"Harper and his tightly controlled cabinet minister, Bev Oda, are brazenly maintaining that fighting for women's equality is no longer necessary in this era. "

Poor Bev Oda, she is being controlled by Harper.

[ 07 December 2006: Message edited by: babblerwannabe ]

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Originally posted by morningstar:
We really need a status of women portfolio on its own with a decent budget and a minister for whom this is the only job that she does.
many countries are going this way as nothing else seems to work very well or very quickly.

Norway has a woman's ministry and although things aren't perfect there, they are doing better than we are.
Oda is a faithless trull and may find herself growing a penis if she isn't careful---she didn't even go to one single meeting of the House of Commons SWC committee before making any policy or budget decisions.

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Okay, that is offensive morningstar. Feminism means that a woman can hold any opinion she wants and still be considered a woman - not someone destined to grow a penis! The first Japanese-Canadian cabinet minister is a woman and happens not to believe that SWC is worth funding. She has a right to her opinion as a woman.

If we are moving past ambiguous "equality" talk, surely we should respect that women can disagree quite strongly with each other and not be called "masculine" by other women, simply due to their ideas.

[ 07 December 2006: Message edited by: EmmaG ]

Beyond equality can mean that you can be crtical of the hypocrisy of women and call them on it regardless if they are Japanese or not.

The bigger question is, of course, having a penis does NOT make you a man.

Perhaps its inappropriate to say she should grow a penis, but she is a shameful hypocrite and should know better than to turn around and oppress women. She might not have even have the chance of entering into politics if Status of Women did not exist in the first place.

Anyone who have benefited from feminism and turn around to side with the enemy is a either a dumb ass or an extremely unappreciative hypocritical and shameful person. Biting the hands that have fed you? Disgusting.

She is her own person, the article made it sound like she is controlled by Harper. If we believe in equality, than we should blame her, not just Harper. She doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to do as a woman mp in Canada.
Instead of acknowledging that feminism helped her to get to where she is and further advanced feminism, she used the privileged she received through decades of feminism and turned it upside down to prevent other women from succeeding. Isn’t that equally disgusting?

Of course, she is a woman, so maybe we should give her the benefit of her doubt. Maybe she is still oppressed by the system and we should try to make her see the light instead of criticizing her.

[ 07 December 2006: Message edited by: babblerwannabe ]

Equality means that women can never be the same kind of oppressor that men can be as far as sexism go.

So MS is acknowledging that if Oda really wants to become an oppressor, she should grow a penis.
Its her opinion and she has the right to it.

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[ 07 December 2006: Message edited by: babblerwannabe ]

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Originally posted by babblerwannabe:
Oda is oppressing other women...Anyone who have benefited from feminism and turn around to side with the enemy is a either a dumb ass or an extremely unappreciative hypocritical and shameful person. Biting the hands that have fed you? Disgusting.

She is her own person, the article made it sound like she is controlled by Harper. If we believe in equality, than we should blame her, not just Harper. She doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to do as a woman mp in Canada.
Instead of acknowledging that feminism helped her to get to where she is and further advanced feminism, she used the privileged she received through decades of feminism and turned it upside down to prevent other women from succeeding. Isn’t that equally disgusting?

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She is controlled by Harper, they all are. Welcome to our minority dictatorship!

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she didn't even go to one single meeting of the House of Commons SWC committee before making any policy or budget decisions.

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The first Japanese-Canadian cabinet minister is a woman and happens not to believe that SWC is worth funding. She has a right to her opinion as a woman.

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