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audra trower williams
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posted 09 July 2002 05:08 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Man, it is so hard to live down that sugar-and-spice rep. We women try, Lord do we try, and still people are shocked -- shocked! -- when we are mean to each other, humiliate our partners, scream at our children, spread nasty rumors, lie on our résumés, embezzle from our employers, demean our employees, give slower drivers the finger, have extramarital affairs, commit murder, enter the military, join the Aryan Nation or the Islamic Jihad, and fail to send Christmas cards to the family. How dare women behave like ... like ... people?

How, indeed!


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Timebandit
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posted 09 July 2002 05:47 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The "sugar and spice rep" has always been a construct of what girls "should" be and not what they are...

Girls can be cruel -- No kidding?!!


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Sine Ziegler
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posted 09 July 2002 07:05 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has anyone else noticed that little boys are nice and sweet, but little girls are snooty bitches?
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Timebandit
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posted 09 July 2002 07:14 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not really. Especially not the sitter's son who routinely attacks and beats on the girls in his mother's care... (We're looking for a new place for Ms B...)

Kids are kids. People are people. Some are nasty, some are not, most are somewhere in between. It's just the shock and surprise that gets generated when girls (and women) don't live up to the pedestel-inspired image that irritates me.

I have been known, from time to time, to bring the bitch out of the closet when I need her. Very useful facility, that...


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posted 09 July 2002 08:16 PM      Profile for bittersweet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do go on about your emotional triggers, Zoot...I am all ears, mwahaha...
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Timebandit
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posted 09 July 2002 10:05 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, being mean and all, it's hard to find a chink in the armour...

Edited to add:

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I am all ears, mwahaha...

You're Mickey Mouse's evil twin?! Who'da thunk!

[ July 09, 2002: Message edited by: Zoot Capri ]


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DrConway
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posted 09 July 2002 10:12 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've always found that girls (well, I should say women, but... there's the thread title) have the ability to gain a more nuanced understanding of just about anything.

Just about every left-winger I know in the virtual world tends to more often than not be a woman.

And even a quick check of voting patterns reveals that generally women vote left more so than men.

So I'm not sure what makes women be mean to each other.


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Timebandit
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posted 09 July 2002 10:15 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Competition, mainly. We're taught to be competitive without being openly competitive. The contradiction makes for some incredible internal conflict, which is enough to bring the mean out in just about anybody.
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DrConway
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posted 09 July 2002 10:41 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah! *insert light bulb turning on over head*

Thank you.


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nonsuch
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posted 09 July 2002 11:27 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's always been there, it just used to be disguised a lot better. In the old days, we had to be sneaky-mean, which required patience, subtlety and a superior command of language (both verbal and body) rather than in-your-face mean, which requires only malice.
I prefer the old way: it gave me a chance to exercise all my best talents: observation, inductive reasoning, pattern-recognition, timing and insinuation. Now that meanness is flaunted and glorified, any crude idiot can practise it. Takes the challenge right out.

[ July 09, 2002: Message edited by: nonesuch ]


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clersal
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posted 10 July 2002 01:04 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think girls can be very mean to other girls which sometimes carries through into adulthood. This is sad.
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nonsuch
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posted 10 July 2002 01:07 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sad and stupid and short-sighted. Who you gonna call when you need help?
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posted 10 July 2002 01:24 AM           Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
girls are cool...i love 'em. especially the mean and nasty ones!

bring 'em on!


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posted 10 July 2002 01:47 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hope they resurrect Frank soon.

[ July 10, 2002: Message edited by: clersal ]


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shabbadoo
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posted 10 July 2002 01:54 AM           Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
awww heck, i'm havin' fun here tonight!
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posted 10 July 2002 01:57 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am in a kind mood.
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nonsuch
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posted 10 July 2002 02:19 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
pooper
we're doing unkind now
i wish it were not so
but bucking the trend
is uncool
and
uncool is
social death

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shabbadoo
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posted 10 July 2002 02:24 AM           Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
is this the haiku section?


pooped out
red, rough and sore
drinkin' too much Red Cap


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Michelle
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posted 10 July 2002 03:05 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You need about 5 more syllables there.
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skdadl
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posted 10 July 2002 09:55 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like to think that I only get nasty precisely when people are expecting more of me because I am a woman and therefore must be endlessly patient and understanding and empathetic ... which, of course!, I am!!! -- but only if I'm allowed to volunteer for those tasks, eh? (Does anyone else follow that logic?)

quote:
it gave me a chance to exercise all my best talents: observation, inductive reasoning, pattern-recognition, timing and insinuation. Now that meanness is flaunted and glorified, any crude idiot can practise it. Takes the challenge right out.

Hee hee. I think there's still some general truth in the claim that dependence makes people more psychologically acute and subtle, and so many women were dependent for so long. Maybe things are changing; do we think things are changing? My women friends are all still pretty subtle, mainly in the good, empathetic ways -- but I still see the odd scalpel artfully inserted now and then.


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N.R.KISSED
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posted 10 July 2002 10:34 AM      Profile for N.R.KISSED     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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You need about 5 more syllables there.

Don't tax the poor creature Michelle anymore than two syllables and they're clearly flundering.

I didn't realize Koko had learned to use a computer.


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Timebandit
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posted 10 July 2002 07:23 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I prefer the old way: it gave me a chance to exercise all my best talents: observation, inductive reasoning, pattern-recognition, timing and insinuation. Now that meanness is flaunted and glorified, any crude idiot can practise it. Takes the challenge right out.

My mother still practices mean the old fashioned way.... Ouch!

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...because I am a woman and therefore must be endlessly patient and understanding and empathetic ... which, of course!, I am!!! -- but only if I'm allowed to volunteer for those tasks, eh? (Does anyone else follow that logic?)

I absolutely do. It's much easier to put the effort into it if it at least looks like you have a choice.

You know, thinking of mean things other women have done to me, I think the majority were very underhanded and certainly were not direct. Direct mean I can handle. Sneakiness is definitely worse.

I only, for the record, do direct mean.


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