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Hephaestion
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posted 04 April 2005 09:55 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bishop Robinson upsets leaders with idea that Jesus may have been gay

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The Right Reverend Gene Robinson, Bishop of New Hampshire in the Episcopal Church, has upset traditionalists by suggesting that Jesus may have been gay. Robinson said that Jesus was an unmarried, "non-traditional man" who did not uphold family values, "travelled with a bunch of men" and enjoyed an especially close relationship with one of his disciples. His comments, made in a recent address at the Christ Church of Hamilton and Wenham in Massachusetts, have brought interesting reactions to say the leasts. Traditionalists have suggested that the Bishop should be "struck down by thunder and lightning bolts."

Telegraph UK

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Boom Boom
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posted 04 April 2005 07:08 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Who is the "gay UK Bishop" in the thread title? Bishop Gene Robinson is American.
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Boom Boom
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posted 04 April 2005 11:49 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's a completely bullshit story. You can hear the transcript of +Gene's speech here:

http://www.christchurchhw.org/ then:

Scroll halfway down the page and click on:
Bishop Robinson Remarks - Part 1
Bishop Robinson Remarks - Part 2

At no point in his remarks does +Gene say _explicitly_ that Jesus was gay, although one could stretch his comments a bit and get that impression.


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Papal Bull
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posted 05 April 2005 12:32 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He sounds like a very thoughtful and kind man. His comments have just been miscontrued by angry and hateful people.
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Gir Draxon
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posted 05 April 2005 01:46 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The point was that Jesus never had a wife and 2.5 kids. This is Biblical truth.
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Boom Boom
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posted 05 April 2005 08:05 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gee, thanks for that informative tidbit, Gir.
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Hephaestion
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posted 05 April 2005 05:54 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gay bishop accuses conservatives of twisting words

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(Manchester, New Hampshire) Gene Robinson, the first openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church is accusing conservative elements within the worldwide Anglican faith of twisting his words to imply he said Jesus was gay.

Robinson took part in a February 13 forum on sexual issues at Christ Church in South Hamilton, Massachusetts. In his remarks Robinson said that Jesus was an unmarried, "non-traditional man", "traveled with a bunch of men" and enjoyed an especially close relationship with one of his disciples.

The forum and Robinson's remarks went generally unnoticed until Sunday when the conservative British paper The Independent accused the bishop of "suggesting that Jesus might have been homosexual."

The article was published in the aftermath of the death of Pope John Paul II and was seized upon up by conservatives within the Anglican Church who are waging a war against Robinson and gays in the Church.

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Robinson Tuesday denied that his remarks were meant to be interpreted as suggesting that Jesus might be gay and says that he is receiving a flood of hate messages.

“I can assure you with absolute certainty that was not my implication, and certainly not anything I ever said,” Bishop V. Gene Robinson told the New Hampshire Union Leader. “I am furious for my remarks to be interpreted in a way as to mean something I never said.”

[...]

Later in the speech, Robinson said: “Those who would posit the nuclear family as the be-all and end-all of God’s creation probably don’t find that much in the Gospels to support that. On the other hand, I happen to think the traditional family is a wonderful thing. I’m a product of it. I dearly love my family, and I love my own family, with my own two kids. It just looks a little non-traditional. But this Jesus, when you ask who is Jesus, he was not terribly mainstream, was he?”



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