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Saint Luke
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posted 18 January 2005 11:52 PM      Profile for Saint Luke     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I am looking for responses to my questions below. I seek out all persons of goodwill to respond in haste to any or all these questions...

Is law an appropriate arbiter in determining who is or who is not a human being?

Who here fails to recognize that for several months of your life, you were protected in the safety of your mother’s womb?

Is it true that the product of human conception is always a human being, absent natural disaster or lethal intervention?

If the strong have the right to declare the innocent and vulnerable outside the bounds of legal protection, should we all have much to fear?

Does abortion follow the contraceptive mentality like night follows day? Is failed contraception the primary reason for abortion?

Does the license to abort one's own child support the irresponsible male tendency in our culture to treat women as objects of sexual gratification and pleasure to the exclusion of moral norms or a respect for human life?

When will our society be one where every child is protected in law and welcomed into life?

When will women cease to shoulder the disproprtionate brunt of the intense physical, psychological and spiritual trauma associated with the destruction of unborn human life in her own womb?

Was it not his Holiness Pope John Paul II that wrote, "The acceptance of abortion in the popular mind, in behaviour and even in law itself, is a telling sign of an extremely dangerous crisis of the moral sense, which is becoming more and more incapable of distinguishing between good and evil, even when the fundamental right to life is at stake. Given such a grave situation, we need now more than ever to have the courage to look the truth in the eye and to call things by their proper name, without yielding to convenient compromises or to the temptation of self-deception."??


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remind
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posted 18 January 2005 11:54 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
heh, Luke what do ya think about the Iraq War?
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Saint Luke
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posted 19 January 2005 12:01 AM      Profile for Saint Luke     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
remind wrote
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heh, Luke what do ya think about the Iraq War?

I think there are some diabolical parallels between terrorists who kill innocent Iraqi civilians and abortionists who kill innocent human beings in a woman's womb......


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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 19 January 2005 12:02 AM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The abortion debate is framed from two perspectives. One is the feminist side, in which the woman has the ultimate control and right to control over her body. The other is the life side, which says that the life of the unborn supercedes any rights of the mother.

By posting in the feminism forum, you kinda answered your own questions.


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Reality. Bites.
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posted 19 January 2005 12:02 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post
Guess you missed the part about "Discuss feminist issues from a pro-feminist point of view."

The only thing pro-feminist about the pope is that unlike most men, he doesn't mind being seen in a dress.


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Jingles
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posted 19 January 2005 12:03 AM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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When will women cease to shoulder the disproprtionate brunt of the intense physical, psychological and spiritual trauma associated with the destruction of unborn human life in her own womb?

The day you get pregnant. Until that immaculate conception happens, mind your own damn business.


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audra trower williams
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posted 19 January 2005 12:06 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ding ding ding!
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posted 19 January 2005 12:07 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post
This guy does nothing but paste religious spam.
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Saint Luke
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posted 19 January 2005 12:08 AM      Profile for Saint Luke     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
HeywoodFloyd
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The abortion debate is framed from two perspectives. One is the feminist side, in which the woman has the ultimate control and right to control over her body. The other is the life side, which says that the life of the unborn supercedes any rights of the mother.
By posting in the feminism forum, you kinda answered your own questions.

This type of division is popular by those who wish to maintain the status quo. It is not cogent or convincing just like labelling Christians as liberal or conservative is neither cogent nor convincing..... All it does is promote a separation between parties to the exclusion of enlightened discourse...

You make it sound like all feminism supports that a woman can destroy her unborn child for any reason at any time during her pregnancy. This is a radical and very narrow feminism... I am a pro-life feminist (not to be confused with effeminate) as evinced by my first contribution above in asking questions about why women are disproprtionately experiencing risks and suffering.....


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