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Webgear
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posted 19 August 2007 05:31 AM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Afghans celebrate independence day

"Afghanistan celebrated its independence from British rule Sunday with a military parade and colorful display of national dresses on the grounds of a stadium once used by the Taliban for public executions."

To my Afghan friends, may you have a peaceful day and may there be plentiful amounts of lamb, sweet potatoes and bread for your celebration feasts.


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posted 19 August 2007 05:46 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh yea. Well that is something. I guess the British NATO troops are keeping a low profile today, eh? Anything about when the 50,000 NATO troops, including British troops, will be leaving?

There's a clever Afghan saying that goes like this: Karzai is not President of Afghanistan. B-52 is President. I wonder if the parade of military forces included a fly past by the NATO aircraft stationed there? Mind you, what with the civilian deaths and all, it might not go over too well.


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posted 19 August 2007 05:48 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wouldn't this kinda sorta be like Puerto Rico celebrating its independence from Spain?

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Originally posted by Webgear:
To my Afghan friends, may you have a peaceful day and may there be plentiful amounts of lamb, sweet potatoes and bread for your celebration feasts.

And sumptuous banquet tables richly decked with gorgeous garlands of poppies.

[ 19 August 2007: Message edited by: unionist ]


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posted 19 August 2007 05:51 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Independence from Britain isn't nothing. But there must be some impressive cognitive dissonance going on for Karzai and others to celebrate independence from the British Empire and then, maybe the next day, talk to British commanders about the military situation in "independent" Afghanistan. Whoo wee.
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posted 19 August 2007 05:55 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It reminds me of politicians and the mainstream media in Canada. They are experts at exposing and denouncing the scandals and misdeeds of the past, and blind to those of today.
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posted 19 August 2007 07:10 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Meanwhile, "independent" Afghanistan is doing well:

Kidnapped German in Afghan video

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Private TV stations in Afghanistan have broadcast a video appearing to show a female German aid worker who was kidnapped in Kabul on Saturday. [...]

A turbaned man in dark glasses then appeared, and said Mrs Meier would not be harmed, before calling for the release of "innocent prisoners".
[...]

"We are not the Taleban, we are not bad people," he added. [...]

Police fired at the kidnappers' car as it sped away but missed it, hitting a taxi instead and killing its driver.

Saturday also saw four Afghan engineers abducted while working on a construction project in Kandahar province in the south. [...]

The incident comes amid efforts to free 19 South Korean aid workers kidnapped by the Taleban in central Afghanistan.

In addition to the South Korean aid workers, Afghan officials are also trying to secure the release of a German man kidnapped from Wardak province in June.



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posted 19 August 2007 09:22 AM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unionist

In your view, is this kidnapping in Kabul criminal or insurgent in nature? The previous kidnapping in Kabul was reported to be a criminal act.


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posted 19 August 2007 09:26 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Webgear:
Unionist

In your view, is this kidnapping in Kabul criminal or insurgent in nature? The previous kidnapping in Kabul was reported to be a criminal act.


Not sure, Webgear, it would require investigation. But I believe no insurgency worth its name kidnaps innocent civilians, foreign or native, and holds them for ransom of any kind.


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posted 19 August 2007 09:56 AM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My recently limited study on insurgences have showed that nearly all insurgents have conducted criminal activities in order to fund their anti government operations.
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posted 19 August 2007 10:03 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Webgear:
My recently limited study on insurgences have showed that nearly all insurgents have conducted criminal activities in order to fund their anti government operations.

I spoke of kidnapping innocent civilians for ransom - not "criminal activities" in general.

I'm quite sure that all resistance to U.S.-NATO forces is defined as a "criminal activity" in Afghanistan today. But I support such resistance fully. Likewise, insurgents may steal weapons or other resources from the enemy. I have no problem with that either.

You'll have noticed, no doubt, that the U.S. defines all its enemies as "unlawful combattants". That's done in order to justify violating the Geneva Conventions. You and I need to be a lot more careful with our terminology in the face of such war crimes and crimes against humanity.


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posted 19 August 2007 01:15 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They celebrate Independance Day with the first Vandoos killed in a roadsite blast today.
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posted 19 August 2007 01:55 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The German woman has been freed, apparently.

They haven't figured out how to bring the dead Québécois boy back to life, though.

What a horrendous waste of life. This murderer Harper should be sent there alone. Let him build a school and educate some women.


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posted 22 August 2007 03:25 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Two Canadian soldiers and one interpreter killed

... and two Radio-Canada reporters wounded, one seriously (requiring surgery), as well as a third Canadian soldier.

The soldiers are all Van Doos from Québec.


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posted 22 August 2007 03:32 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by unionist:
What a horrendous waste of life. This murderer Harper should be sent there alone. Let him build a school and educate some women.

He's busy trying to give what's left of Canada away to the imperialists in closed door meetings.


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posted 22 August 2007 04:25 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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two Radio-Canada reporters wounded, one seriously (requiring surgery)

So much for embedding. On the bright side, they can milk this for more stories about how they, the brave media, are the story.

I am sick and tired of douchebag reporters wearing helmets and flack jackets reporting on how brave they are, pretending they are the star in their own war movie.

Our media, including the CBC, would give Fox a run for its money in uncritical war cheerleading.


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posted 22 August 2007 08:28 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's an ill wind that blows no good:

They secured a hill!!!!

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The bomb is believed to have been planted by insurgents who were retreating from an intense battle with Canadian soldiers. The Canadians had been working to secure a strategic hill near the town of Mas'um Ghar in the Zhari district.

"I want to say that the casualties today came about at the end of the operation that was carried out," Laroche said, noting that the mission was a success.

"In other words, we had reached the target, we had carried out the mission and, in fact, they were consolidating on the target and that's when the incident happened."


The families and loved ones of the three fallen personnel will be heartened to know that we have secured a hill in Afghanistan. Furthermore, the insurgents responsible for these deaths were "retreating" at the time, another positive note.

It's astounding to me that the battle for that strategic hill had received no media coverage prior to these tragic deaths.

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Foreign raid kills dozens of Afghans: residents
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LASHKAR GAH, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Residents of a Taliban-controlled town in southern Afghanistan said on Sunday dozens of civilians including women and children had been killed in aerial bombing.

...So far between 60 killed and wounded people have been recovered and there are people who are trapped under collapsed houses," Mohammad told Reuters outside the hospital.

"It was a quiet evening and the bombardment began all of a sudden. Cattle have also been killed," said a family member of Mohammad, called Haji Saeed Mohammad.

"We can't do any thing, can't stay in our villages and can't go anywhere ... it is best for us to be killed all at once than being killed every day," he added.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070826/ts_nm/afghan_violence_dc

The British deny arial attacks while the USA is "checking", uh excuse me ,but we know they were arial bombing the area, Brits died from friendly fire attacks.

[ 26 August 2007: Message edited by: remind ]


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posted 05 September 2007 08:44 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Taliban retaking hard-won areas of Afghanistan: Canadian military

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Despite Canadian military victories that ousted Taliban rebels from volatile pockets of Afghanistan, a combination of poorly trained Afghan police and corrupt officials have led to re-infiltration of those hard-won regions, the second-in-command of the Canadian mission says.

Col. Christian Juneau, the deputy commander of the Canadian joint task force in southern Afghanistan, said that although soldiers have successfully driven insurgents out of some hotbed districts, the Taliban over time has been able to take those areas back from Afghan forces.


Our brave Canadian troops chase the scumbags out - and the corrupt Afghans let them back in.

Oh Lordie, when do we get to see the cheering crowds with the floral garlands? The young women taking a break from studying electrical engineering to come hug and kiss our brave ones?

What more are we supposed to do for these ungrateful people???


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The U.S. put something like 11, 000 troops in Afghanistan immediately after war with the Taliban. That many troops were supposedly going to find and "smoke out" bin Laden, the object of their affection for perpetrating 9-11. And they hope to train upwards of 80K-100K Afghan police and army, I guess after that they hope it will be an-all Afghan do it themselves occupation and control. This is a country that has experienced anywhere from 100K to a million plus proxy fighters, armed factions and mercenaries operating within and around its borders at various times since the 1980's.

As it was in Vietnam, not one thin U.S. dime will go toward Afghan reparations once the shine is off NATO and U.S. military encroachment on Russia and China.


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Taleban to facilitate polio vaccination of 1.3 million children

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The UN says it has begun a massive polio vaccination campaign in Afghanistan's troubled southern provinces of Kandahar and Helmand.

Taleban leaders have pledged to honour a deal to allow 10,000 health workers to immunise 1.3 million children during the week-long campaign, the UN says. [...]

[A] Taleban spokesman said the workers would be granted safe passage in southern Afghanistan to carry out their programme. [...]

"This is an incredible, happy development," said Ms Mbengue [Unicef spokeswoman in Kandahar].



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