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Wilf Day
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posted 21 February 2004 02:07 AM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
By my estimation, of the top 21 ridings where the NDP has already nominated or the incumbent is standing again, 9 have female candidates, about 43%. Quite good, I think.

That's Alexa McDonough, Susan MacAlpine - Gillis, Peggy Nash, Irene Mathyssen, Judy Wasylycia - Leis, Bev Desjarlais, Lorene Mahoney, Libby Davies and Jean Crowder.

Should others be added?


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Bill Haydon
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posted 21 February 2004 10:33 AM      Profile for Bill Haydon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sure you will be able to add Netty Weibe to that list soon.
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radiorahim
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posted 21 February 2004 02:14 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that the under representation of women, visible minorities, First Nations, etc. is also a good argument for proportional representation.

I think that party "lists" in a P.R. system would allow the parties to correct many of the problems that are inherent in FPTP.


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Wilf Day
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posted 21 February 2004 04:22 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by radiorahim:
I think that party "lists" in a P.R. system would allow the parties to correct many of the problems that are inherent in FPTP.

True, but it's not the whole answer.

Suppose Saskatchewan had eight local seats and six provincial at-large MPs. Suppose the NDP won five of the local seats and got 36% of the vote. The NDP share of the 14 seats is five seats. If it did that well in the local seats, it doesn't qualify for any MPs from the provincial list. Unlikely, but possible. More likely it would win three local seats and two from the provincial list. Knowing the NDP, that would be one man and one woman from the provincial list, if it was "zippered" (alternating men and women.) In fact, if the three local seats were all won by men, and the same men had top positions on the provincial list, the "top-up" process would skip over those men and give the two list positions to women.

But it's still important to nominate women in local seats.


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radiorahim
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posted 21 February 2004 07:34 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It depends on the P.R. system that's used of course...whether its a "pure" system or some kind of MMP system.

I tend to think we'd probably end up with an MMP system of some sort as you suggest.

Of course in an MMP system it would be very important to run women and other under represented groups as "local" candidates too

And I don't think it would be necessary to "zipper" the "list" candidates...could just make sure that the under-represented groups were at the top of the "list".

That might result in women being the majority...but hey...nothing wrong with that...men have been the majority for the last century.


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Jesse Hoffman
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posted 21 February 2004 07:51 PM      Profile for Jesse Hoffman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of the things I find most encouraging about these statistics, is that all these women are very strong candidates in very winnable ridings.

I think that, Alexa McDonough, Susan MacAlpine - Gillis, Peggy Nash, Judy Wasylycia - Leis, Bev Desjarlais, Libby Davies, Jean Crowder, Nettie Wiebe, Mary-Woo Sims (if she defeats Ian Wadell for the nomination), and quite possibly Irene Mathyssen and Lorene Mahoney will most likely all be elected. It looks as though will be seeing a lot more women NDP MP's in the house after this election.

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Sharon
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posted 21 February 2004 09:31 PM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ian Waddell has won Vancouver-Kingsway over Mary-Woo Sims.
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Jesse Hoffman
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posted 21 February 2004 10:33 PM      Profile for Jesse Hoffman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah well, I was hoping Mary Woo-Sims would win, but Ian Waddell is clearly also a very strong candidate. Hopefully Mary will try running in another riding.
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Shenanigans
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posted 22 February 2004 01:08 AM      Profile for Shenanigans   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another "pretty sure" addition to the candidate's list would be Olivia Chow.
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Wilf Day
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posted 22 February 2004 01:17 AM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm rooting for Susan Barclay in Kenora too.
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posted 23 February 2004 12:13 PM      Profile for Sports Guy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Regina Lumsden Lake Centre (Larry Spencer's seat) has three strong women candidates for nomination, Judy Kobsar, Kathie Maher Wolbaum and Karen Gibbons. Of course they are running against 4 or 5 men, but I would put my money on one of these women winning.
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