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Pearson
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posted 18 October 2006 12:41 PM      Profile for Pearson        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A school in Boston has just banned kids from playing touch football, and tag during recess - because it is too dangerous, someone might get hurt, and they are scared of lawsuits.


http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/061018/K101802U.html


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arborman
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posted 18 October 2006 02:11 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not sure what that has to do with the state, other than a sometimes ridiculous tolerance of stupid lawsuits.

That being said, that sort of thing is usually driven by insurance companies, who threaten to raise premiums, which public institutions cannot afford. So they have to bring in ridiculous policies.

So it's more like the nanny corporation than the nanny state.


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M. Spector
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posted 18 October 2006 02:43 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a ridiculous thread title!

Putting "nanny state" and the "US" in the same sentence is downright surreal.


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jeff house
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posted 18 October 2006 03:38 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The problem here is that the risk of being sued is of great concern to the school board, given that it has a cost in money, whereas the freedom and joy of the students has no monetary value to them.

Since no monetary value is attached to the students' right to play, the Board has no interest in allowing it.

A proper board would BALANCE the rights of the children to play against the fear of lawsuits. As a result, only those games with a high chance of causing injury would be banned.


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arborman
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posted 18 October 2006 04:27 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jeff house:

A proper board would BALANCE the rights of the children to play against the fear of lawsuits. As a result, only those games with a high chance of causing injury would be banned.


Is it an irrational fear of lawsuits, or did they already experience one that cost them a lot? If so, what did their insurance provider say?

Again, I suspect the board may not have had much choice. I knew some teachers who were caught up in a similar situation in Alberta, where the school board's insurance provider insisted that all playgrounds be flattened and replaced with new ones. And they took a lot of flak for doing it, but they couldn't operate without insurance.

The monetary value of children playing is immeasurable, but I think this story is probably a bit more complex than the news piece lets on.


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Abdul_Maria
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posted 18 October 2006 07:27 PM      Profile for Abdul_Maria     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i played touch football and tag during recess - and look how i turned out.
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