I read his website and I believe it has more holes in it than a pair of old javexed jeans.
Scott Loper Website
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HOWEVER, in the interests of fairness, this man claims to have lived for 11 years in Canada, partially in Durham Region. If this is true, then SOMEONE must have seen him. I figure if I post it up here in [affectionately said] Lefty Land where we don't trust the government, he's more likely to get a fair hearing

Much as I don't want to send this information viral, it's going that way, anyway.

This video shows his face:
Scott Loper on Video

So, for anyone who can verify or deny his stories please contact his lawyers and Bob Unruh of World Net Daily.

And keep Rabble posted.

I'm a notorious skeptic, but I haven't seen anything so far that sounds impossible, much less like a hoax.

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Originally posted by M. Spector:
Maybe I didn't read all that stuff as closely as you, but I didn't see all the "holes" that you claim to see.

I'm a notorious skeptic, but I haven't seen anything so far that sounds impossible, much less like a hoax.

What am I missing?

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This conspiracy would have to include practically every person in the country.

Where are the court documents for the restraining orders?

Police don't issue restraining orders--the court does. They are issued because there is a threat to another citizen's safety. First there must be evidence and a hearing to put the order in place. Then the perpetrator must *breach* the order. This goes back to court for another hearing. Sometimes there is a third hearing. During EACH phase, a lawyer is present even if it's only duty council so...plus, it's an open court.

Where's the lawyer[s]? Court witnesses?

Where are the court transcripts?

WHAT "mental health facility" did Loper attend?
Is every doctor, nurse and patient etc. who saw this man for 72 hours ALSO on the Durham cop payroll?

Where are the perkinje [how OHIP pays, these records cannot be deleted, even by the original file creator] records that prove he was taken to such a facility? The police have no access to those records. Why did he not have his lawyer send a release for copies of those records? They must, by law, provide them.

Then he claims they dropped him off at a shelter. Which one? Shelter workers usually believe stories of police brutality but not one worker remembers him? Or why he was brought in? Why did he/lawyer not send a release form to have copies of those records?

When Whitby jail closed, what jail did he go to?
Since jails are provincial/federal--where is *their* paperwork? After all, how else did they receive their per diem payments?

Why did this man NOT list his child as missing at "Child Find"?

Where are the marriage/divorce records for wives, 1, 2 & 3?

He claims those records disappeared but what about the tax records? Did Durham police erase those too? How?

Where is the proof that he entered the country legally by marrying Canadian wife #1?

Why are there no transfer papers when he was moved from Whitby to another facility?

At this unnamed facility he can't find one guard, or prisoner will testify that they saw him there?

What would a credit card company have to gain by illegally deleting *their* records on behalf of Durham police?

Where did he work in Canada prior to being imprisoned, if he was here for 11 years? Why has he no record of employment to prove he was here?

He claims they erased his driver's license. What would the Department of Transport have to gain by doing that?

He claims the cops drove him to the border and dropped him off? How did they do that? Get him out of prison and put him in their personal vehicle since squad cars aren't allowed out of jurisdiction?

If so, how come a guy claiming to be an expert police surveiller, can't provide the license plate number of the car that dropped him off?

Why does he not provide ANY names? What is his wife's maiden name? Surely someone in her family would remember her being married to him.

I uploaded his video in the hopes that SOMEONE in Canada might identify him in context. He claims to have been here 11 years.

If he had just said the cops pounded the crap out of him, or set him up on drug charges--THAT might be believable. I might even buy that they didn't send in the correct paperwork deliberately.

But the rest of it? Tin foil hat time. Which makes his whole X-files story lack credibility.

Given the paperwork nightmare of bureaucracy in Canuck systems--nobody is going to tell me that he, the reporter that's covering it, or a lawyer can't find a single scrap of paper or a single witness after two years of looking.

[ 28 October 2008: Message edited by: TVParkdale ]

How would his marriage records, tax records, employment records, etc. prove or disprove his central claim, which was that he discovered police corruption and was jailed and tortured as a result?

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Originally posted by M. Spector:
Your questions don't seem to relate to anything I have read on either the Scott Loper website or in the World Net Daily. I haven't seen where either he or the government is claiming that those records you speak of have disappeared or don't exist. I haven't seen where there is any indication that the RCMP would have been involved or would have any paperwork on this. I don't see where he claims his driver's licence was "erased".

How would his marriage records, tax records, employment records, etc. prove or disprove his central claim, which was that he discovered police corruption and was jailed and tortured as a result?

I guess I didn't read everything as closely as you, because I'm reluctant to spend a lot of time on it.

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He does say that he won't name the Toronto Star reporter who was going to run the story [youtube video 2:30 apx] then, after saying that, calls the reporter "Rob'.

I find that bizarre because the Star has run dozens of articles on police corruption. Suddenly they're afraid, "I have a family"?

At 3:08 [youtube] he states that Canada says there was no record of him being there at all, "No driver's license, no credit cards and no record that I had ever lived there at all. Understandable if you are holding an American citizen you are going to delete him from government data bases."

My question is: If he was here for 11 years, why isn't he producing a single witness or shred of paper that proves his existence for those 11 years? The entire intertubes suddenly disappear or something? This is an ex cop, or so he claims.

All that's actually available is a Toronto Star mock-up [questionable], an indecipherable form ostensibly from Immigration, and a fuzzy picture of a child. A child, I might add, that he claims is missing although he didn't put the boy up on "Child Find" or other child find sites I looked for.

In my estimation, that's not proof.

Here's this huge controversy, yet in the past 4 years, not one major news outlet would touch it? This is an investigative reporter's wet dream--if there was proof.

5:23 [youtube] "I was taken to a mental facility for a three day evaluation...doctors found nothing wrong"
Which facility and who were the doctors? Nurses? Other patients? Records--which you can demand, quite easily BTW just by signing a release form. He later states "Doctors found nothing wrong, we have the medical proof of that."

Then why wouldn't he put *that* on his website as proof he was detained? The form would state that the police brought him in and the reason. Also, it would provide date and time and what the discharge plan [shelter and which one] was.

Why didn't they just send him back home to his wife after the assessment was done?

He states he went to a men's shelter. Which one? He says he called his wife from there to beg her to call the authorities, stick together and tell the truth. She said, "I can't" and then 4-5 Durham police cars showed up.

Now anyone who has ever worked at a shelter can tell you, it's just not that simple. Plus, when the police arrive there must be an incident report documented with badge numbers usually, as well as date and time. Those records are easily requested as well. Yet there's nothing on the website with that important piece of proof. Shelter workers also see a lot of police brutality victims so they tend to be cautious around protecting the residents' rights

4 or 5 police cars? [apx 8-10 cops] For one guy? For making a non-threatening phone call? Does that sound plausible to you? And how did the patrol cops get in on the scheme with the plain clothes drug detectives? Durham has 800 cops. What are the chances?

Then he claims cops threw him in the jail cell and tortured him. Then he goes onto a big Pro-American rant.

Nothing about being booked. Nothing about the court hearing or where it was held.

Right off his own website:
"He was released and served a restraining order at the same time. The restraining order was instigated by his wife, Carolyn. "

In order to get a restraining order--he has the right to dispute it in court. Nowhere does he say that he did. If he breaches it--he goes through court [even though once it's issued the police can hold him until the court hearing to determine dangerousness] He didn't say that, either.

From his own website:
"Loper was charged and convicted of violating that restraining order and sentenced to 2 years in prison. He was returned to Whitby to serve his sentence."

"While in the Whitby Jail, Loper tried to write a letter to a relative of his wife's hoping to work together to turn the situation around and bring these rogue cops to justice. That letter garnered a second two-year sentence."

Now, he's under an order not to make contact. He claims he was a cop. He can't claim he doesn't know what "no contact" means. He writes her family anyway? Right before he's going to be released?

Where is all the information from the second court case?

"Given the unknowns, the possibility must be assumed that Carolyn may be in hiding - and - due to the fact that a restraining order is still in effect, the possibility must also be assumed that this may be a decision of choice."

She would have to reapply for that order every 2 years and he would be notified. Yet, in the past four years he has not shown up for the court dates, or sent in any affidavits, etc. to prove he isn't dangerous?

While he has a story about eavesdropping illegally on drug dealing cops who dragged him off to torture him and a website you can donate for his 'defense fund'.

Was he in jail? Possibly. For catching the cops in drug deals? Unlikely.

Why drag his wife into it at all? If dirty cops wanted him, they could have just planted the dope, threw him in on a drug rap and been done with it. What court would believe he was innocent? That's been done before.

Why take him to a mental institution? Let the hospital send him to a shelter where he could freely walk right out the front door?

Then have his wife run in and out of court for restraining orders over the next 8 years?

None of it makes any sense.