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Topic: "Booty-Calls", feminist perspective?
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Canadian Revolution
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posted 23 September 2005 04:09 AM
I'm just curious as to what the 'feminist perspective' is on "Booty-Calls"?For those not in the know, a Booty-call is basically (for example) a guy using a woman for sex whenever he wants it. For some women, they themselves prefer it that way, for others...they lack self-esteem and are hoping that it'll be 'Booty first...relationship later'. Women also use men for booty-calls, but the classic case if generally a guy knowing of several women he can 'rely on' during the week. For myself, I've had several women I mainly just keep on my speed-dial for a booty-call on a Saturday night. Especially if I went out on a date that didn't go anywhere, as soon as Ms. "I don't do anything on a first date" says "thanks for the wonderful night...", I'm immediately on my cell calling up my Booty-Call list. By re-arranging the numbers on my speed-dial list, I'm now able to get a booty-arranged within the first couple calls. Easier access gets higher on my list...harder-less available ones (girls with boyfriends) lower on the list. Thanks to Apples 'iSync' I can now arrange/spreadsheet all of the numbers, categorize their abilities, location etc. I have it down to a science. Saves me time. Sometimes if I think the date is 'going south', while she's gone to the bathroom, I'll simply call up a few and make arrangements right there in the restaurant. Anyhow, your two-cents (besides the usual condemnation) would be interesting to hear. [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: Canadian Revolution ]
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disobedient
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posted 23 September 2005 08:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Canadian Revolution:
Are you a feminist? I'm just wondering if Feminists are for or against Booty calls. A *lot* of women do the same, and thus you could say that this is 'empowerment'
Well, since this is the feminism forum and you started a thread in it, how about you answer your own question?
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v michel
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posted 23 September 2005 10:16 AM
I'm just curious as to what the 'feminist perspective' is on wicker lawn furniture? For those not in the know, wicker lawn furniture is constructed of little bits of wood and is basically for use in the lawn. For some women, they themselves prefer it that way, for others...they prefer other kinds of furniture.Some men enjoy a nice piece of wicker, but the classic case if generally a woman selecting it for herself. For myself, I've had several nice pieces of wicker lawn furniture I mainly just keep in my garage for use when the weather turns nice. Especially if I went out on a date that didn't go anywhere, I might want to run home and curl up in wicker chaise lounge with a good book instead. By re-arranging the furniture in my garage, I'm now able to pull out the piece I want within the first couple tries. Easier access gets higher on my list...harder-less available ones (like the really heavy table) lower on the list. Thanks to Apples 'iSync' I can now arrange/spreadsheet all of the pieces, categorize their abilities, location etc. I have it down to a science. Saves me time. Anyhow, your two-cents (besides the usual condemnation) would be interesting to hear. What do feminists think of wicker lawn furniture? What's the feminist perspective? [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: vmichel ]
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belva
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posted 23 September 2005 11:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by vmichel: I'm just curious as to what the 'feminist perspective' is on wicker lawn furniture? For those not in the know, wicker lawn furniture is constructed of little bits of wood and is basically for use in the lawn. For some women, they themselves prefer it that way, for others...they prefer other kinds of furniture. Anyhow, your two-cents (besides the usual condemnation) would be interesting to hear.
What do feminists think of wicker lawn furniture? What's the feminist perspective? [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: vmichel ]
Well, as a classic feminist in the Susan B. Anthony tradition, my concern is that women use wicker furniture as they see fit, without having to surrender their own autonomy to other styles or uses. Lovely, vmichel, just lovely! You go, grrrl!!!
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bigcitygal
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posted 23 September 2005 11:16 AM
Feminists Against Wicker! Support group meeting and rally details to be announced.(Wicker looks nice but I hate how it pokes my butt and other sensitive sitting areas. ) Now, those wicker reindeer that we see on people's lawns in the winter, all feminists are in favour of those, if I'm reading the minutes of the last "Feminists and Wicker Oppression" conference correctly. [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: bigcitygal ]
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v michel
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posted 23 September 2005 11:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by writer: And anyway, what is the book you curl up to read? Anything short of The Female Eunuch, well ...
I am currently writing my own book: The Guide to the Feminist Position on Everything. It was too confusing going to the bookstore and seeing so many books in the "Women's Studies" section. They all had these different authors and different opinions. I saw the need for a quick reference guide, one where I could look up "oranges" or "post-colonial theory" or "300-count thread sheets" and read the final, definitive, feminist position on the subject. I have to say, these responses about wicker are not very helpful. Im fact, they are downright contradictory and would take up most of the 3 pages I have alloted to Wi-Wo. Would the real feminists here please stand up and identify yourself, so I know which position to take?
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posted 23 September 2005 11:40 AM
I'm Fem-Lady, yes I'm the real Lady All you other Fem Ladies are just imitating So won't the real Fem-Lady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up?(Props to feminist icon Eminem.) [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: writer ]
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Cartman
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posted 23 September 2005 12:11 PM
quote: I am currently writing my own book: The Guide to the Feminist Position on Everything.
You know seriously, that would make a GREAT title and it could be sooo helpful. I mean, what is THE feminist stance on remote controls with more than 20 buttons? Times New Roman vs Courier? Why do feminists always come in "bunches"? OK now, really, truly, seriously. If I were to present such a title to a university class(es) with a straight face, what percentage of the class(es) would believe such a book exists? Any takers? [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: Cartman ]
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Timebandit
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posted 23 September 2005 12:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by bigcitygal: Feminists Against Wicker! Support group meeting and rally details to be announced.(Wicker looks nice but I hate how it pokes my butt and other sensitive sitting areas. ) Now, those wicker reindeer that we see on people's lawns in the winter, all feminists are in favour of those, if I'm reading the minutes of the last "Feminists and Wicker Oppression" conference correctly. [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: bigcitygal ]
For pity's sakes, bcg, LEAVE YOUR CLOTHES ON. It can't poke your butt with your clothes on. Or invest in some nifty throw cushions. I have a wicker love seat and chair. The chair was painted and taken out to the front porch this spring. It is my favourite chair, it has just the right shape -- you know how some chairs "fit" and others don't? The love seat is currently in use just inside the front door as Kali's bed. I may have to paint it, too, one of these days, as it's gotten kind of doggy... Still, Kali and I stuck a compromise when she moved in -- she can have the wicker couch as long as she stays off the rest of the furniture. Can't renege now that she's such an old girl, so it's hers as long as she's with us.
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chubbybear
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posted 23 September 2005 02:05 PM
Please ignore that previous poster. He has been dealth with appropriately. Of course as good Canadians, we only seat ourselves on logs.(to the "Slinky" tune) What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs Rolls over your neighbor's dog? What's great for a snack and fits on your back? It's Log, Log, Log! It's Log, Log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood. It's Log, Log, it's better than bad, it's good! Everyone wants a log! You're gonna love it, Log! Come on and get your log! Everyone needs a Log!
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posted 23 September 2005 02:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by belva:
I see five women standing, all taking different postions.
*Must...resist...cheap...double...entendre...*
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skdadl
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posted 23 September 2005 02:59 PM
*brief drift for a flirt*chubbybear, you wouldn't happen to be a log-drivin' man, would you? *flutter flutter* */brief drift for a flirt*
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 03:28 PM
Never mind wicker for the moment -- what's the Feminist PositionTM on the imminent release of the remade Wicker Man?The movie fan's position -- at least, this movie fan's position -- is that it's not likely to make sense in an Americian context. (But then again, how much sense did the original make? Hmmm... better re-think this...)
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bigcitygal
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posted 23 September 2005 03:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by chubbybear:
What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs Rolls over your neighbor's dog? What's great for a snack and fits on your back? It's Log, Log, Log! It's Log, Log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood. It's Log, Log, it's better than bad, it's good! Everyone wants a log! You're gonna love it, Log! Come on and get your log! Everyone needs a Log!
[thread drift] Um, chubbybear? When my sweetie and I were first dating he "courted" me with that song. And it made me swoon, let me tell ya! Still does... [/end thread drift] And Zoot, it's none of your beeswax if I want to sit nekkid and be ONE WITH WICKER. Ouch ouch! teehee!
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posted 23 September 2005 03:38 PM
quote: Never mind wicker for the moment -- what's the Feminist PositionTM on the imminent release of the remade Wicker Man?
Here we go again. A man trying to dictate to us Fem Ladies what we should talk about. And, surprise surprise, it's about *another man* - a *Wicker* Man, to boot! The nerve.
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 03:43 PM
Unabashedly, writer. And what's more and to boot, and too besides, a forty-foot tall man. (Link contains plot spoilers). Edit: The original, of course, involves a community of people who worship a giant phallus. Why do I get the feeling that little detail won't make it into the USian remake? [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: 'lance ]
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 04:13 PM
Right, now back to this Fem Ladies stuff:Are you saying, writer, that gyus can't be Fem Ladies? Hmmm? If so, it's just another case of Oppressive, Stalinist, Politically Correct FeminismTM.
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 04:39 PM
quote: Oh, wait a minute, I'm not standing.
If you won't stand for something, writer, you'll fall for anything. Nutty liberal ideas like gnu control, for example. I mean, really.
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posted 23 September 2005 04:46 PM
From Google: quote: Wicker Man: Information From Answers.com Wicker Man A wicker man is burned as part of possibly traditional Gaelic or possibly ... This article is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. ... www.answers.com/topic/wicker-man
GNU ... wicker ... man ... accident ... conspiracy ... one more example of male oppression, what with all of you all's "gnu gnu gnu" and more "gnu"? Notice that you've completely silenced the women. Google ... goggle ... oggle. Ack, you make me sick! [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: writer ]
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 04:50 PM
quote: man ... accident ... conspiracy ...
Spoo-ky, indeed. Why, just look at the thread tie-in. Coincidence? I think not!
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 05:10 PM
quote: I'm sorry, that response must be posed as a question.
Dude, I was playing Alex, there. (I even have the mustache*). The correct response would have been: "Who co-starred with Warren Beatty in his movie preceding The Parallax View?" that is, McCabe and Mrs. Miller. (*I don't, of course, but I think he should have kept his. He's one of the few men who can carry it off. One of the four or five, I mean).
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 05:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by chubbybear: I'm sorry, that response must be posed as a question. [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: chubbybear ]
Looking good, Mr. Kott-air! Edit: I don't know how old that picture is, but he looks like a one-time student radical trying to go straight (in the 1960s sense) in about 1974. [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: 'lance ]
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 05:32 PM
quote: It starts off with long-winded narration telling us how man's discovery of the wheel needs to be revised for new space-age travel. Then we have more narration, this time by Peter Bogdanovich, in the first person. It seems that in 1998, two astronauts went to Venus, along with a mechanical man known simply as "Robot John," who looks like a cross between Robby the Robot and the robot in The Phantom Creeps (1939,) and talks like Stephen Hawking. In the year 2000, three more astronauts go to Venus to try to find the first two. "This is truly a prehistoric planet," one of the them marvels in the new dubbed-in dialogue.
Uncanny, how well Bogdanovich predicted the future 30 years out. Why such prescience hasn't translated into true directorial stardom, I'll never know. quote: Mars needs womyn.
And, if Mars, proverbially, needs guitars: it follows that the womyn -- though perhaps that should be "grrls" -- need guitars. QED. [ 23 September 2005: Message edited by: 'lance ]
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'lance
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posted 23 September 2005 05:48 PM
Good grief, how could I have forgotten that.Oh, I know -- I repressed the memory. The Bloor Cinema, autumn 1982. That's $2.99 I'll never see again -- and in 1982 dollars, too.
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