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Topic: America's Christian Baby-Factory
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Stargazer
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posted 11 January 2007 05:57 AM
Behold! Women be submissive to your husband, and pump out as many babies as possible for God. The Quiverfull Movement:Christian Baby Factories - Moms Just do your job. Quiverfull They don't believe in sending their kids to college, high school or public school. They believe a woman is simply a baby factory, submissive to the husband at all times. America really scares me.
From: Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist. | Registered: Jun 2004
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Sven
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posted 11 January 2007 06:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stargazer: America really scares me.
Looking at Quiverfull and saying that it's representative of America is like looking at a zit under a microscope and saying, "Wow, this person's entire body is just a mass of pimples!!" Stargazer, the chances that this micro-movement is going to induce millions of women to start pumping out the wee ones is zero. The trend for all developed countries is smaller families, and that is (and will continue to be) true for America, too. ETA: The quote from Psalms on that page was funny: "Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of [children]." But what about the woman?? And, why the hell do so many people insist on using Bibles with language from the 1600s ("hath", "shall", "thee", yada-yada-yada) as though using that language is more "authentic"? That's laughable. [ 11 January 2007: Message edited by: Sven ]
From: Eleutherophobics of the World...Unite!!!!! | Registered: Jul 2005
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Sven
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posted 11 January 2007 09:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by 2 ponies: I agree that such a group doesn’t fairly represent everyone in the US, or even the majority of Americans. But let’s face it, the religious right in general is a powerful force in the US; far more powerful than it is in Canada or other Western, industrialized democracies.
That’s indisputable. And, I agree that the social conservatives are scary. quote: Originally posted by 2 ponies: In a society where almost everyone has access to at least a primary and secondary education and we’re spoiled with information access, I’m not sure why people feel the need to take advice from an outdated source.
Ain’t that the truth. It’s mystifying.
From: Eleutherophobics of the World...Unite!!!!! | Registered: Jul 2005
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Stargazer
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posted 11 January 2007 09:50 AM
Thanks for the post 2ponies, that is exactly what I meant. Sven you should know me enough on here to know I care very deeply about what happens around the world, and the unfortunate truth is, America is right now the superpower and it is not doing that much good anywhere. I'm not the only one scared. Many many Americans, with whom I consider to be my brothers and sisters, are also scared, as is the majority of the world. Nuclear war, the War on Terrorism, the senseless deaths of all the Iraqis, the overtures for war with Iran, Bush's 'Crusade', the daily prayers held in the white house by the far right, the Blackwater mercenaries, Jesus Camp type indoctrination of kids, the hijacking of the media, Rush, Bill O Reilly.... The list goes on. I can only hope that if Canada moves that far to the right we too will have the support of people around the world. I am not anti-American, I am a very very concerned person who happens to live in an International community and who also realizes what an impact every policy in the US has on Canada and the rest of the world.
From: Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist. | Registered: Jun 2004
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sephardic-male
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posted 05 February 2007 01:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stargazer: Behold! Women be submissive to your husband, and pump out as many babies as possible for God. The Quiverfull Movement:Christian Baby Factories - Moms Just do your job. Quiverfull They don't believe in sending their kids to college, high school or public school. They believe a woman is simply a baby factory, submissive to the husband at all times. America really scares me.
This is the conservatism movement folks run away
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robbie_dee
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posted 05 February 2007 08:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Michelle: I think it would be interesting to write to H&R Block and ask them what the hell they're doing supporting QuiverFull with advertising on their web site. And it doesn't look like just a randomly-generated ad - it looks like a specific sponsorship.
Hey, even religious nutjobs pay taxes. (Well, except for the churches themselves - they're tax-exempt). In any case, perhaps H&R Block just wants to interest them in a predatory loan? Sorry if this is thread drift... It's late and I'm in a strange mood. But it does occur to me that these quiverfull folks might be a good target market for some unscrupulous businesses like H&R Block because with all those children they are probably often in need of quick cash and I doubt they are very financially sophisticated consumers. [ 05 February 2007: Message edited by: robbie_dee ]
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remind
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posted 06 February 2007 11:48 AM
Personally, I reject the notion of fear being involved in this at all.Fear arises out of the unknown or unknowable. What this type of patriarchial fundamentalist ideology does to societies and peoples is well known and documented. I would use in place of using the words fear, or being scared, is alarm. Because we know where this could lead, I feel we are alarmed that this type of regressive thinking is being operantly conditioned into people and are also alarmed over what the results of this operant conditioning could mean to the world at large.
From: "watching the tide roll away" | Registered: Jun 2004
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