They could always try to build a 40 foot copper statue of Ron Paul.

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Originally posted by Papal Bull:
Yes, they could.

They could always try to build a 40 foot copper statue of Ron Paul.

The Colossus of Ron.

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Uh, a Ron Paul statue would clearly have to be made of gold.

A more progressive stance would be to take issue with the gated communities of the yuppie crowd who want to ensure they keep out those that can't buy into their exclusive little club. The same yuppie crowd that supports the current candidates of zero change and expanded imperialism.

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What's wrong with Ron Paul?

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"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." - Ron Paul, 1992

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

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They could always try to build a 40 foot copper statue of Ron Paul.
Uh, a Ron Paul statue would clearly have to be made of gold.

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"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers." - Ron Paul, 2003 "

We have already seen discussions of 'Red States' and 'Blue States'. The US and Canada have been moving in this direction for awhile now, and there's nothing stopping it.

This was predicted by Marshall McLuhan, of course.

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MCLUHAN: Actually, in this case as in most of my work, I'm "predicting" what has already happened and merely extrapolating a current process to its logical conclusion. The Balkanization of the United States as a continental political structure has been going on for some years now, and racial chaos is merely one of several catalysts for change. This isn't a peculiarly American phenomenon; as I pointed out earlier, the electric media always produce psychically integrating and socially decentralizing effects, and this affects not only political institutions within the existing state but the national entities themselves.

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Originally posted by viigan:

I had no clue. Do you have a link for these?

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The church & state one is from an article called "The War on Religion." The other two were from the Ron Paul Survival Report, a newsletter that was published in the 90s. You can Google for lots more choice quotes.

He now claims not to have written the material in the newsletters, but he allowed similar views to be published under his name for years, so he's either a liar or just an incompetent manager. He was also far and away the favourite candidate of white power organizations in the US.

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What could be loonier than the group that are in power now?

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I'll tell you what would be worse - Ron Paul and the Paulites. Easy solutions like ethnic cleansing and the gold standard require utter fascism to bring in.

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Originally posted by Michael Hardner:

I'll tell you what would be worse - Ron Paul and the Paulites. Easy solutions like ethnic cleansing and the gold standard require utter fascism to bring in.

Paul seems like the kind of person who kept flying flags of convenience until somebody saluted one. Having an article that scapegoated African Americans in a newsletter under his own name - that alone should disqualify him.

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I don't follow how you equate the gold standard to racial discrimination.

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I don't follow how you equate the gold standard to racial discrimination.

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As I said, they're both examples of easy solutions offered by the RP phenomenon

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I also don't follow how the present power in the USA is better for african americans than paul would be. Bush may not have attacked blacks in an article, but he attacks muslims far worst than that and he does so by sending a disporportionately black military to fight them.

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What could be more racist, more fascist than the war in Iraq, supported by the establishment in both parties and 90% of the media?

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Obviously criticism of the US government is well-founded, but it's important to avoid hyperbole, I think.

Which of these is most true:

a) The current US government took place in a foolhardy and heartless war under false pretenses.
b) The current US government is evil
c) The US government is the most evil thing that ever existed

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The Fountainhead - Ayn Rand

The discovery of this book among my possessions was the final straw that led to my leaving/expulsion from the religious cult. Ayn Rand may be an extreme individualist,but The Fountainhead was a wonderful counterbalance to how I had been living,and I believe reading it provided a permanent innoculation against most forms of "groupthink"..even when I am in agreement with most of the ideas of a cause or group.

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Originally posted by viigan:
I had no clue. Do you have a link for these?

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That's what this creep reminds me of.

U.S. society is so corrupt, so vacuous, so immoral, that for every evil it produces, it then generates another evil which claims to oppose the first one.

Then they create conspiracy theories about each other.

Then they trade places and policies.

As for U.S. dollars, their value seems to be dissolving as fast as the government goes on bailing out the cut-throat hedge investors, so maybe that problem is about to solve itself... with only the nukes left to buttress the Empire.

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Considering yr great critiques against religion it's unfortunate to see you use the word "evil" when referring to Ron Paul. It makes you look like a propaganda spouting idiot. Which you are, except when talking about religion where you sound somewhat reasonable, if still a bit fanatical and rude.

For sure critique the Libertarian philosophy, but why not dump the fanatical hyperbole.

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He has raised millions of dollars from ordinary Americans rather than from corporations.

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Funny you say that since I just ran across this from a libertarian:

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...whenever I hear “Ron Paul” I grab for my wallet. The one thing Ron Paul has been consistently good at, and consistently devoted to, over the course of his career is getting people to give him money.

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Considering yr great critiques against religion it's unfortunate to see you use the word "evil" when referring to Ron Paul. It makes you look like a propaganda spouting idiot. Which you are, except when talking about religion where you sound somewhat reasonable, if still a bit fanatical and rude.

For sure critique the Libertarian philosophy, but why not dump the fanatical hyperbole.

You sound like the communist Ann Coulter sometimes and it's therefore hard for less partisan intelligent people to take yr views seriously.

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I may be missing an inside joke, but otherwise,

d00d... chill out, calm down and have an ice cream. Your post was rude and unecessary.

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It makes you look like a propaganda spouting idiot.

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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that Bob Barr, the former Republican representative who is now running in the 2008 presidential election as the Libertarian Party candidate, indicated his refusal to share any stage that has former Democratic representative and current Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney on it.

Paul was joined by McKinney, Independent candidate Ralph Nader, and Constitutional Party candidate Chuck Baldwin. Reportedly, Barr was supposed to attend the event but had a change of heart....

Barr has also asked Paul to be his running mate. Incidentally, the Libertarian candidate already has someone running on the ticket with him, Wayne Root of Nevada, but Root indicated that he would be willing to “step aside for Paul.”

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