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West Coast Greeny
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posted 07 November 2006 10:53 AM
Well, there's no thread at the moment specifically on the US midterm elections, although plenty on candidates, scandals, etc...So this thread I suppose can be for the predictions, voting irregularities, media coverage and results. Now, in the irregularities dept. there isn't, at the moment any huge problems, at least not being reported in the media. Minor problems reported at some precincts. So, all things being equal, I say the Dems take the house with about a 10 seat advantage, but fall short in the senate races 48D-50R-2I.
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posted 07 November 2006 11:17 AM
quote: voting irregularities
Voting irregularities?? You jest of course. Not in the worlds oldest and greatest democracy, the land of the free, the home of the brave, the worlds largest exporter of democracy, (well, maybe next to depleted uranium) etc. etc... . . . Someone posted in a thread within the last year a list of flaws in the USian voting system which included among many other shockers that the owners and developers of most of the voting machinery were large companies with strong republican ties. Also, there are no permanent paper records. (trust us, we're Americans )
If someone with more time on their hands than I coud find the link to that, it would be a worthwhile contribution.
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John K
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posted 07 November 2006 11:37 AM
Predictions time!Senate: Repubs 50 Dems 49 Ind 1 (Lieberman, yech!) House: Dems 224 Repubs 211
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posted 07 November 2006 11:49 AM
quote: VOTER PROTECTION -- NEW HAMPSHIRE STOPS SOME RIGHT WING HARASSING ROBO-CALLS: The National Republican Congressional Committee "agreed to stop making automated phone calls to New Hampshire residents on the federal do-not-call list" on Sunday after annoyed citizens complained to the state attorney general. Like right wing harassing calls in other states, the scheme involves making "repeated robo-calls to households late in the evening or early in the morning," when voters will be "sleeping and most annoyed by the calls." The automated calls in New Hampshire lead voters to believe the call is coming from Democratic challenger Paul Hodes, but ends by saying the call was paid for by the NRCC after most voters will have already hung up. Under New Hampshire law, "political campaigns can contact people on the do-not-call list, but cannot use automated recordings." The calls have "infuriated countless voters and triggered sharp complaints" from voters who say that "the Republican Party has crossed the line in bombarding households with recorded attacks on candidates." A spokesman for Hodes said the calls also violate "a Federal Communications Commission rule that says automated calls must identify their source at the beginning of the message." An NRCC spokesman claims the group did not break the law, and the FCC did not comment despite receiving complaints. The NRCC is using "robo-calls" in at least 53 competitive House races nationwide.
from the Center for American Progress. Now this is a nasty assed trick!
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Noise
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posted 07 November 2006 01:23 PM
yahoo is the mail client I use... So I get to see their headlines. Thi one had me laughing... What these elections mean to Canadians!wait.. prep yourself for this one... Our genious ambassador had this to say: quote: MONTREAL (CP) - Even a Democratic sweep of Tuesday's mid-term elections won't undermine Canada's strong relationship with the United States, says U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins.
I'd like to thank the kind Ambassador for putting to rest my fears of what may happen if the Democrats sweep the mid-terms... I was starting to fear what them Democrats would do to us. NOW WHAT THE *%&%* IS HE GOING TO DO TO EASE OUR FEAR OF A REPUBLICAN SWEEP?!?! What a backassward comment from him ^^ [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Noise ] wiki on wilkins: quote: On April 4, 2005, CBC News reported that he would be chosen as the new U.S. ambassador to Canada, replacing Paul Cellucci. President Bush officially nominated him for the post on April 27, and he formally became U.S. Ambassador to Canada on June 29 when he presented his credentials to Governor General Adrienne Clarkson. The Associated Press reported that before his appointment, Wilkins had only been to Canada once, while he was in the U.S. Army Reserve three decades prior.
I find it quite interesting he felt it nessacary to calm our fears of a democrat sweep ^^ [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Noise ]
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posted 07 November 2006 01:35 PM
What a dickwad.Oh, I'm an idiot. I didn't notice the name and thought you meant the Canadian Ambassador to the US. Never mind. He's still a jerk, but my original comment doesn't make sense. [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Michelle ]
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posted 07 November 2006 01:54 PM
heh, included an edit in the first post for you michelle. Apparently (as per the article) this is the first time in years he's watched as an ambassador and not a republican candidate.As for voter fraud... The reports are varying: Yahoo quote: In one elementary school in the predominantly black district of East Cleveland, Ohio, all 12 machines went down when voting opened at 6:30 am (1130 GMT), according to an AFP correspondent at the scene. The machines were not started up until two hours later and poll officials refused to hand out paper ballots until a lawyer for the watchdog group Election Protection showed up.
"The machines weren't working and they were just turning people away," said the attorney, Fred Livingstone. "They are not allowed to do that."
CBC has it as a 'debacle' quote: By mid-afternoon, officials in at least three jurisdictions — Denver, Colo., Muncie, Ind., and Davidson County, Tenn. — were asking federal judges for extended voting hours because, they said, voting machines in their areas have not functioned and they cannot handle the numbers of voters at the polls without more time.Seventy-five precincts in Indiana — considered a bellwether state — failed to open on schedule because machines malfunctioned. In Cleveland, where there were problems with new machines in September's party primaries, things seemed no better. "Again the same problem," Champ said. "Machines and machine supervisors unable to get the operations underway. Voters piling up in the doorways."
On CNN it's not quite worth the headline, but this quote is there: quote: Another controversy facing some states were technical glitches and other voting problems. The possibility of controversial election returns had already reared itself in Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, New Jersey, New York and Ohio as of Tuesday afternoon.
(Kinda sad... Article topping the CNN above voting issues: Britney Spears is getting divorced | Sex tape lawsuit) BBC isn't running it as a headline either, but a huge chunk of an article has this in it:
quote: Glitches delayed voting in dozens of precincts in Indiana and Ohio. Officials extended polling hours in Delaware County, Indiana, and in Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, after voting was held up by computer problems. There were reports that districts in Tennessee and Colorado were also seeking to keep polling stations open longer. Problems were also reported in Illinois, Florida, New Jersey, Virginia and Maryland, although experts said many of the difficulties were minor.
And thats most of my articles not beyond firewalls ^^
Oh, BBC has a bit done up on the why behind american mid-term elections for anyone not up to speed. Done in the format so a Brit can understand the american system, so it should work quite well for us.
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posted 07 November 2006 02:27 PM
Get ready for the glitches quote: New Voter ID Rules: About a dozen states have enacted stricter voter ID laws in the last few years, and these laws usually require voters to produce a photo ID before obtaining a ballot. Since not every potential voter has a photo ID, many of these measures have been contested in state and federal courts by plaintiffs charging the state's with voter suppression, and several have been modified even in the last week. Ohio, for example, was forced by court ruling just last Wednesday to loosen its new ID requirements. A similar walk-back occurred in Georgia, where voters can now produce one of 17 different forms of ID or swear an affidavit of identity — far easier than producing a photo ID. Other states haven't backed down on their new rules. Check your Secretary of State's website if you aren't sure what to bring. But be prepared for challenges.
And the US wonders why there is such a low turnout for their elections. It's a wonder that it's as high as it is, considering that you have to jump through hoops just to get registered. For babble Yanks: here in Canada it's so much easier. You just go to the polling station with your election card, which you receive in the mail. If you didn't get one and didn't have a chance to get to an Elections Canada outlet, you can be sworn in right then and there, with proof that you live at the address (either ID or a utility bill) and then you can vote. Yes, I know, that might increase the chances of people who are ineligible to vote getting through. But honestly - I would rather see the occasional motivated non-citizen resident of Canada get an illegal vote in, than to see many residents of Canada not be able to vote on election day.
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miles
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posted 07 November 2006 04:57 PM
when the Dems take control of the House and have Nancy as the Speaker. What will be different? the committee chairpeople will be 20 plus year veterans of the House. The same big military contracts will be ordered and filled.Will the foreign policy resolutions be that different? really no the resolutions will basicaly say the samething because the leadership will be the same. Will their be a big swing? Will the US House of Reps suddenly become pro-Palestinian? The answer is no. What about the Senate. What will be different in the Senate? Nothing. Same resolutions with a different signature because of a possible change in Majority. So really does it matter? Virginia may elect the Dem for Senate but early results show a majority of registered dems in Virginia are against same sex marriage ballot initiative [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: miles ]
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Albireo
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posted 07 November 2006 05:37 PM
Amazingly, with 25% of precincts reporting, Mark Foley in Florida 16 is LEADING his Democratic challenger by 50%-47%.In order to be defeated in his district, maybe he really had to murder congressional pages and bugger their lifeless corpses in public while lighting a crack pipe with a burning US flag. WTF???!!! CNN House races page. [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Albireo ]
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miles
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posted 07 November 2006 05:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doug: They can do that in the States, you know. It's a projection, of course, based on results so far plus the exit polls.
Yes I am all too aware of exit polls. for example their was this little election a couple of years ago when a bunch of us planned the Kerry Cabinet etc based upon exit polls I will wait for the official before i jump up and sing "ding dong the wicked bastard is gone!!!!"
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 05:43 PM
Hey there Maya!Grew up in Chardon which is 30 miles to the east of Cleveland - the capitol of the snow belt. Did you go to Oberlin College? And unlike Ontario in 1984 where I couldn't drink until Mulroney won, there are no blue laws that I know of on election day in the states. A few southern locales or Utah may have them here and there but no problem on that. Menendez (D) holds New Jersey. BTW on the Foley thing - it was too late to change the name to the fill in candidate. Still pretty sick, like Bob Corker winning in Tennessee. Doesn't look real promising for the Dems in the Senate but the House looks good at this point. quote: Originally posted by mayakovsky: I was about to ask whether there was a stream going on about the midterm elections. Anything about the amount of voters? Michelle I heard that bars are closed on election day. Is this true AE? You'd think that after six years of George W Bush they'd allow you some Anheuser-Busch or some other such consumation. AE, all the best! Whereabouts in Ohio I spent some time in Oberlin myself.
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Michelle
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posted 07 November 2006 05:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by miles: Yes I am all too aware of exit polls. for example their was this little election a couple of years ago when a bunch of us planned the Kerry Cabinet etc based upon exit polls
I just heard this tonight on CNN as well. One of the commentators was saying something about how all the pundits were planning the Kerry cabinet, and "we were all wrong". And I kept thinking, yeah, unless you weren't wrong. Gee, all indications including the exit polls were for a Democratic win, but goshdarnit, those polling machines (many of which don't bother with that pesky little paper voting record thing) spit out a Republican win. But gosh, I'm sure it was just that "we were all wrong".
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 05:51 PM
(ME DANCING IN THE BASEMENT)Bye Bye Mike DeWine - the new SENATOR FROM OHIO SHERROD BROWN (D)!!!!!! Ohio I like you again. Smooch! And they're calling him a POPULIST on CNN. Ooooh. Too much good news. Waiting for the yin to the yang here but so far, I like.
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BetterRed
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posted 07 November 2006 05:57 PM
quote: WHOOO HOO Jim Webb pulls in front with 25 percent in Virginia. (fingers very tightly crossed here).
I dunno about that guy. They just mentioned on CNN that Webb was a Republican right till the Iraq war. He was in Reagan's cabinet. He constantly mentions that his son is in Iraq. Not that I think that all Dem veterans are warmongers, but this guy seems like another John McCain.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 05:59 PM
No argument but the Dems need him as a warm body with a D next to his name in the Senate.Polls I have just read show Webb should be winning in Virginia. Looks like Ford is toast in Tennessee as I thought he would be. The bubbas came out for Corker after that ad all the polls in this race changed and I don't care what any of the suits on CNN say - race baiting turned the tide in Tenn. quote: Originally posted by BetterRed:
I dunno about that guy. They just mentioned on CNN that Webb was a Republican right till the Iraq war. He was in Reagan's cabinet. He constantly mentions that his son is in Iraq. Not that I think that all Dem veterans are warmongers, but this guy seems like another John McCain.
Michelle - the Senate is the more powerful body when in comes to advise and consent. Casey now gets the nod in Pa so Santorum is toast - no big surprise here but its nice to see. [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Américain Égalitaire ]
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posted 07 November 2006 06:12 PM
Oh yes, my predictions: House: 225 Dems (too optimistic) 210 repubsSenate: 48 Dems+Lieberman+Sanders 50 repubs Senate pickups: Dems: Ohio, Pennsylvania(duh), Rhode I, Missouri
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miles
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posted 07 November 2006 06:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Michelle: He's a DINO. Lieberman is a Republican win. He'll have just as much "power" as any other Republican that gets elected.
Michelle it could be Joe Lieberman who decides if the Dems control the Senate or the Repubs. I am not so sure that Lieberman will be a repub. rather i think he will be the king maker and make the Dems the majority in the Senate.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 06:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by miles:
Michelle it could be Joe Lieberman who decides if the Dems control the Senate or the Repubs. I am not so sure that Lieberman will be a repub. rather i think he will be the king maker and make the Dems the majority in the Senate.
Lieberman swears he'll caucus with the Dems no matter what the GOP offers him. Good news - Ford has made a major move on Corker: Republican Corker 430,446 51% 27% of precincts reporting Democratic Ford, Jr. 412,968 48%
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posted 07 November 2006 06:32 PM
Lamont may not be dead yet: quote: CT for Lieberman Lieberman (Incumbent) 32,238 45% Democratic Lamont 33,166 46% Republican Schlesinger 6,012 8% Green Ferrucci 419 1% Concerned Citizens Knibbs 308 0%
CNN as of now
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Doug
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posted 07 November 2006 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by babblerwannabe: It just goes to show that most americans are still idiots.
I won't go quite that far, even though it's tempting. I didn't expect the actual results to move as much as the polling had in the first place, because of a well-known, repeated observation. Public opinion may generally think that Congress is doing a rotten job, but they are much more positive about their own representative...and that's who they ultimately have to vote for. Oh - and another amusing observation. Won't Democrats in Virginia just want to *murder* their local Green Party if they lose?
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posted 07 November 2006 06:49 PM
I just had an evil thought about Virginia. The FBI is investigating deceptive phone calls in Virginia. Since they were going into black neighbourhoods what are the odds that there was an FBI wiretap or at least a phone number trace on one of the phones called? A boomerang effect of racial profiling. Except, of course, it wouldn't be admissible. As I said, it was an evil thought. I did get a chuckle out of the possibility, though.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 06:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kevin_Laddle: Holy fuck!! Ford and Lamont are both leading! The Dems are gonna take the senate!!! [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Kevin_Laddle ]
No, they're not. And at this point, I'd have to call for Allen in Virginia and Corker in Tennessee. A race baiting ad in Tennessee and the "Macaca" comment in Virginia notwithstanding. Its a sad commentary in my view. But the South is still the South. And McCaskill isn't off to a flying start in Missouri either. I think trying to sweep three southern states (and I consider Missouri primarily Southern) was overly optimistic, even in the present climate.
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posted 07 November 2006 06:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:
No, they're not. And at this point, I'd have to call for Allen in Virginia and Corker in Tennessee. A race baiting ad in Tennessee and the "Macaca" comment in Virginia notwithstanding. Its a sad commentary in my view. But the South is still the South. And McCaskill isn't off to a flying start in Missouri either. I think trying to sweep three southern states (and I consider Missouri primarily Southern) was overly optimistic, even in the present climate.
AE, what is your source? The NY Times has Lamont leading 47% to 44% right now...
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Michelle
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posted 07 November 2006 07:18 PM
The answer is - they don't get busted. Everyone knows it, but nothing happens. Anyone remember watching Al Gore wimp out? Remember watching him brush aside all the Black people who came forward to complain about the way they were systematically stopped from voting in Florida? The answer is: nothing happens. The Republicans win and the Democrats wimp out because Democrats are wimps. BTW, Lamont just conceded - CNN just had his speech.
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posted 07 November 2006 07:33 PM
Projected Senate: 47 Democrats 51 Republicans 2 Independents -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Projected House: 236 Democrats 194 Republicans 5 Ties From electoral-vote.com
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Lord Palmerston
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posted 07 November 2006 07:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:
And McCaskill is looking like a loss as well in Missouri. Again, three Southern states - maybe we were hoping for too much from the South.
Weren't these candidates all rightwing religious right types anyway?
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BetterRed
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posted 07 November 2006 08:24 PM
Hold the anxiety dude.... there's a better candidate to cheer for:The results from Montana show DemocratJon Tester with 54% While that dumbshit Senator Conrad Burns"9/11 happened because of Canada" is down with 45%.
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posted 07 November 2006 08:27 PM
Hey this is fun. Based on county by county results, it may be to early to write McCaskill off in Missouri as well. Many of the big urban precincts near St. Louis and Kansas City have either not reported, or reported only a small percentage of their votes. CNN has this neat county by county feature.
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posted 07 November 2006 08:31 PM
Hello everyone.The dems need to find 2 senate seats, somehow, to pick up control of the senate. So the Allan-Webb race wont really change anything. (Besides, electoral vote is calling VA slight Dem at the moment 48-47) Not that I don't want to see Allan get thrown on his ass. Now I just want to see him win the Republican primary.
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posted 07 November 2006 08:35 PM
Good news/bad news from South Dakota. At least the abortion ban went down, or appears to be going down. South Dakota Referendum 6: Ban on Abortion Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET Full SD Yes 55,778 45% 39% of precincts reporting No 69,287 55% South Dakota Amendment C: Ban Same-Sex Marriage Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET Full SD Yes 66,868 52% 41% of precincts reporting No 62,693 48% South Dakota Initiative 4: Allow Medical Marijuana Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET Yes 59,430 48% 39% of precincts reporting No 64,392 52%
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posted 07 November 2006 08:36 PM
Even Tennessee isn't over yet.It's 51-48 for Corker(R) over Ford(D) with 86% counted. But it looks like most of the outstanding votes are in Davidson county, where Ford leads 60-39 with only 32% reporting. He could make up another 40,000 or 50,000 votes there... maybe not enough to win, but enough to make it close... Tennessee Senate results by county.
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posted 07 November 2006 08:49 PM
CNN senate projections: 48 Dem (incl. Lieberman and Sanders I think) 48 Rep 4 ProcessingProcessing States: Virginia (98% rep) Republican holding by ~0.2% Tennesee (87% rep) Republican holding by 3% Missouri (53% rep) Republican holding by 6% Montana (9% rep) Democrat PICK UP? by 6% It ain't over. Dems can reasonably pick up 3 of the states listed [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: West Coast Greeny ]
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Albireo
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posted 07 November 2006 08:50 PM
Yikes, try 2400...Webb 1,141,052 Allen 1,138,676 Diff 2,376 99% reporting Recount here for sure.
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posted 07 November 2006 08:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by West Coast Greeny: Oh, and Mark Foley did indeed lose.... barely. I think he set the benchmark for the allowable amount of misconduct allowed by a congressman. (Although wasn't there a Dem a while back who did the same thing and got re-elected?)
On the first count, it was Foley's name but he wasn't the candidate. The Republican's replaced him but couldn't get his name off the ballot. I recall something of the same thing but I looked at the Wikipedia list of American political sex scandals and couldn't see anything that similar. Barney Frank had a problem when a guy he hired and befriended (I assume had a sexual relationship with) ran a prostitution ring out of Frank's home in Washington.
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posted 07 November 2006 09:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by SubZeroCat: Do you think the influnece of the rising leftism in latni america is helping the dems win in the US tonight? Chavez was just in the US and maybe was doing some campaining
I think the current Democrats ran from Chavez or attacked him for attacking the President so I would say no. This is strange tonight. Ford and McCaskill are creeping closer. . . and closer. . . I'm not going to get any sleep tonight. Did babblerwannabe go to bed?
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posted 07 November 2006 09:28 PM
Pervertimento.CNN and ABC have Webb up with 1,143,144 votes. The Virginia government web site (which is some kind of obnoxious PPP thing) has Allen up with fewer votes reporting. I suppose they aren't being quite so aggressive about rapid posting.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 09:43 PM
OK NOW CNN IS RUNNING THAT FIGURE I POSTED ABOVE AS ACCURATE. I really don't believe this. Wow. Christ almighty I'll never get to bed tonight and it looks like I'm going to have to rewrite my rabble column for tomorrow. Not that I mind. Its looking better than what I had a few hours ago.
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posted 07 November 2006 09:43 PM
McCaskill pulls ahead in MO. Good odds for the Dems there.Edit: they had 48-48, but CNN now showing a 50-47 Repug lead. Hmm... [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Albireo ]
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posted 07 November 2006 09:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Albireo: McCaskill pulls ahead in MO. Good odds for the Dems there.Edit: they had 48-48, but CNN now showing a 50-47 Repug lead. Hmm... [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Albireo ]
Yeah this is VERY peculiar because they showed the same figures on live TV too but they have to be a mistake. Perhaps.
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obscurantist
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posted 07 November 2006 10:26 PM
Less important and less suspenseful, but CBC has a brief rundown of some of the governors' races: quote: Elections for governor were being held in 36 states. All but one of nine incumbents not seeking re-election were Republicans.Included in that list were George Pataki (New York), Mitt Romney (Massachusetts) and Jeb Bush (Florida), all of whom are considered potential candidates to seek the federal leadership of their party. Romney's successor made history. Democrat Deval Patrick became the first African-American governor in Massachusetts. As expected, Democrat Eliot Spitzer will replace Pataki. The New York state attorney has spent the last several years targeting payola in the music industry and reforms on Wall Street. The Republicans held in Florida, where Charlie Crist will succeed Bush. ... Heading into the night, Republicans held 28 of the 50 governorships. The Democrats were headed to a majority after Tuesday, with as many as 27 governors.
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Disgusted
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posted 07 November 2006 11:02 PM
Considering the apparent Dem victories so far, and given that K. Rove was working his butt off to make sure this didn't happen by rigging the voting machines and everything else his slime machine could think of, imagine what the actual vote for Democrats must have been!!!!My gawd, there may be hope for America after all!!!
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 11:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by jrootham: Virginia Interactive is continuing to update vote totals. With 2433 out of 2443 precincts reporting Webb leads 1,162,004 to 1,157,259.
Thanks for that. Apparently CNN just caught up with this update: Virginia Senate Updated: 2:00 a.m. ET Democratic Webb 1,151,230 50% 99% of precincts reporting Republican Allen (Incumbent) 1,145,511 49% Full VA Independent Grassroots Parker 25,670 1%
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 07 November 2006 11:05 PM
UPDATE: Talent concedes, CNN calls it for McCaskill. Madame Speaker I'd like to introduce you to your counterpart in the Senate, Mr. Reid. Mr. Cheney you may sit down sir. WHAM! Talent is thanking God for taking the collar. I think he's conceding. Missouri Senate Updated: 2:03 a.m. ET Democratic McCaskill 908,386 50% 88% of precincts reporting Republican Talent (Incumbent) 869,294 47% [ 07 November 2006: Message edited by: Américain Égalitaire ]
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Vansterdam Kid
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posted 07 November 2006 11:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Contrarian: The darksiders are expressing their fears that with the Democrats having some power, it will just roon the economy. As if Bush had been good for the economy. Huge war debt, anyone? They don't seem to have noticed the possibility of a tie or whatever in the Senate; but then they are good at denying reality.
Are they calling them "The Democrat Party" too? In any case Bush is still President, so he'll probably just veto everything.
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Albireo
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posted 07 November 2006 11:26 PM
It comes down to Montana, with a Dem leading in a red state...Tester 128,245 Burns 116,994 Diff 11,251 66% reporting. Can Burns hang on for the Repugs?
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Albireo
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posted 07 November 2006 11:48 PM
I don't like the *reduction* of Dem votes in Virginia.Some time ago I had this from the CNN site: Webb 1,167,694 Allen 1,155,950 Diff 11,744 Now they are showing this:
Webb 1,163,959 Allen 1,156,431 Diff 7,528 How did Webb's total go DOWN while Allen's went up?
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Albireo
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posted 07 November 2006 11:54 PM
Montana looking iffy...Tester 149,922 Burns 142,764 Diff 7,158 Dem still leading with 74% reporting, but it looks like many of the outstanding areas are strongly Republican, so they may yet hold the Senate.
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Wilf Day
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posted 08 November 2006 12:15 AM
Someone else to cheer for: Betty Sutton, who took over Sherrod Brown's seat on the southwest fringes of Cleveland (which makes Dennis Kucinich her neighbour), winning with 61%: quote: Following her father's death, Betty continued law school while running for and winning an at-large seat on the Barberton City Council, beating out incumbent council members for the seat. In 1993, Sutton won a hard-fought campaign for the Ohio House of Representatives. There she was a leader on a wide range of issues, including health care, pensions and retirement, and payment of prevailing wages on public construction projects . . . She has continued her advocacy in the private sector as a labor lawyer . . She represents first responders, teachers, nurses and other workers, fighting for fair wages, safe working conditions and family-sustaining benefits.
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Vansterdam Kid
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posted 08 November 2006 01:13 AM
In MT-Sen, the two counties that haven't reported according to CNN are Meager County and Yellowstone County. Meager has less than 1000 voters, at least according to the last presidential election, and it went 71-25 for Bush. Yellowstone has over 66,000 voters, and it went 61-36 for Bush. Considering that Tester is going to do much better than Kerry is, it's hard to say which way Yellowstone will go but Tester has the advantage, and I'll explain why later. But Meager will probably stay with Burns. It seems like most of the other places have reported in. If it matters, the Democratic govenor of Montana, won Yellowstone county by about 51 to 45 percent over his Republican opponent. And won the election overall 50-46, and since it's pretty close now, with a slight edge to Tester, he has a decent shot at winning that populous county.It appears that a few other counties that are going for Burns, still have a few precincts still to report. But there are still a few that are going for Tester that haven't reported in yet. Just thought all the burn outs out there would like to know that... [ 08 November 2006: Message edited by: Vansterdam Kid ]
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