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Snuckles
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posted 08 September 2006 04:24 PM
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VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Benedict XVI hit out Friday at Canada's laws allowing same-sex marriage and abortion, saying they result from Catholic politicians ignoring the values of their religion."In the name of `tolerance' your country has had to endure the folly of the redefinition of spouse, and in the name of `freedom of choice' it is confronted with the daily destruction of unborn children," the pope told a group of bishops from Ontario. Such laws, he said, are the result of "the exclusion of God from the public sphere." He lamented that Catholic politicians yielded to "ephemeral social trends and the spurious demands of opinion polls."
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otter
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posted 08 September 2006 05:52 PM
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He lamented that Catholic politicians yielded to "ephemeral social trends and the spurious demands of opinion polls."
Indeed! How dare these rogue politicians who have lovingly shepherded the misbegotten Canadians for so long suddenly start responding to the wishes and needs of their followers? Its a good thing the church is here to tell us how to live our lives since God seems to have abdicated the task. I think the only recourse left is for the Popester to abandon us all to the consequences of our ignorance and eternal damnation. It would at least be a lot quieter around here. 
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otter
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posted 10 September 2006 04:32 PM
Doh, your right, it is uiversal and one still needs the "roman" part to distinguish it. BTW, does anyone else see a resemblance to colonel Klink in this new popester albeit a bit aged? [ 10 September 2006: Message edited by: otter ]
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jeff house
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posted 10 September 2006 06:03 PM
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Such laws, he said, are the result of "the exclusion of God from the public sphere."
The Pope has his version of God. But others believe in another version, or none at all. So those people wouldn't be too comfortable with the values of someone else's God being imposed on public law and practice. Religion should be separated entirely from the state and from government.
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unionist
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posted 10 September 2006 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
[QB]I forget who it was, but someone from that Ontario delegation at the Vatican said quite forcefully on CBC yesterday that the Canadian Constitution or Charter (I forget which) says (and I'm paraphrasing here) that this country was founded under God and on the rule of law - and is using that "under God" as an excuse to push the politicians in Canada to start listening to what the Church says.
Yeah, that "supremacy of God" stuff was a hasty afterthought. It was added to the preamble when the Constitution was "patriated" in 1982 (it was never there before). When Svend Robinson read a constituents' petition asking for it to be removed, the NDP leader banished him to the back benches. It was the first time that a country was founded under the supremacy of God retroactively!  Also, God was conspicuous by her absence from "O Canada" until the words were re-written under Lester Pearson. The line, "O Canada, glorious and free" morphed into: "God keep our land glorious and free." The same happened in the U.S., the birthplace of separation of church and state. It was only during the Cold War, in 1956, that Congress declared "In God We Trust" as the motto of the U.S., replacing "E Pluribus Unum" ("Out of many, one"). And you all know how well God has been doing in the U.S. of A. ever since.
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