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Catchfire
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posted 19 February 2008 02:20 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Holy Crap!
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Fidel Castro today announced his retirement as head of state of Cuba, 49 years after he seized power in an armed revolution.

With the exception of monarchs, his resignation will bring to an end the world's longest reign in power.

The 81-year-old, who handed over power to his brother, Raúl, in July 2006 after surgery, said in a letter published on the site of the official state newspaper, Granma: "I communicate to you that I will not aspire to or accept ... the position of president of council of state and commander in chief."


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Cueball
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posted 19 February 2008 02:42 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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"My essential duty is not to cling to office nor to obstruct the rise of people much younger, but to pass on experience and ideas whose modest value arises from the exceptional times in which I lived."

As a non-communist I will say that is very modestly statesmanlike thing to say.


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posted 19 February 2008 05:39 AM      Profile for mimeguy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The UK Guardian - http://tinyurl.com/38suca

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Castro's brother is expected to be nominated by the national assembly as president. Raúl was second in Cuba's power structure as defence minister until he took over from Fidel in July 2006, when the leader announced he had undergone intestinal surgery.

However, it had always been felt that his role would be temporary and a younger person would take over in the long term. One of the current favourites for the position is Carlos Lage, the 56-year old vice-president.

Lage, a paediatrician by profession, has risen to prominence in recent months after overseeing economic changes in Cuba, including negotiations over oil from Venezuela, whose president, Hugo Chávez, is Castro's strongest international supporter.


I wonder if it would make more sense to allow Lage to assume the Presidency now rather than later.

Meanwhile George Bush had this to say,
http://tinyurl.com/244o6j

QUOTE] "The international community should work with the Cuban people to begin to build institutions that are necessary for democracy," he said.

"Eventually, this transition ought to lead to free and fair elections - and I mean free, and I mean fair - not these kind of staged elections that the Castro brothers try to foist off as true democracy.

"And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of Cuba realise the blessings of liberty." [/QUOTE]

There is also an interesting link from the Guardian site referring to an earlier article in January on Leonard Weinglass and the 'Cuban Five' trial.

http://tinyurl.com/ys5rwu
"Society has become more punitive"
[QUOTE]"When I argued the Chicago Eight appeal, the court set aside two days for argument; when we argued the case of the Five, all five were given a total of 15 minutes, so I had three minutes to argue my client's life sentence. That is attributed to judicial efficiency which, of course, curtails the rights of the accused. So the system operates faster and more punitively, and there is no groundswell to address this in either party. [/QUOTE


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Catchfire
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posted 19 February 2008 06:01 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Awesome! George W. Bush did what nine presidents before him could not! He defeated Fidel Castro! U-S-A! U-S-A!
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posted 19 February 2008 06:04 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Reaction among Cuban expats in Miami seems subdued, but I guess it's early yet.

From the Miami Herald:

Cautious optimism in South Florida

Sanctimonious comments from Bush and his ilk, like those posted above will probably be proliferating over the next while. Time for an anti-nausea pill.


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Fidel Castro Ruz: This is not my farewell to you. My only wish is to fight as a soldier in the battle of ideas. I shall continue to write under the heading of ‘Reflections by comrade Fidel.’ It will be just another weapon you can count on. Perhaps my voice will be heard.

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N.Beltov
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posted 19 February 2008 06:31 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Monthly Review has been collecting, since March 2007, Castro's published reflections. It might be an interesting link to check out every now and then. Presumably, MR will continue to document these remarks.
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posted 19 February 2008 06:40 AM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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It seems unreal to see Bush, the conqueror of other peoples’ raw materials and energy resources, setting out guidelines for the world with no thought of how many hundreds of thousands or millions of people die or how many clandestine prisons and torture centers must be created to attain his objectives. (Fidel Castro Ruz, January 14 2008

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N.Beltov
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posted 19 February 2008 08:33 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's my understanding that there will be a lunar eclipse, visible throughout Cuba (weather conditions permitting), tomorrow night. Perhaps the U.S. government can blame Fidel Castro for this shocking behavior of the moon. If the moon is so disobedient then it can only be the result of a Communist (or Al Quida) plot.

Some people undoubtedly continue to obstinately cling to the view that revolutions, like eclipses, are disobedient aberrations or perhaps a form of punishment inflicted by God due to human wickedness. However, the enduring quality of the Cuban revolution, long after Castro's retirement from active politics, will make fairy tales like this one harder to believe even for the most credulous bird-brained fledglings of imperialism.

In any case, Jorge Perez Doval of the Geophysics and Astronomy Institute in Cuba uses more scientific methods to figure out the conduct of our naughty moon.

Why must the moon be so naughty?


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posted 19 February 2008 09:07 AM      Profile for wwSwimming     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I admire him for staying power alone. From about 1960 to 2007 he helped manage a country with a country 1000 times bigger breathing down his neck.

And worked the transition when the Soviet Union stopped supporting Cuba, what some people refer to as Cuba's version of "Peak Oil". The Cuban people lost an average of about 35 pounds a piece. Key to their making the transition was starting lots of small neighborhood food gardens.

This brings to mind Faith Philippi, an American school-teacher who visited Cuba. The US Government seized her life savings for having the nerve.


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posted 19 February 2008 09:24 AM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bush isn't interested in democracy. His response to the democratically elected leaders of Venezuela and Bolivia makes that abundantly clear. Democracy for the US is merely an exercise in installing a compliant government that will do the bidding of the corporate elite.

I truly hope that the Cuban people will not be sucked into the vortex that overcame the democratic movement in Poland and replaced their vision of a socialist democracy with the WTO vision of the Dictarship of the Invisible Hand.


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posted 19 February 2008 11:43 AM      Profile for leftyboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if retirement is a euphemism for "he's dead and we're not going to talk about it"
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adam stratton
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posted 19 February 2008 12:05 PM      Profile for adam stratton        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I wonder if retirement is a euphemism for "he's dead and we're not going to talk about it" =leftyboy

At best it would be a short delay for preparations before announcing his death. But to say "we are not going to talk about it", this happens only in the imagination of right wing media and circles, who loath socialism.

The Cuban regime would never overlook or ignore the sentiments of the masses and their desire to say good bye to their leader.


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RosaL
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posted 19 February 2008 12:06 PM      Profile for RosaL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is the announcement.

(No, he's not dead.)


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N.Beltov
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posted 19 February 2008 12:12 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if the Americans will continue to make efforts to assassinate Castro after the latter's retirement from active political life?
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posted 19 February 2008 12:16 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
I truly hope that the Cuban people will not be sucked into the vortex that overcame the democratic movement in Poland and replaced their vision of a socialist democracy with the WTO vision of the Dictarship of the Invisible Hand.

Which "democratic" movement in Poland was that?

The one led by those noted "democrats" Karol Wojtyła and Lech Wałęsa?

I share your hope.


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quote:
Originally posted by N.Beltov:
I wonder if the Americans will continue to make efforts to assassinate Castro after the latter's retirement from active political life?

The way I see it, any Latin American country's leader is a possible contract hit of the CIA or their drug mafia associates.


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Make that any non-compliant Latin American country's leader...

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posted 20 February 2008 07:19 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In an interview with Any Goodman of Democracy Now!, Peter Kornbluh noted the following:

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Well, I think it’s a momentous occasion, because rulers like Fidel Castro somewhat traditionally leave office in a coffin or during a military coup, and here he has basically, I think, capped his legacy of revolutionary leadership by leaving under his own terms, by helping to usher in a very smooth transition, almost seamless transition, to his brother and to younger disciples of both Castros, who will, I think, emerge on Sunday and in the days thereafter to lead Cuba. So Castro has lived to not only see the institutionalization of his revolution, but the passage of power peacefully to another generation. ... He also issues a warning to his enemies, that if he dies, his ideas might become more powerful than when he was alive. And, of course, he’s not dying now; he’s simply officially changing titles, from commander-in-chief to commentator-in-chief, where he’s going to be that kind of columnist for the Cuban Communist Party newspaper and continue to, as he puts it, you know, be a soldier in the battle of ideas.

Kornbluh further notes that the U.S. actually had a "comprehensive plan to prevent Fidel Castro from turning over the reins of power to his brother Raul, and that plan has clearly and objectively failed".


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I wonder if it would make more sense to allow Lage to assume the Presidency now rather than later.
I was wondering about that as well however I heard a Professor from the University of Miami speaking on the CBC and it got me very worried. He was pushing the anti-Castro, anti-revolution CIA line to the hilt but then he started praising Lage as the best possible successor. That makes me very afraid for the Cuban revolution particularly after having read the Shock Doctrine.

Unionist it was the Shock Doctrine that really explained the who's who of the Polish and Russian attempts at throwing off their totalitarian left governments in favour of a European socialist model like in Scandinavia. Instead they got a quick right turn to a religious revival of the Invisible Hand.


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quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:

Unionist it was the Shock Doctrine that really explained the who's who of the Polish and Russian attempts at throwing off their totalitarian left governments in favour of a European socialist model like in Scandinavia. Instead they got a quick right turn to a religious revival of the Invisible Hand.


I think in Russia's case, the left-wing of the Soviet had given way to aspiring state-capitalists. After decades of trade embargoes and ultimately the Saudi's dumping of oil on world markets in 1985-86, Soviets like Gorbachev became convinced that integration with the western world economy would make the cold war go away. And Harvard economists like Jeffrey Sachs and others made sales pitches to Gorbachev, Yeltsin(who needed no arm-twisting) Gaidar, Chubais etc. Yeltsin was able to convince Milosovic that integration with the west would ease the cold war offensives, which were becoming more and more a problem with proxies wars in Afghanistan and other countries in the 1980's. It was a "revolution from above," according to Canadian Fred Weir.


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Its very premature to say that the Fidelistas have managed a smooth transition.

So far it can only be said that they are doing better than most. Since the frame of comparison is to regimes with little to zero popular support, that isn't saying much.

Handing power [permanently] to Raul doesn't count as a transition. And when the reigns of governance have been handed to another generation, we won't be able to count that as smooth for at least several months.


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posted 20 February 2008 09:33 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Apparently it's necessary to repeat the obvious.

1. Fidel Castro Ruz has decided to step down as President. Despite hundreds of attempts by the USA to murder him in cold blood, Castro has managed to retire at over 80 years of age, pass on some duties to the next in command (in this case his brother Raúl), and move on to playing a role as "commentator-in-chief" (a very amusing title, actually). Castro:1 ... USA:0.

2. Despite the nefarious activities of the USA, and their expressed plans to prevent it from happening, Fidel Castro has managed to pass over a number of duties to his brother Raúl. Castro:2 ... USA:0.

3. Fidel Castro has managed to deflect attention away from himself for this weekend's meeting of the Cuban National Assembly, by making his announcement when he did, to focus on the future leadership in Cuba rather than on it's past leadership. Check. Castro: 3 etc.

If I was guided by the remarks of KenS then I would say that there's no point in remarking on any of these aspects of the transition because ... the transition isn't over yet.

Of course, if that's the case, why make any remarks about Castro until he'd dead? In fact, why make any remarks at all? etc.


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I don't get why the UN didn't try to stop the US embargo of Cuba while Castro was in power. Wasn't the embargo a blatantly illegal act?
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Just to be clear, the US calls their conduct an "embargo". The Cubans call it a blockade. Whatever you call it, it includes the extra-territorial application of US law on third countries, which is most definitely an affront to international law and practices.

Not that spitting in the face of international law is anything new for the USA. When US proxies mined Nicaraguan ports and killed crew and passengers on vessels in those ports, the US simply thumbed its haughty nose at the world when the Court ruling when against it. The US is a rogue state in the most precise definition of the term. Why would they give a shit about international law?

Chomsky has written about this arrogance in the most delightful and informative way. I highly recommend his remarks, over the years, on this subject. They're easy to find.

If the US was a small country that did not dominate world institutions, or strong arm virtually every state on the planet to get its way, or invade and bomb and occupy states at will, etc., then things might be easier for Cuba. Finally, what the US does that violates international law is only part of what the US does to subvert and harm Cuban society.


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NBeltov, the points you just made in [apparent] response to my post have had plenty of play here already, and I agree with them.

I was commenting on someone who went further and said there had been a smooth transition. And that is premature.

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Darn. And I was just getting warmed up for an unpleasant argument. ...

(OK. I'm kidding about that.)

Cuba is going to get looked at by the US government in the next little while with the closeness of a doctor giving a checkup to a post prostate cancer patient. It's unpleasant but inevitable.


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N.Beltov: much appreciated.
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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I don't get why the UN didn't try to stop the US embargo of Cuba while Castro was in power. Wasn't the embargo a blatantly illegal act?

Yes, the genocidal blockade was voted down by UN General Assembly nations by wide margins over several years. Democracy is the right's most hated institution. The U.S. has used trade as a weapon throughout the cold war and hypocritically claiming that Soviet block nations were unwilling to trade with the west. Vicious U.S. trade sanctions have been used illegally to block and-or tie up humanitarian aid with red tape destined for countries like North Korea, VietNam, Cuba etc leading up to and after dissolution of the USSR, the largest source of trade for those countries prior to the 1990's. Strangely enough, Cuba is the only country in the world with political representation in U.S. government.

Here's something I wasn't aware of. Godfrey-Milliken. It was never made an Act of Canada, but good for the Liberals anyway.

eta: If Canada ever developed a national energy plan and demanded fair per barrel oil royalties on level with other oil-exporting countries and slapped green taxes on our massive energy and fossil fuel exports to the USSA in compliance with our obligations to the rest of the world wrt reducing CO2 emissions, we can bet the imperialists would squeel like stuck pigs about it.

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quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:

Unionist it was the Shock Doctrine that really explained the who's who of the Polish and Russian attempts at throwing off their totalitarian left governments in favour of a European socialist model like in Scandinavia. Instead they got a quick right turn to a religious revival of the Invisible Hand.

Well, I'd be sorry to see them go for "mitigated capitalism" (i.e., the Scandinavian model) but that's obviously a minority view on babble. In fact, it might have been smarter not to mention that

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