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windsorworker
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posted 21 September 2008 01:20 PM      Profile for windsorworker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is an article of the prestev foods bunkhouse and also a picture.Presteve foods bunkhouse

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M. Spector
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posted 21 September 2008 02:00 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's the same article I linked to in the other thread.
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posted 21 September 2008 02:23 PM      Profile for unionization        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
wow....read most of the past thread and seems like everyone is ganging up on presteve foods. sounds to me everyone wants to make an example of them. yet, i bet there are countless other employers who are far worse and have been around longer; yet everyone is concentrating all their efforts on presteve.

you all are only getting one side of the story i.e - the media side. ever think about the idea that the media only tells you certain facts. you know, the facts that will get the most attention and the media doesnt care who they hurt along the way. they only care about themselves and their ratings.

we also need to get the other side of the story i.e - presteve foods and hear first hand from the employees what exactly is going on and their take on everything. my guess is most of the media is getting their facts from the union and thus one sided. we need more time to hear everything before we can make conclusions. dont you agree?

i have a feeling that if presteve foods is, in fact, found guilty of everything, we wont hear the end of it; but if they are proven innocent, they will get no appologizes and life will go on like nothing happened. thats pretty much how our society is and will always be.


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posted 21 September 2008 02:47 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're not fooling anyone with that nickname, fella.

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posted 21 September 2008 02:50 PM      Profile for windsorworker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Presteve foods deserves whatever it gets, it has already been found guilty of having a horrible living area for their workers as per the bunkhouse shut down.This owner has lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in arbitration cases it has yet to pay in full. On what seems to be a brighter note the owners son seems to be willing to change the ways of his father and has said the bunkhouse will be torn apart and a new one built. The union is currectly trying to get it's members houses to rent and are currently looking for donations of used furniture and appliances.
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it appears the media has gotten to you mr spector. what above are you questioning?
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posted 21 September 2008 02:55 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So the Thai government is now investigating mal-treatment of their citizens, and when viewing that picture of the bunkhouse, loosely called, take a look at the beds.

It appears as though they have no mattresses, or no box springs, or box springs and no mattressses. The bedding is too low in the frame and the beds look like little pens.


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posted 21 September 2008 02:57 PM      Profile for unionization        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
yes windsorworker, they deserve what they get to a certain degree. with regards to the bunk house, yes they are in violations and either they adjust the old house accordingly or start from scratch. i have no idea of these arbitration cases; can you please post a link so i can read about this.if they bunker is in fact closed, where are the employees sleeping right now? has the employer attempted to find temp. housing?
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remind, i agree with you, the mattresses look odd. but we dont know the exactly what they are, so we cant jump to conclusions. can i ask you this remind, most likely you are correct but dont most employers cut corners to save a few bucks here and there? most employers are guilty of this.

i am starting to see something. everyone here is pro-union. has any media contacted presteve for their side of the story?


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posted 21 September 2008 03:05 PM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Guess you didn't read babble's policy statement when you signed up:

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In defining itself as "progressive", rabble.ca embraces a pro-human rights, pro-feminist, anti-racist and pro-labour stance. Discussion which develops and expands progressive thought is encouraged and welcome.

And to answer your question, yes at least one paper spoke with a company rep. And the housing has been covered. From the article linked to in the first post:

quote:
Company lawyer Claudio Martini said every effort is being made to comply promptly with the ministry orders.

"Ulysses, right now, is taking care of business," Martini said. "He's right on top of it."

Martini didn't think the company would have any difficulty complying with all orders within appropriate periods of time. "They will be dealt with; they will be complied with," the lawyer said.

... With the bunkhouse closed, Laporte said the company agreed to put 13 women into a motel and transport them to work. Another 13 women using the bunkhouse have gone to friends' homes or found other accommodation, Laporte said.


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posted 21 September 2008 03:56 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh good lord, I've seen better looking prisons.

Anyway, he's gone.

Maybe you guys can find a more sympathetic forum.


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posted 21 September 2008 05:19 PM      Profile for windsorworker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
remind, i agree with you, the mattresses look odd. but we dont know the exactly what they are, so we cant jump to conclusions.
So the fact that room stacked with so many beds has only one exitdoesn't bother you? I mean if a fire started in there many lives would be taken.

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posted 21 September 2008 05:33 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by windsorworker:
So the fact that room stacked with so many beds has only one exitdoesn't bother you? I mean if a fire started in there many lives would be taken.

The person posting that to me has gone.

The reason why I noticed the beds being weird was because of how tightly packed they were. My first thought was: "if there was a fire they would have to climb up and then squeeze out", and then I thought; "huh, wait a minute, climb up, what is wrong with these beds?"


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posted 21 September 2008 05:50 PM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps the mattresses were sent out for their monthly dry cleaning?
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posted 21 September 2008 06:43 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And the woodwork is a lovely natural naughty pine. Note that toilet paper needs to be kept in the bunk. At least for Paul Bernardo, it's supplied by staff in his "en suite"

From the photo, it looks like there's not much place to keep garments either.

I recall once touring St. John's training school, just NE of Toronto way back in the day of a much more punitive philosophy of crime deterrent, and the facilities were way better. Certainly less cramped.


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posted 21 September 2008 06:48 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oldgoat:
And the woodwork is a lovely natural naughty pine.
Looks more like mischievous maple to me.

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posted 21 September 2008 07:08 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, think we should have this picture embedded for instantaneous viewing, unless like me you have dial up.

And just what were they sleeping on? As that toilet paper roll is on of the big ones and it is below the top rail by a fair amount, and the third bed down looks like it has no blankets on it, and that it is simply a plywood platform inside of the frame, as a plastic snap lid box is sitting on it

And I think it is popular poplar.


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