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'lance
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posted 10 February 2003 04:12 PM
I up and quit a truly lousy print-shop job one December day, back in Toronto. First I took, self-consciously, a "walk in the snow." Just walked out in the early afternoon without explanation, strolled over to the old campus, ran into a friend, had coffee, hung out awhile, was gone for three hours or so altogether. Walked back, gave notice. No regrets whatsoever.My financial needs were a little less than, as I was paying off only a small, not a large student loan. Still, 'twas good for the soul. As for consequences, there weren't many to speak of. The economy was pretty hot at the time, and luckily someone else who'd moved on to a better situation had already tipped me off that I might be able to come work there. And so it proved. My sense is, if you wait for a "good time to go," you might be waiting a good long time. Of course, it helps to have some other prospects, even vague ones.
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Alix
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posted 10 February 2003 04:16 PM
My partner did that the day before my birthday a few years ago. It wasn't unexpected, and I knew it was coming sooner or later. We worked at the same place (Indigo) and had both about had it. They called him into the office to yell at him for not participating in the hard selling sales tracking thing they had going. He called me at my other job (I had just graduated university and was working two part-time jobs), told me that he had had it, and was it all right with me if he just walked out.I said yes. He wrote a short letter of resignation and walked out the door. I managed to hang on for a few months longer, and gave my two weeks notice when I left. At the time that left me trying to support the two of us and our cat on two part-time jobs. We were very tight for money for a long time, and he had a lot of trouble trying to find another job. We had to live very frugally, and came very close to having to give notice on our apartment and move in with my parents, particularly when I quit my job there too, leaving me with only 13 hours of work a week to support us. Luckily I got a temp job that shortly turned into a full-time job not too long after I left. Was it worth it for him to just walk out? Absolutely. It had just gotten so bad that the stress of suddenly being the sole breadwinner was much less than the stress of dealing with him coming home grumpy every night. Heck, when I left, the prospect of no money and having to live with my parents was less stressful than staying in that hellhole one minute longer. But if you do, think about whether or not you can hold on for the two weeks to give notice. It may affect the reference you get from them when looking for other jobs. If it's bad enough to outweigh this, do it. Walk out. But have someone to talk to immediately after you do it, a friend who will help you get through it. Initially, it will be a huge adrenalin rush, but then it can turn into panic, and having a supportive friend around can make all the difference. Be prepared that it may take a while to find another job. My partner still doesn't have one, but then, he's not looking any more. I figure that since he supported me through university, I'm glad to have a job that lets me support us both so that he can work on his writing. He takes on short-term temp work every once in a while so that he has some mad money. (Temp work to tide you over is definitely something to look into - and in my case, it did lead to a job. Not the most exciting job in the world, but definitely more bearable.) It is definitely a scary move, both for you and for people around you. But if your job has gotten that unbearable, I can tell you that neither of us has ever regretted how he left.
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skdadl
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posted 10 February 2003 04:19 PM
Big Ell, I have done this several times over a whole bunch of years (most recently, last week !!!), and I have two things to tell you about my experience:1. It feels great when you do it; and if you're a serious idealist, it can feel great in memory, sometimes, occasionally ... 2. If you were thinking that you'd change anyone else by going up in flames, forget it. In my experience, that does not happen, not much. The time I walked out in greatest anger, believing that others would at least see that we were doing wrong, I affected no one else. Oh, people said nice things to me ... But nothing changed at the company, and no one else did what I had done. Instead, over the next few years, I grew to admire the few people who had managed to stay and yet maintain a position of opposition. Some of them really made a practical difference -- not a big one, but a practical one. I was just a one-day flame wonder. If you're just thinking about your own mental health, of course, that's different. My last quit (last week) was done for that reason. That's private, and as long as it's not going to cost you too much in immediate other scary scenarios, then I say go ahead. Scaling back is not a scary scenario. Freedom may be worth the price. But you have to be willing to pay, a bit, at least.
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posted 11 February 2003 04:50 AM
Quitting is a scary idea! I've never quit a job, but then that's not saying much as I'm only 21.Lately I've toying with the idea of quitting and going back to university full time. The problem is, I don't hate my job . . . I love it. My biggest fear is that I'll leave the organization, rack up a huge student loan, and then end up toiling away at some job I can't stand. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that this is silly, because if I don't take time to focus all my energy on university it'll take me forever to finish my degree, which of course is needed for any kind of advancement. And, of course, some of my attachment to my job probably comes from having a salary that makes for security and a nice, comfortable life in the short run. When I imagine myself there in twenty years I cringe. But knowing that it's silly doesn't make it much easier. I just can't imagine how I would bring up the issue with my manager and how hard it would be to say goodbye to my coworkers. Any tips on quitting a good job? That sounds so ridiculous when I write it, but I think it's going to be tough.
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Flowers By Irene
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posted 11 February 2003 05:28 AM
If you don't hate your job, you're just not trying hard enough. Don't worry, before long, management will notice.I Hate my job, but I can't quit. Now. I just have to hold out for a few more months, when I will have saved enough to quit, move back to Toronto, and finish school; of course, this will be with the assistance of my girlfriend, who is also eager to move back to TO, my friendly neighbourhood loanshark/banker -- and hopefully employment once back in The Centre of the Universe(TM). I have never quit a job without giving notice before, though this time I am tempted not to tell them* I quit until the U-haul is rented. Did I mention I hate my job? Ed. Sorry, mind faster than fingers again. Ed again to note * -- this is not bad English; I have 5 (five) bosses. Me, a lowly service sector employee, has 5 bosses. Thanks shitty union, thanks. [ 11 February 2003: Message edited by: Flowers By Irene ]
From: "To ignore the facts, does not change the facts." -- Andy Rooney | Registered: Aug 2002
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TommyPaineatWork
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posted 11 February 2003 05:34 AM
I just realized I passed my 22nd "anniversary" here at work last saturday.Time flies when you're having fun. How many sole income earners supporting children have ever up and quit without another job to go to? I doubt very much I'd still be doing what I'm doing if I was single and responsible only for myself. Having said that, however, I'm not sure what I'd be doing otherwise. I came close to quitting last year. Nothing work related, mind you. In fact, work was, and in some ways continues to be, a refuge-- the least stressful part of my life most the time. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that I was very close to quitting this job. It makes me blanch when I think of what the reprocussions would have been for those around me, that depend on me. Selfish....I don't know.... it can be argued, I think. But then, if I had such leanings I doubt very much I'd have this much seniority here. There's got to be a bottom line in who you are. There has to be things that you just won't do, positions you won't allow yourself to be reduced to.
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dale cooper
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posted 11 February 2003 11:51 AM
I will say this to people who are considering leaving their jobs for further education, but are afraid.I have a friend who wanted to do the same thing, but decided he would rather work his way up through the ranks internally at his job. A few years after his decision, he discovered they wouldn't let him without further education. He is considering going back to school as an adult, taking 1-2 classes a semester which should get him a degree in about 10-12 years. In the meantime, he has bought a house, essentially forcing a 'dependent' upon himself where he had none before, thus trapping him into continuing work. He has essentially damned himself to remain in low-level admin work for the rest of his life with no chance of promotion. All of this because he didn't want to rack up any student loans. If you are able to go back to school and want to, do not be afraid of racking up student loans. It sucks to pay them off in the long run, but it is nothing compared to what you may face with a job you hate and no chance of getting out. A few short years of toil now can really make a difference in your future. Only you have the power to change your life! This inspirational moment brought to you by dalecoopercorp.
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swirrlygrrl
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posted 11 February 2003 01:19 PM
From the wonderful world of Homer:If you hate your job, you don't strike. You just go in and do it really half ass - that's the American way! How true is this for so many of us? I don't think I'm well suited to the position I'm currently in, and an quite relieved that my contract will be up in just over 2 months. That said, it has served me well, and I'm glad to have had it for the experience and money (reason why I agreed to have said contract extended twice past original end date, in spite of my unhappiness). I wonder if I am meant to find satisfaction in the working world - the org I'm with now is very worthwhile, and in line with my values, but I'm not sure I'm cut out for office life. In spite of the fact that a uni degree was required for this job, I often feel that a trained monkey with good communication skills could do my job. I often wonder if I'd be happier as a corporate drone, where because my work isn't "important," I don't feel as much pressure. Of course, then I remember the lessons of "Office Space." In any case, I'm relieved to be ecaping the work world to go to the soft cocoon of a masters degree in the fall, and in between travel and possibly some serving in between (which in spite of all the sh*t, I like). The prospect of working for the next 30 or 40 years depresses me. Me, I've only ever walked away from one job without having an ace in the hole. It was my first waitressing job, and I'd been there for 9 months, and as I am not one to take crud from arrogant, sexist, harassing, patronizing, power-tripping, drug abusing managers, it was very clear that I needed to walk away or be fired. In spite of how hostile that environment was, I did regret it when it took me almost a month to find another position, and I had to worry about paying for school, though I knew I could always rely on the 'rents for help if necessary.
From: the bushes outside your house | Registered: Feb 2002
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animal
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posted 11 February 2003 06:37 PM
quote: If you are able to go back to school and want to, do not be afraid of racking up student loans. It sucks to pay them off in the long run, but it is nothing compared to what you may face with a job you hate and no chance of getting out. A few short years of toil now can really make a difference in your future. Only you have the power to change your life!This inspirational moment brought to you by dalecoopercorp.
Haha . Advice noted. Thanks for the encouragement . . . the thought of being stuck in the organization in twenty years is scary!! But, I'm still a chickenshit, and as such quitting scares me too. *sigh*
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Timebandit
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posted 11 February 2003 07:21 PM
I've usually had somewhere to go when quitting jobs, except on two occasions.The first, I had been working in a nursing home for 5 years, part time while attending university, and was starting to burn out. I took a temporary summer job managing and directing a touring kids' show for a non-profit. It was good for me, loved it, even though come September I was back to school and had no part time job to go to, which made it possible for me to get a free-lance writing gig through the NFB. Wouldn't have been able to do that if I'd had both a regular job and classes to deal with. The second quitting was a little protracted. I actually went on mat leave with my first kid -- 6 mos paid leave through EI, but an additional unpaid 6 mos unpaid mat leave as per the union contract with my employer. I'd been there 5 years, again starting to suffer some burn-out, and pretty sure I didn't want to do this forever. Anyway, I took the first 6 months off, and tried doing some freelance work as a writer and researcher in the film and tv biz (which I'd been involved in the alternative/arts side of for several years outside the day job) for the second 6 mos to see if it made sense to do that instead of going back. It did. The day I quit my job was scary and empowering at the same time. I sat down with the HR guy and explained that I had a serious choice -- come back to a stressful, demanding and largely thankless job, or go on an expense-paid trip to Asia to research a documentary, and invited him to guess which one I was going to go with. He guessed right. On the way out, there was a slightly panicky feeling -- "OMG!!! I just quit the best-paying job I've ever had!" -- but also, after a moment, a lightness, a feeling of freedom. I do not make as much now as I did in that job, but the choice has been the right one. It's given me more time to be with my kids, more fulfilling work and a feeling that I control my destiny, not someone else. It's working for me. [ 11 February 2003: Message edited by: Zoot Capri ]
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Lima Bean
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posted 14 February 2003 02:31 PM
As long as it doesn't last for too long, I am sort of looking forward to a period of unemployment. I've been banging my head against this wall for what feels like a very long time, and it'll be nice to give it a rest before I put it to work learning the skills and responsibilities associated with new employment.My job isn't very complicated. A lot of my tasks are repetitive and self-explanatory, they just need a person to do them, doesn't really matter much who that person is. I think they'll likely be slow to hire a replacement so there's little chance that I'll have to train my successor (if they even get one..). I don't even have ownership of any large projects or anything, so there won't be much for me to finish up before I leave. I hope. I think, to be respectful and considerate, though, and to put my anxieties to rest, I'll speak to my managers on Monday. Anybody advise against it?
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Lard Tunderin' Jeezus
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posted 18 February 2003 12:12 AM
I've quit a half dozen jobs, and been openly critical of management problems at others - thus getting myself fired as many times.I recently went through eight jobs in a three year period. Know what? There's a lot of jobs that suck out there, and the people who make them suck don't want to change. If you can live with being forced to suck, then live with it - but don't blame your wife and kids and mortgage and pets for the fact that half your waking life now sucks. If you don't like sucking, you have three choices, and only one of them is completely under your own control: leaving. Your other two choices are to try to effect change in your current job environment, or to get yourself 'shown the door'. prologue: After three uncertain years of scrambling, I've now been with a company I enjoy (with an owner I happily count as a new friend) for fifteen months. I'm using all of my sales and marketing and management skills - and for good, not evil. [ 18 February 2003: Message edited by: Lard tunderin' jeesus ]
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Lima Bean
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posted 18 February 2003 11:10 AM
I've got butterflies in my tummy. Today's the day. Or rather, yesterday was supposed to be the day, but my boss was in meetings all day and I didn't get to speak to him. I've got the letter printed and signed, I've been going over and over what I'll say...I'm just very nervous.I've quit jobs before, but I've never actually liked my boss or the people I worked with as much as I do this time. It's going to be harder to leave this shitty job than any of the others, I think. All the same, this is a shitty job. I'll be happy to be through with it. I'll let y'all know what happens when I finally get to talk to my boss (he's currently MIA--wandering the halls of the office, I suppose). Wish me luck!! (nervous tummy smiley)
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Mycroft_
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posted 19 February 2003 07:59 PM
On a related topic, Johnny Paycheck has just died. He's best known for his 1977 hit, the country ballad "Take This Job And Shove It!" (later covered by the Dead Kennedys). TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT I AIN’T WORKING’ HERE NO MORE MY WOMAN DONE LEFT AND TOOK ALL OF THE REASONS I WAS WORKING FOR YOU BETTER NOT TRY TO STAND IN MY WAY WHEN I WALK OUT THE DOOR TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT I AIN’T WORKING’ HERE NO MORE I BEEN WORKING IN THIS FACTORY PRETTY CLOSE TO 15 YEARS I’VE SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS’ WOMEN STANDING IN A POOL OF TEARS I’VE SEEN A LOT OF KINFOLKS DYING I HAD A LOT OF BILLS TO PAY LORD, I’D GIVE THE SHIRT RIGHT OFFING’ MY BACK IF I HAD THE NERVE TO SAY: Repeat Chorus THE FOREMAN IS A REGULAR SOB. AND THE NIGHT BOSS, HE’S A FOOL HE GOT HIMSELF A BRAND NEW FLATTOP HAIRCUT LORD, HE REALLY THINKS THAT’S COOL ONE OF THESE DAYS I’M GONNA BLOW MY TOP AND THERE’S GONNA BE HELL TO PAY I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THEIR FACES WHEN I GET THE NERVE TO SAY Repeat Chorus
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swirrlygrrl
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posted 09 April 2003 07:50 PM
Well, not EXACTLY quitting, but...As of the 15th of this month, my contract is up, and I'm a free woman! I accepted 2 extensions of it (though I was getting tired of it long ago), because financial stability is important to me, but I am so damn grateful to be leaving. My organization has many positives, as does my job, and I'm glad for the experience, but truth be told (no sugercoating) I can't wait to get out of here (both this job and this province). I can't wait to go back to school. I can't wait to spend a month and a half without a job. I can't wait to spend the summer working in a restaurant. I can't wait until the 15th (please, gawd, make the days fly by). On the negative side, I still have a huge load of work to finish before I go, which means I'll be putting in some (a large number of) unpaid hours before I go. It'll all be worth it though, come Tuesday...
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Pellaken
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posted 09 April 2003 08:25 PM
have you ever quit our of anger?well, let me tell you about my experinces I used to work at McDonalds. I knew I was not the fastest, and I'm sorry that I cannot go at 100% after I come back from a full day of school, but that's just not me. some of the managers CAN go that fast, and they would yell at me for being slow. sure, sometimes I'd slack off, but if I was told to speed up, I would, but when going at full speed, yelling at me to speed up wont help. anyways, here are a few experinces that really drove me up the wall, all involve the same manager. I was filling up the ice-cream machine. the manager told me to get a bag, so I did. I picked it up, and it had ice chips in it, so before I poured it in, I asked her if I could use it "this bag is full of ice, should I use it" her responce "yes, of course! " so I began to pour it, but it was near impossible. 5 minutes later she came to yell at me for taking so long. I explained the bag was full of ice. she then took over and yelled at me for using a bag full of ice. I was miffed, but not enough to quit. the next time came in one of my first breakfast shifts. I was told to do a mop. so I began to look for it. not here not there not anywhere then we got busy, so I hopped back into the kitchen to make more McMuffins. once it quieted down again, I went to look for that darn mop again. I went outside, inside, in the freezer even, and just couldent find it. again, we got busy, so I hoped back into the kitchen, etc. when I finally went back to look for the mop, I asked Mitchell (you'll hear alot more about him) where he left it. it was nowhere NEAR where it was susposta be, it was outside, around the corner. by the time I got the mop back in, I was walking towards the mop bucket, and, guess who, the manager comes up, yanks the mop out of my hand, and yells "it dosent take that long to fill up the mop bucket" I was having a bad day, no week, no month. and I almost walked out then and there. I prominently announced to her, once finished the mop, that I would not work breakfast again, and that while I'll work my scheduled shifts, these would be my last breakfast shifts. before I could get away... I was working another breakfast, and dropped an entire plate of eggs. now if you did that, you'd feel a combo of and some self and I was told to mop it up, so I said I would once I had a chance because we were busy. once we were finished bieng busy, she came back, and yelled that it dident take "that" long to do a mop, yanked it out of my hand, and did it herself. had she not did it herself, I would have quit then and there. then there was this time I was working close. I told the 3 workers that I was going to clean the floor, BEFORE cleaning a certain item. I made it CLEAR, VERY CLEAR, that I was saying this in the event the manager yelled at me. so, what happens? the mander ask me if I have the item cleaned, I say no, she tells me to do it, I do it, once she finds out the floor is not clean... yep, she yelled at me. but I had expected it so it was more funny then angry. what DID make me quit? well I quit twise. once because I realized that mitchell, who everyone agreed I was better then, made 5 cents more then me. I also realized that I was making $6.25, which is what new employees were being paied due to recent raises in minimum wage. so I "quit" by putting in my 2 week notice. by the next day, I 'unquit' the second time I quit was because I had missed two shifts, the ONLY two shifts I EVER missed outright. out of anger, mostly at myself for missing them, I announced that I was going to quit. I was planning to un-quit, but what that manager said to me totally changed my mind. on the first of these two missed shifts, it was because I needed to study for school. I told the manager who I called that I simpally couldent make it, and that I "dident care what" they did "to me". the message I was trying to get across is that school take presidence before work. the manager told me that I had said "I dont care about work" with that single lie, I said frig this, and did not un-quit. man... I ramble. dont I?
From: UPEI or at home in S-Side, PEI | Registered: Dec 2002
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Pimji
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posted 07 April 2004 11:10 PM
I quit a few jobs in my teens and early twenties. There were no repercussions for the jobs were shit. Similar to the working conditions that Pellakin tried to endure. Even if a person was a rocket scientist they would go nowhere and if they work hard and follow all the rules you end up as a robot and go nowhere to boot. Your life will be much better by not working in the fast food industry.I worked for free for a couple months when I wanted to become a dental technician. This guy was a real dink and he too had the I gotta yell ‘cause I have now social skill. When I finally started getting paid it was $5.00/hr in 1989. It was when he threatened me by saying I had a salary review coming up. I thought, you call $5.00/hr a salary? I phoned the next Monday and said I’m not coming in. What has helped me get a job I like is community college. However I’ve been slaving away at this job now, as a dental tech for 12 years and I’ve grown out of it, and I dream of quitting every day. It would be a real trade off and yes I am afraid. (Edited to add: I work at a different lab for a larger organization, not a mom and pop operation. The turkey who I originally worked for ened up losing his lab and working somewhere else. probably for a person just like himself.) It’s a shame the middle classes have sold our safety net out from under us just for the sake of a few welfare cheats in favour of real welfare cheats ie ex Ontario Power Generation executives. We can work our whole lives and as soon as we stop, whoosh, every thing we work for will fade away. There are three options for workers work hard and spend all your money, work hard and save all your money or don’t work hard and have no money. Unfortunately life in Canada is devoted to our new religion which is money. [ 07 April 2004: Message edited by: Pimji ]
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IrishMuse
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posted 22 April 2004 07:32 PM
I up and quit my job before this one. I had slipped and fell (on city property, not at work), and had torn every ligament and tendon in my ankle and calf that I could. I could barely walk, and needed physio. My employer told me I had to return to work after a week off, so I did under the condition that I wouldn't climb tall ladders (I was a manager at a small warehouse for a local gift store chain) to put items away, that the other employee (the driver/worker, there was only 2 of us there) would do that, and I could do picking, packing, and labelling. No big deal, basically it was just one thing I could not do.Well, I got so much flack from the owner (didn't help the other employee would lie and say I didn't do anything, showed up late, etc etc etc, even though he was rarely in the warehouse and would take twice the amount of time to drive deliveries than he should have), that the day she came in with a list of complaints, and listed them all off, I told her to shove her job, handed her the keys, and walked out. Unfortunately, I ended up on EI while my leg healed, and I can't find a full time job (or even a second part time job) making what I did there. $7.10/hr, and 20 hrs a week doesn't cut it. But at least I'm not harassed.
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steffie
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posted 16 December 2004 12:42 AM
I completely broke down (again) today because of my job and the stress it imposes on me. Today's was like no other crying spell - instead of in front of co-workers it was in the car after my boyfriend picked me up after work. I decided today that I can no longer bear the toxicity of my working environment. It's time to rally the troops, assess their resources, and march. I applied for a job that is more conducive to my temperament, at the local library. Even to volunteer there would be great. I also have been asked to assist a local publisher (who published moi, slight brag, tyvm. Hopefully this will grow into a more permanent position (he is moving to T-O) and needs somebody here at the headquarters. I mustered courage and called this evening and informed the manager that I would not be at work tomorrow. The day's pay is worth it for my sanity. I will spend the day asking for a note from my doctor (maybe get a leave that way?) and dropping an application off at the police department, for a comparable job at more pay and fewer hours! Wish me luck! It's a scary step but it's really time this time. If I quit outright I won't be eligible for any EI benefits. So I have to get another job - FAST!
From: What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow / Out of this stony rubbish? | Registered: Mar 2003
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radiorahim
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posted 16 December 2004 03:38 AM
quote: If I quit outright I won't be eligible for any EI benefits. So I have to get another job - FAST!
Not necessarily. There are some, albeit quite restrictive circumstances where you can quit your job and draw EI benefits. Employment Insurance (EI) and Voluntary Leaving Here's a bit from the site: quote: You are justified voluntarily leaving your job in the following situations if, considering all the circumstances, quitting your job was the only reasonable alternative in your case:sexual or other harassment needing to move with a spouse or dependent child to another place of residence discrimination working conditions that endanger your health or safety having to provide care for a child or another member of your immediate family reasonable assurance of another job in the immediate future major changes in the terms and conditions of your job affecting wages or salary excessive overtime or an employer’s refusal to pay for overtime work major changes in work duties difficult relations with a supervisor, for which you are not primarily responsible your employer is doing things which break the law discrimination because of membership in an association, organization or union of workers pressure from your employer or fellow workers to quit your job
If stress is the reason for you quitting, you might want to pay a visit to your physician and see if he/she will certify that the job is endangering your health. If you quit and apply for EI benefits, the EI folks will conduct an investigation and determine whether or not your quitting was justified. Mind you, while they spend their time trying to determine whether your quitting was justifiable you won't have any money coming in. Some of the things they will look at will be what you did to try to resolve the situation i.e. if you belong to a union, did you file a grievance or grievances? If you're non-union did you talk to the supervisor or manager and try to resolve the situation? And of course if you get turned down for EI benefits, you have the right to appeal. Very few folks appeal being turned down for EI benefits...but of the folks who do appeal, what I understand is that about 70% of folks win their appeal. Its the EI "Board of Referees" that hears your case. They're "tripartite" boards so usually you'll at least have the labour nominee in your court...and all they have to do is convince one of the other nominees. The labour movement generally does a pretty good job of training labour nominees on the EI Board of Referees. Again, the difficult part in all of this is sitting at home with no money coming in while the bureaucratic wheels grind. But please don't automatically assume that you are trapped in a crappy job with no possibility of getting EI if you quit. Its very tough, but not impossible. And again...if you get turned down, make sure to appeal. [ 16 December 2004: Message edited by: radiorahim ]
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posted 16 December 2004 03:41 AM
How fitting that I find this thread as I putter with my resume. Trouble is, I love most of my job. Another one has come open that I might love more (and pays about 40% more. I walked off of one job in my life - McDonald's. I was 14 and worked there for 7 months at the wonderful wage of $3.30/hour. I did not plan to quit - one day, in the midst of a supper rush, it was like I got tapped on the shoulder. I walked away from the grill (with 6 1/4lbers sizzling on it), told the boss I was leaving, and walked out the door. Very surreal, and I have never regretted it. He told me I'd have no reference. I was 14, what did I care. I don't think I could do that now (what with arborwoman having a bun in the oven and all).
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posted 16 December 2004 08:06 AM
quote: I walked off of one job in my life
the only time i have done this was, easily, my weirdest job: selling vacuums door-to-door in suburban toronto. we would sing songs about vacuum sales to start the day: pull dirt! 10, 20! little bit harder! 30, 40! turn them around, get their signature down! 40, 30, 20, 10, this sale's all mine!
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radiorahim
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posted 16 December 2004 01:33 PM
Glad to be of some help Steffie.What you might want to do is sit down and do a write up of what has been happening i.e. dates, occurrences, who you talked to and what you talked about etc. This will help you down the road if you do end up quitting and trying to file a claim for EI benefits. Good luck!
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posted 16 December 2004 03:37 PM
this discussion, interestingly, has rehabilitated itself with only 5 days remaining 'til the beginning of winter. i think people are mostly unhappy with their jobs in northern countries with the decline of sunshine. going to most jobs in the dark, and coming home the same, is a real back-breaker/mind-bender.so hark - 5 days until the days start becoming longer! myself - i have mostly been fired from my 38 odd-jobs in my 20 years service, but i have quit a few too. once, i did both at the same time (quit and got fired). as a 6-day-a-week bar supervisor in a busy resort bar - the season was coming to a subtle close, and i knew that my bartenders were 5-weeks away from assuming their off-season responsibilities. i timed my request for 2 weeks vacation (to perform my yearly responsibility and drive my mother back from florida), to be in 3-weeks time, and i'd be back before i lost my workers. i was told flat out - "NO!" i reasoned with my manager, saying i've timed this out perfectly, and the season is coming to a close. "NO!" so i offered two weeks notice. the next day was my only day off in 13, and i was expected to "come in and talk about it". i didn't. i showed for my next shift, sold over $3000 and was in charge of a $100,000 inventory. then closed the bar and had the floor mopped, everything perfect as usual for an anal "everything has its place" guy like me, no shirked responsibilities. handed in my cash, and was promptly given my walking papers. reason: "We want to screw you before you have a chance to screw us." nice! i kept my composure, said that "everything was done, no responsibilities shirked, hell - the floor is clean enough to lick." then, "what kind of compensation am i going to receive on my final paycheck for being dismissed without warning". "NONE. we don't have to." i shook my head in disbelief. left quietly and got drunk. last laugh - i called the labour relations board in BC the next day to tell them of my treatment. "OH! THEM! We've had numerous complaints about them. have you worked stat holidays and overtime for which you weren't paid?" "You bet i have!". "Do you have documentation?" "You bet i do!". "Fax it down." "You bet i will!!!" and i did. i got a furthur $1800.00 (minus taxes) out of the company - which paid for my 2 weeks off. and the managers had the balls to inform the staff - after banning me from the restaurant - that i was the reason why they weren't allowed to work overtime the following summer. (not that they were required to pay overtime). the hospitality industry in canada has no job security, and there are often employers who will be quick to say "you are replaceable, i have a stack of applications for your job on my desk." so the only way to approach it, for me, is to treat every day like a religious experience. work for the sake of getting the job done, not for the money. choose a place of employ that is conducive to your values, not the bank account. it is ultimately more satisfying, there is less stress, and you don't mind scraping plate, picking up chewed chicken bones, or scrubbing your arms up to your elbows after each shift, even at my advanced age. hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to work i go. 8O) (only five days until the days start getting longer)
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posted 16 December 2004 04:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by LaGitana: Thanks for that hrdc link radiorahim. My boyfriend and I are living apart - his job is in a mono-industry town that I have no hope of finding work in so I live in the city so I can at least have a job...At least now I have some avenues to check out in case he does get transferred so I can make sure I'd be covered after leaving a job. Merci!
LaGitana - i once was able to claim EI 4 years ago when my partner found a job in another region, we moved, and i was able to claim while looking for my own job: that i had to leave my job to follow my partner's career path. it should be on that website as well - and would work well for you if you decided to live together in his town. i've recently deleted the link (a testament to not wanting to ever be on the system again...). hope this helps.
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