that Tester is going to do much better than Kerry is, it's hard to say which way Yellowstone will go but Tester has the advantage, and I'll explain why later. But Meager will probably stay with Burns. It seems like most of the other places have reported in. If it matters, the Democratic govenor of Montana, won Yellowstone county by about 51 to 45 percent over his Republican opponent. And won the election overall 50-46, and since it's pretty close now, with a slight edge to Tester, he has a decent shot at winning that populous county.

It appears that a few other counties that are going for Burns, still have a few precincts still to report. But there are still a few that are going for Tester that haven't reported in yet.

Just thought all the burn outs out there would like to know that...

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i DONT CARE. i AM NOT GOING TO BED UNTIL I KNOW!
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Oh my god. When I went to bed, I figured House-Democrats, Senate-Republicans. I wake up and they're 50-50, and a possibility of the last two seats splitting too!

What a nailbiter!

The two red tie anchors on CNN right now are saying that many of the Democrats in the House are conservatives, so Pelosi will have a hard time keeping the Democrats together.


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Oh my god II. I just wrote the 180th post in this thread! This is the 181st!

Continue here.


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