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Michelle
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posted 18 July 2003 06:54 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just heard this on CBC Radio. The most expensive drink in the world is sold at the Ritz in Paris. If you buy a Sidecar there, you'll be paying $600 a glass.

It costs so much because it contains a special Ritz fine Champagne Cognac from 1865 that is guaranteed to have been in the hotel for over a hundred years.


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skdadl
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posted 18 July 2003 03:30 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle, I have so far not dared even to walk past the Ritz in Paris.

quote:

If you're blue and you don't know
where to go to why don't you go
where fashion sits
Puttin' on the Ritz
Different types who wear a day
coat pants with stripes and cutaway
coat perfect fits
Puttin' on the Ritz
Dressed up like a million-dollar trooper
Tryin' hard to look like Gary Cooper (super duper)
Come let's mix where
Rockefellers walk with sticks or
um-ber-ellas in their mitts
Puttin' on the Ritz

Try doing the beat on that one. It is a brain-twister.


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skdadl
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posted 18 July 2003 04:11 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmmn. I generally dislike cocktails, mixed drinks of any kind, but I just googled for the recipe for a Sidecar, and it looks, y'know, classic and tasty. It is apparently the grandmummy, or one of them, of most other cocktails.

The Sidecar


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'lance
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posted 18 July 2003 04:23 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If I had access to such Cognac, I wouldn't be diluting it in a highball.

I'm searching for the lyrics to one of my favourite Paris songs, "Give Paris One More Chance," by Jonathan Richman. But no joy. So here's a bit from memory:

quote:
If you've been to cities and you've had enough
Have you been to Paris, France?
And if don't think Paris was made for love
Give Paris one more chance
The home of Piaf and Chevelier
Must have done something right to get passion that way...

And I forget the rest. But it's a funny song.

[ 18 July 2003: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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lagatta
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posted 18 July 2003 04:28 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have walked past the Paris Ritz, along with a motley crew of friends including a gay punker and a Moroccan in a black leather jacket.

Guess that beats the proverbial "Champagne socialists", in France they say "La Gauche caviar", as champagne, while not cheap, is not as much as a luxury there as here and many ordinary people have it at a celebration.


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skdadl
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posted 18 July 2003 04:32 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where is the Ritz, anyway? Somewhere near the U.S. embassy?

I think that it featured in that Meg Whatzername movie. Splendid, yes. But do they serve couscous, I ask you.


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lagatta
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posted 18 July 2003 04:52 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, the Ritz is much more central, on Place Vendôme. I believe the US embassy is more in the west end; but I was only there once, on a demo, of course. http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2FD12055

It is fun to gawk a bit at luxe Paris, but I don't like it very much. Much prefer the type of neighourhood where there is couscous, tagine, little Portuguese and Turkish places, and old French bistros (not for the faint at heart in terms of second-hand smoke). And public markets with gorgeous cheese, even in ordinary working-class areas.

I really liked where I was staying last summer, near the Père-Lachaise cemetery and Parc Buttes-Chaumont. A bit quieter and a lot cleaner than Barbès. Rather high above the city centre, which is nice. A bit of air.


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skdadl
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posted 18 July 2003 05:12 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Smoke does not bother skdadl.

I have never had tagine, y'know. I have a recipe for it, but I have been assuming that you can't make it properly without a tagine-thingy (what are they called? just tagines?). And doesn't that require a proper kind of fire?

It has seemed to me the same logistical problem as doing genuine tandoori.


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skdadl
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posted 18 July 2003 05:19 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ye gods!

In loonies, that hotel STARTS at $919 a night!!!

And I bet that's for a broom closet. (Comment dit-on "broom closet," lagatta?)

And yes, I see the neighbourhood. I have walked all around the edges, north to the Opera, and along Rivoli. But within -- well, is not so interesting. Is definitely not the Marais, or the artisans' quarters you must have been in near Pere Lachaise.


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Doug
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posted 18 July 2003 11:57 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ouch. That much money and the reviewer didn't even like it.
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posted 19 July 2003 07:55 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like the "Young Frankenstien" version of "Puttin' on the Ritz", and always sing the monster's part.

On the subject though, does conspicuous consumption bother you? It does me, and my hypocrisy that goes along with it. I mean, I do like nice stuff too, and my material possessions, while not likely to grace the decore of the Ritz, and not all utilitarian, either, and would be less so given the income.

But, you know. $600.00 drinks? A Boxter with personalized licence plates that say "MuttDr"? (hmm, those vet bills are due to high overhead and nasty taxes, eh?)

Where's the boundry between having nice stuff and conspicuous consumption?

[ 19 July 2003: Message edited by: Tommy_Paine ]


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Michelle
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posted 19 July 2003 08:52 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I think that line was crossed well before the $600 drink, Tommy.

But I was thinking yesterday - normally I would just say, "Isn't that stupid, after a certain point a drink is just a drink." And of course, I did say that. But my curiosity was piqued - wouldn't you just love to get a taste of that $600 sidecar just to see what all the fuss is about?

Oh Skdadl, I was drooling over the description of the sidecar that you found. And this line was beautiful:

quote:
If you make the strong parts brandy, the sweet part Cointreau, and the sour part fresh-squeezed lemon, and if you shake it over ice vigorously and serve it up with a twist, you will get instant transport back to the days before vodka arrived on the scene and ruined almost everything.

Hee hee! I don't like vodka much either.

I wish I could find a "favorite drink" so I could have just one bottle of something around the house to mix it occasionally. I've had a bottle of rum and a bottle of vodka in my house for ages, and have barely touched one and haven't even cracked open the other one. I just have no "drink" that I like enough to bother.

Well, maybe that's a good thing.


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audra trower williams
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posted 19 July 2003 10:43 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did you throw a gauntlet at me, skdadl?

quote:
If you're blue and you don't know
where to go to why don't you go
where fashion sits
Puttin' on the Ritz
Different types who wear a day
coat pants with stripes and cutaway
coat perfect fits
Puttin' on the Ritz
Dressed up like a million-dollar trooper
Tryin' hard to look like Gary Cooper (super duper)
Come let's mix where
Rockefellers walk with sticks or
um-ber-ellas in their mitts
Puttin' on the Ritz.

[ 19 July 2003: Message edited by: audra estrones ]


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skdadl
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posted 19 July 2003 06:32 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha, audra!

Super Duper!!!

Y'know, even though I've got the tune in my head, I still can't make it work, looking at the words.

The only two lines I can scan easily are the bridge:

quote:

Dressed up like a million-dollar trooper
Tryin' hard to look like Gary Cooper (super duper)

But that's the only easy part.

Damn. I wish I had rhythm.


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skdadl
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posted 19 July 2003 06:38 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle, you must make the acquaintance of Lagavullin. Or perhaps Bowmore. Lafroig. And there are others. The best have no name at all.

Single-malt whiskey is so good that even a wino such as I has been able to talk self into tasting it only three times a year, no more than a wee dram each time (St Andrew's, Hogmannay [New Year's], and Burns Night).

Brandy. Cognac. Ha. Pretenders.

M'self, I live by plonk. Did you know that in France quite good plonk is cheaper than coffee?


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Michelle
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posted 19 July 2003 10:25 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh gawd no. No can drink whiskey. Girlie drinks all the way for me.
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Rufus Polson
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posted 22 July 2003 05:08 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For mainly non-drinkers, I'd like to note that a bit o' rum, brandy, cointreau or Grand Marnier in your hot cocoa is very very nice.
Note: cocoa. Not "hot chocolate". One heaping teaspoon cocoa powder, two roundish teaspoons sugar, milk at boiling poured over and stirred.

Stuff using good chocolate sauce can be about as good, but unless you've got lousy cocoa powder no better.


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drgoodword
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posted 22 July 2003 06:31 PM      Profile for drgoodword   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:
If I had access to such Cognac, I wouldn't be diluting it in a highball.

Werd.


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batz
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posted 22 July 2003 10:05 PM      Profile for batz     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I used to be a champagne socialist, but as I've gotten older, I think single-malt anarchist is more appropriate.

I don't know what political persuasion one could link over-proof bourbon to, but whatever it is, don't mess.

$600 a drink, well, if you are at a $3000 a plate fundraiser, something not uncommon in our political process, it doesn't seem all that unreasonable.


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