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siren
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posted 21 January 2007 07:50 PM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know what to make of this really...


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Is Canada Profiling U.S. Rappers?
1/16/07, 5:56 pm EST

Rolling Stone

Jerome Almon, CEO of Detroit-based Murdercap Records, has filed a eyebrow-raising $900 million lawsuit in federal court against the Canadian government, the American State Department and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. The suit, apparently prepared for Almon by the chief of Detroit’s American Civil Liberties Union accuses the defendants of “wholesale profiling” of rap artists and African-Americans.

Almon claims that he can document more than 80 instances between 1992 and 2003 during which he was detained and questioned by border guards while trying to enter Canada. He also says that he was periodically and falsely accused of having a criminal record and that racist comments were directed at him by Canadian officials. But according to Almon, the suit is not being filed solely on his behalf.

Almon reportedly mentioned well-documented incidents in which everyone from DMX to 50 Cent to Eminem have been either refused entry or detained while attempting to enter the country. According to Almon, Canada is engaging in profiling based on a government-held belief that rap music can be blamed for an increase in gang violence and violent homicides in Toronto and Vancouver. ” They’re treating us as if we’re criminals,'’ Almon said, adding, “If the Klan had a police force, it would be the border services.'’ The Canadian government has reportedly pointed to a shooting that took place in Toronto in 2003, after a 50 Cent show as an example of the direct connection between rap music and gun violence.

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He is also apparently alleging that Canada protects known Muslim terrorists responsible for casualties in the USofA.

[ 21 January 2007: Message edited by: siren ]


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West Coast Greeny
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posted 21 January 2007 10:29 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by siren:

He is also apparently alleging that Canada protects known Muslim terrorists responsible for casualties in the USofA.

[ 21 January 2007: Message edited by: siren ]


Ugh.


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Painet Cirques
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posted 22 January 2007 10:06 AM      Profile for Painet Cirques     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While I think with the Muslim terrorists comment he's taking it to the extreme and towing the U.S. government's "if all else fails, blame Canada" line...some of the things he said were true.

I remember a few years ago the Ontario Legislature laughably tried to ban Eminem from coming to Canada, under the guise of "hate literature" towards women. (It's odd how they seem to care very little about women the rest of the time, eh?)

I went to a Snoop Dogg concert in Hamilton a few years ago, which went on despite the city itself stepping in and trying to have him banned from coming. He was performing with a number of well-known Canadian hip-hop artists. (One of the best hip-hop shows I've ever seen.)

After my friend and I left the show, we were confronted by a line-up of police in riot gear standing elbow-to-elbow along the sidewalk, preventing the concert-goers from exiting. They were clearly trying to provoke an incident with the enormous police presence to justify their attempted racist blockade of Snoop from Hamilton. It was rather shocking and I feel lucky to have gotten out of there without having my skull caved in the way they were screaming at people just for trying to cross the street.

This does not apply only to rappers though, there were several occasions throughout my adolescence where bands I had paid to see were stopped at the border and shows were canceled. Punk rock bands, rock bands...you name it the border guards found an excuse to block their entry. I hope this lawsuit generates enough bad publicity that the border guards have to think twice about their obnoxious and ignorant attitudes towards visitors.


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Stargazer
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posted 22 January 2007 12:43 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I've heard it all now. While I have no doubt that there are racist border guards there is no way I'm going along with this BS. My son is big into Hip Hop and has a lot of friends who are also big into Hip Hop. He said something to me a few days ago which really hit home. Essentially he said how people in Hip Hop are starting to realize that buying all the bling, wearing the clothes of a known racist (Tommy Hillfigure (sp?), talking about women as if they were nothing but decorations (at best) and supporting a culture in which killing each other is 'cool' will never, ever bring solidarity nor respect to the music. People have to support each other, not the people who oppress them. Hip Hoppers are realizing that it's time to not buy into a system that oppresses, and instead it's time to stand together, stop the gang killings, and get a more positive message out there. I cannot have any respect for people who cannot and will not do anything about their own known buy in to hatred. Why support a culture that constantly degrades and puts down POCs? It makes no sense to me. These rappers would be wise to start spending their money and enlisting their talents towards stopping violence against women and the non-pursuit of 'bling' so their voices of oppression can be taken seriously. It seriously hurts the reputation and talents of all the positive hip hop out there because they cannot compete against this type of violent stuff. It's sad that it is this way, but for now, it is.
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 22 January 2007 06:18 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is it possible that rappers are profiling themselves (e.g. Murder Cap Records).
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Stargazer
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posted 22 January 2007 06:35 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The history of Death Row Records is pretty interesting:

History of Death Row Records


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siren
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posted 22 January 2007 09:40 PM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't listen to rap music -- although the beat is often attractive, when i can make out the lyrics I'm often offended.

So I didn't know what many of you do and what Stargazer's son has figured out. There are genres of rap and Jerome Almon apparently represents gangsta rap which it seems is mostly about glorifying gang violence, pimps and denigrating women -- and apparently, selling bullet proof vests as a fashion accessory. Hip hop is different, I guess.

I think Scott has a good point though re. Almon calling his company Murder Cap. I wonder if I wrote, CEO of Rape and Mayhem in my passport if any border guard anywhere in the world might stop and question me. Also, some of these rappers are gang members (past or present) and might have criminal records which would cause Homeland Fascism, er Security to put them on no fly and watch lists.

Snoop Dogg and Ice Cube just played in my small southern Alberta town and the review in the paper didn't mention anything about border problems but they did note the smell of marijuana in the air -- not critically, just as a kind of joke.

Welcome, Painet Cirques. Glad you made it out of the concert safely.


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