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Topic: Talking seriously about race and gender bias
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martin dufresne
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posted 07 April 2008 08:42 AM
from a women who has paid her dues, Madeleine Kunin, former three-term governor of Vermont. America, let's talk seriously about race and gender bias, Boston Globe, April 6, 2008 SENATOR BARACK Obama spoke courageously and thoughtfully last month about the history and legacy of race in America. It is a speech that will be remembered. Now we must start a conversation about gender in America. Neither blacks nor women were seriously considered to be worthy of the vote when the Second Continental Congress met in Philadelphia in 1776. Abigail Adams addressed the role of women when she wrote to her husband John Adams: "Remember the Ladies and be more generous and favorable to them than your ancestors. Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of the Husbands. Remember all Men would be tyrants if they could." Adams's reply was not helpful: "As to your extraordinary Code of Laws, I cannot but laugh." It is inaccurate and incendiary to equate women's lack of rights with those of enslaved blacks. Yet, there are some parallels. Married women were considered the property of their husbands. They had no right to their own money or real estate. Divorce was nearly impossible and seldom sought because mothers would have to give up their children. Both marginalized groups have experienced centuries of struggle to achieve full citizenship, a struggle that is far from over. (...)
From: "Words Matter" (Mackinnon) | Registered: Dec 2005
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martin dufresne
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posted 07 April 2008 09:11 AM
Excellent point. And now things may be about to get a LOT hairier for race/gender pundits: quote: Strategist: Rice eyeing VP spot on ticket April 6, 2008 at 3:59 PMWASHINGTON, April 6 (UPI) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has exhibited interest in becoming John McCain's vice presidential running mate, a Republican strategist says. Dan Senor revealed during Sunday's edition of ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" that Rice has been seeking support to be considered for the No. 2 spot on the Republican ticket this fall. "Condi Rice has been actively, actually in recent weeks, campaigning for this," Senor said.(...)
Rice eying VP spot on ticket
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500_Apples
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posted 07 April 2008 04:11 PM
Rice is probably the most qualified, or at least one of the three or four most qualified, republicans to be vice president. There's been a lot of blogosphere discussion on possible republican veeps. There were some comments that the repub governor of alaska is an attractive woman and moderate, or that JC Watts might be interested (He's a high-profile black congressman). Other names mentioned include the republican governors of florida and minnesota, and also Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee. Now that I think of it, Rice might very well be the best choice for McCain. [ 07 April 2008: Message edited by: 500_Apples ]
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500_Apples
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posted 07 April 2008 06:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by remind: Feminism forum 500_apples? I thought you had realized your mistake when editing your post out, and now see you posted another one in the edited out one.
It would be very appreciated if you stopped stalking me around the forum, with your incessant, interminable rage and hatred for me. The above post was edited because i was replying to two posts at once, and put one response in the wrong box. This didn't look like a feminism forum thread from the title, nor from the responses, as it was an interdisciplinary topic that didn't fit in a specific category. Likewise, if someone wrote a topic on Roger Federer, and put it in the feminism forum, I wouldn't know. A lot of people browse the TAT, and not everybody checks the forum in that little writing at the top every single time. But you're right, oldgoat did ask me to not post in the feminism forum and has not taken back that request, so I'll stop replying in this thread, unless someone responds to my posts. [ 07 April 2008: Message edited by: 500_Apples ]
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