In light of the fact that voter fraud by an Olivia Chow NDP worker was reported on the radio today I must protest. My suspicions seem to have been realised. NDP workers in at least one riding in downtown Toronto have been cheating. One has been caught.

If you wish to talk about the moral authority to govern, you should have the moral authority to run a decent election campaign in a riding.

Dead people do not have the right to vote.
People who have moved out of the electoral district do not have the right to vote.
You should not take their voter cards and make them vote NDP. If the dead person was a life-long Liberal or Conservative, you are actually offending the universal laws of Karma. You have no way of knowing whether the dead person was an NDP supporter, and apart from that, dead people are not allowed to vote.

The elections Canada voting procedure is on the honour system. Therefore, if you put a dead or moved person's NDP vote into the ballot box, you are violating the honour system. You are being dishonourable, and part of being immoral is being dishonourable. If you are immoral you have no right to say who has the moral authority to govern. Election fraud is the worst form of corruption in politics. It is this which leads to third world conditions, and disrespect by the authorities of the people.

We, the people who only vote once, demand that the volunteers and paid workers on all election campaigns, whether NDP, Liberal, Conservative, Bloc or other, refrain from cheating. Certainly, Olivia Chow should seriously think about retiring from politics because of this. Election fraud is an obscene affront to Canadian democracy, which we have faught for since before Confederation. It is also an obscene affront to the very community and culture the cheaters come from!

Upon the discovery of the immense cronyism, scandalous spending, and gross mismanagement of our tax money, I would ask you to try to put forth a platform worthy of support rather than cynically attempting to buy the votes of Canadians with our own money. While reports of election discrepancies in Trinity Spadina have been put forward, I would like to remind the Liberal party and their trolls that any allegations of wrong doing on behalf of the NDP are simply a drop in the bucket compared to funnelling tens of millions of our tax money to Liberal friendly ad agencies.

Your party has proven itself to be completely inept and unworthy of governing. That is why it will be nearly wiped off the electoral map in Quebec and will hopefully see that same fate elsewhere in Canada.

Sincerely,

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Originally posted by Screaming Lord Byron:
OK - what's the story here?

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Originally posted by RealityBites:

Couldn't find anything on google. Being should, at the very least, mentioned what radio station he heard it on, whether it was a confirmed news report or an accusation, and if an accusation, from who.

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This is a step-by-step account of how our flawed system could have been exploited to commit fraud in the election.

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Originally posted by jrootham:
Well, it would be the Liberals doing that, wouldn't it?

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Well, see, it was suggested that this was a plant from the Ianno campaign, and, you know, a common form of voter fraud involves having dead people on the voting rolls, and so ...

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Originally posted by RealityBites:
What's the point of voter fraud in Calgary??? Was there a race there that was even close?

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Why the hell did you take so damned long to post the link anyways?

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Originally posted by RealityBites:
Couldn't find anything on google. Being should, at the very least, mentioned what radio station he heard it on, whether it was a confirmed news report or an accusation, and if an accusation, from who.

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Now again, to Being: what did you hear on the radio? What station was it on? Was it a news report, or a claim by a caller on a call-in show? What was the nature of the allegation? Is there even one shred of evidence to back it up?

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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
What we found was that having our scrutineers call people out asap seemed to stop the issue. Having said that, the easiest thing to do would have been to go to another polling station to vote a second time.

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So dead people vote in Honduras and Alberta. What's new ?.

What I did see were reports of a possible investigation by Elections Canada into allegations of overspending by one Belinda Stronach in the 2004 campaign.

680News story

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Originally posted by pogge:

Somewhere on this board I wrote recently that I'd likely be gumming my food before I ever voted Liberal again. I was wrong. It won't happen 'til after I'm dead.

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Certainly when you live in an apartment this happens all the time. In my building we have a 'return mail' box to put other peoples' mail in... I am sure that box (which isn't sealed... you can help yourself) had many voters cards in it during the municipal election, and many will be there again for the federal election.

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Now again, to Being: what did you hear on the radio? What station was it on? Was it a news report, or a claim by a caller on a call-in show? What was the nature of the allegation? Is there even one shred of evidence to back it up?

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I inform the polling station staff of my situation and begin to fill out an on-the-spot registration form. They don't ask me for proof of my current address, nor do they ask for any ID.

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Then the Registration Officers were remiss. I was a DRO 2 times and we always asked for proof of address. I recall turning several people away in Burnaby-Douglas in 2000 because they were trying to vote there when they really should have been voting in Coquitlam.

The rest of the article doesn't surprise me. Any system can be exploited. However, seeing as so few people can find the time to vote once, I'm not particularly worried that many will find the time to vote several times.

If he is associated with any campaign, it is more likely Ianno's. Think about it. In the original NOW article, he makes a point of saying that he voted for Chow, even though *who* he voted for has nothing to do with what is supposedly his central point: exposing flaws in the system that could allow people to vote more than once. Now, he surfaces during the next election campaign to raise this, by writing a letter to the editor of the Star. In the current Star piece, he says that he called Ianno's office "at least half a dozen times" since the last election to bring this to their attention. If he was just trying to expose a flaw in the system, why didn't he complain directly to Elections Canada?

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All he wanted was to write a story exposing flaws in the Canadian electoral system, win some praise, and perhaps land a full-time journalist's job.

Instead, Toronto freelance writer James DiFiore has found himself at the centre of a potential fraud investigation after he claimed to have voted more than once in last year's federal election.

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Originally posted by Left J.A.B.:
Major flaw in story.
The winning party in a riding get to nominate the poll clerks, captians what have you.

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I think Being should be in a state of un-Being on babble if he doesn't answer the question. Making charges of this nature and refusing to back them up is simply unacceptable.

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Almost 10,000 showed up to vote in Trinity-Spadina who were not on the voters' list, more than four times the national average, Allison said.

It could be due to residents moving into new condos, he said. But "if there's one, is it possible there's more? If there's one, is it possible there's an organized effort?"

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No, winning party nominates DROs, 2nd place nominates poll clerks.

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Originally posted by RP.:
In other news, I heard on the radio this morning that Being is dishonest, is a disgusting excuse for a human being, has no integrity, and that he eats babies. There was a clip of him saying, "Is that a baby? Git into my belly."

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[QB]"Ianno's office is also asking Elections Canada to investigate why an exceptionally high number of voters registered on election day in that riding last year. Ianno defeated Chow by just 805 votes in 2004.

Almost 10,000 showed up to vote in Trinity-Spadina who were not on the voters' list, more than four times the national average, Allison said.

It could be due to residents moving into new condos, he said. But "if there's one, is it possible there's more? If there's one, is it possible there's an organized effort?"

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