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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Obama gave an absolutely magnificient speech, rebutting every single argument the Repugs have made against him, and, yes, he defended gay rights. On the other hand, he made a veiled threat to put American forces in Georgia to counter "Russian aggression", and he embraces nuclear power, so there are still valid concerns about him. I think he's going to be tons better than McCain on the American economy, though, if he is elected and able to get these reforms through. He alluded to MLK only near the end of his speech.

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I agree it was a great speech.

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But let me be clear: If the Republicans win after the last eight years of mis-rule, everything is on the table. The peace movement will be utterly irrelevant. They will know how far they can go without the threat of electoral defeat.

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I'm a bit nervous about Obama's reference to standing up to "Russian aggression". Who made him the world's policeman?

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Yesterday Slick Willy said that Obama will restore the USA as the world's leader.

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
And total energy independence in ten years.

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I will set a clear goal as president: In 10 years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

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Obama doesn't mind the US being dependent on Canada's tar sands oil, or oil from the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, or burning food to run cars, or massive investments in nuclear power, but by god, those goddam terrorist Ay-rabs are not going to hold us hostage any more, even if we have to conquer Venezuela to take over their oil.

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Originally posted by unionist:
Oh who cares! He's beautiful. He's eloquent. He's spiritual. I can hardly wait to have his babies!

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Originally posted by Coyote:
I agree. When and if he wins, the peace movement needs to hold him accountable to his talk about diplomacy and not sanctioning wars of choice. He is talking nonsense, and scary nonsense, about Afghanistan as well. The peace movement has its work cut out for it.

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What exactly is the "peace movement"?

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I'm a bit nervous about Obama's reference to standing up to "Russian aggression". Who made him the world's policeman?

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CNN just called this the largest gathering in American political history. Holy cow!

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I'm a bit surprised by the lack of historical references to Obama giving an outdoor acceptance speech.

FDR made a habit of doing this, using Chicago Stadium in 1932, 1940 and 1944.

- Obama's message to "white guys who usually vote Democratic but who sometimes stray over to the Republicans"

- "Progressive Democrats for America" and their impact/non-impact

- the influence of "faith leaders"

- how Democrats are preparing to attack the VP pick of McCain

and finally, this:

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Barack Obama's margin among independent swing-voting women and sporadically voting Democrats are two of the main metrics his campaign is closely monitoring, Obama's election manager, David Plouffe, said today.

Obama's internal polling suggests that McCain runs a double-digit deficit with this group runs into the double digits in some swing states. "And that's before they know about his position on choice and that he's against equal pay," Plouffe said ... He repeated, with emphasis, that the campaign does not care about national polling. Instead, the campaign's own identification, registration and canvassing efforts provide the data he uses to determine where to invest money and resources.

Other nuggets from Plouffe:

** If McCain doesn't win Colorado, "he has a 5% chance to win the election."

** Obama is over performing John Kerry with working class white voters under 50.

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Originally posted by unionist:
Oh who cares! He's beautiful. He's eloquent. He's spiritual. I can hardly wait to have his babies!

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Originally posted by M. Spector:

That's not what he said. He said:
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I will set a clear goal as president: In 10 years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

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Originally posted by MCunningBC:
What exactly is the "peace movement"?

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Secondly, Obama's remarks about Afganistan were pretty brief. I am guessing ...

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I think Obama has a lock on the election, but there's seven or six weeks left to go, and the first Obama/McCain debate is near the end of September.

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Odd how everyone makes their predictions based on who they'd vote for, rather than on the actual numbers. Obama is a long-shot to win at best. Personally I called this for the Repugs in early 2007 and unfortunately still believe McCain will win. Keep up the optimism though.

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What does the peace movement propose to do about Al Qaeda?

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Originally posted by It's Me D:
Personally I called this for the Repugs in early 2007 and unfortunately still believe McCain will win.

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The last polls I saw on CNN show Obama only one or two points ahead of McCain - although that may change after this week. BTW, does the GOP still control those Diebold voting machines as they did in 2000?

ETA: I recall reading that some states have decided not to go with the Diebolds.

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"We will change this country. We will change the world," Barack Obama said at the Pennsylvania Capitol.

Obama said "We will not just win this election. We will inspire a generation... We will change the world."

"Let's go change the world," he concluded his 33 minute speech.

Barack Obama said, "And then you and I together, we'll change the country and change the world!"

Excuse me, Barack, you're not running for president of the world. Whether you will change America remains to be seen.

The leader of the world's largest democracy is the Sikh Manmohan Singh, the nominee of the Congress Party leader, Italian-born Sonia Ghandhi. Now there's a multi-cultural nation. As far as I can find, Manmohan Singh has never promised to change the world. Wise man.

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Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
Yesterday Slick Willy said that Obama will restore the USA as the world's leader.

Do the rest of us on the planet have any say in this?

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Mahatma Ghandhi said "we must be the change we want to see in the world". As Obama likely knows, but will not likely repeat. American voters want their president to change the world.

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Obama said "We will not just win this election. We will inspire a generation... We will change the world."

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Apparently, silica-based life forms will take over from us carbon-based folks.

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At the Democratic Convention did you hear a word of serious criticism about the Bush-Cheney Gang’s domestic spying operation, or its torture polices, or its massive out sourcing of jobs, via its trade agreements? The Bush-Cheney Gang also gave us secret prisons, the draconian USA Patriot Act and gutted the ancient Writ of Habeas Corpus. Yet, the Dems were silent on all of the above.

To show that the Dems have no real intention of bringing the troops safely home from Iraq, they anointed the hawkish Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, a confessed Zionist, as Barack Obama’s VP running mate. Now, the flaky Biden is saying Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), would have been a better VP choice for the ticket than himself. Things are so bad with the Dems, you can’t make this crap up! Then, when John McCain picked Sarah Palin as his VP candidate, the Dems, and their Propaganda Machine, badly overreacted. Their vicious attacks on Palin have turned Middle America off.

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