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Frustrated Mess
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posted 18 March 2008 12:32 PM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A journalist held without charge in Guantanamo Bay has been prevented from barred from releasing cartoons he drew while imprisoned (still). One of the cartoons has been reproduced below:

I expect we will soon find it in the Western Standard among other organs devoted to free speech when the targets are brown skinned.

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Cueball
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posted 18 March 2008 04:04 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps you should put the word "cartoon" in the title. Then we can eventually get into the issue of Muslim censorship, and their weird and inexplicable and unjustifiable and uncivilized behaviour.

Is someone going to give us a two wrongs, don't make a right? At least....

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posted 18 March 2008 04:11 PM      Profile for jester        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cueball:
Perhaps you should put the word "cartoon" in the title. Then we can eventually get into the issue of Muslim censorship, and their weird and inexplicable and unjustifiable and uncivilized behaviour.

Is someone going to give us a two wrongs, don't make a right? At least....

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Not me, I know sarcasm when its 'splained to me.


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jester
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posted 18 March 2008 04:21 PM      Profile for jester        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I realise that the proponents of the Gitmo Carribean Adventure Vacation are untouchable while in power but can someone perhaps explain why they shouldn't be charged with war crimes and arrested if they choose to leave US soil?

These cartoons are a political expression and there is nothing wrong with publishing them.


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sanizadeh
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posted 18 March 2008 05:02 PM      Profile for sanizadeh        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jester:

These cartoons are a political expression and there is nothing wrong with publishing them.


More important than his right to publishing cartoons, is to question on what grounds this man and others like him have been held in a military prison for seven years without any charges. He is not even a combatant. If his right to liberty could be violated so easily, his lack of freedom of speech is just icing on top.

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posted 18 March 2008 05:48 PM      Profile for Sam   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do we at least know what he is being accused of doing!?
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Cueball
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posted 18 March 2008 05:58 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think its pretty obvious he was arrested in order to discredit the media outlet he works for. Plain enough. Back at the begining of this fiasco, first in Afghanistan and then in Iraq, they deliberately targetted Al Jazeera offices for one thing.

This, the original hubris, is maintained out of political propoganda expediency and also simple bureacratic inertia, as any admission of wrongdoing would bring the whole house of cards down.


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posted 18 March 2008 06:01 PM      Profile for adam stratton        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Do we at least know what he is being accused of doing!? -Sam

The usual, Sam! The usual.
Suspected links to Al-Qaida

quote:
The U.S. military alleges that he worked as a financial courier for Chechen rebels, and that he assisted al-Qaeda and extremist figures. In one taped message, Osama bin Laden purportedly called for his release.

Yet al-Haj has been held for nearly five years on the basis of secret evidence; he has not been convicted or even charged with a crime. Until this year—when an Associated Press lawsuit prompted the Pentagon to identify the detainees—the military would not acknowledge al-Haj was in custody. Al-Haj’s lawyer, who has been barred from attending his client’s hearings, has called the allegations baseless and the justice system at Guantanamo a sham.

“There is absolutely zero evidence that he has any history in terrorism at all,” said Clive Stafford Smith, legal director of Reprieve, a London-based human rights group, who took up al-Haj’s case in 2005.


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posted 18 March 2008 06:05 PM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While we are on the subject of freedom:
quote:
'On several occasions at Bagram, interrogators threatened to have me raped or sent to other countries like Egypt, Syria, Jordan or Israel to be raped,'' he alleges in Item 23. By Item 55, he has been transferred to Guantánamo, and he is taken to interrogation with an Afghan man, who ''told me that I would be sent to Afghanistan and raped.'' In Item 56, he says, an interrogator pulled his hair, spit in his face and threatened to bring in an Egyptian ``to rape me.''

The document also revisits old allegations -- such as his description on arriving in Guantánamo, at age 16, and hearing someone in the military say, ``Welcome to Israel.''

Or his claim, investigated by the military, that in March 2003 guards splashed his prison camp uniform with Pine Sol and dragged him around an interrogation booth, like a human mop, because he had urinated on himself during a bout of shackled isolation.

Pentagon and Guantánamo spokesmen did not reply Tuesday to queries on what that investigation found or whether anyone was disciplined.


http://www.miamiherald.com/guantanamo/story/461231.html


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posted 18 March 2008 06:13 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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He said military officials have appeared intent on establishing a relationship between Al-Jazeera and al-Qaeda, questioning al-Haj about prominent network journalists, the station’s finances, and how it pays for airline tickets.At one point, U.S. military interrogators allegedly told al-Haj that he would be released if he agreed to inform U.S. intelligence authorities about the satellite news network’s activities.

Al-Haj refused. Bush administration officials have made no secret of their distaste for Al-Jazeera, repeatedly labeling its programming inflammatory and accusing the station of working with terrorists.


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posted 18 March 2008 06:57 PM      Profile for adam stratton        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bull's eye, Cueball!
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posted 18 March 2008 07:24 PM      Profile for Sam   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anybody got a rocket launcher...
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posted 18 March 2008 09:17 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 


There ya go....


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posted 18 March 2008 10:09 PM      Profile for Sam   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He he...
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posted 18 March 2008 11:38 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Would Mr. Cokburn write this song today?
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posted 19 March 2008 09:59 AM      Profile for Sam   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The last I heard from Bruce he was doing the theme song to Franklin. Can't blame him actually.
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