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Hephaestion
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posted 27 June 2005 07:23 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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(Vienna) The United Nations drug agency warned on world anti-drugs day that even occasional use of marijuana is a link in a long and dangerous cycle of crime, degradation and terrorism.

"The links between organized crime, drug trafficking, drug consumption, drug money, arms trafficking and terrorism become clearer every day," said Antonio Maria Costa, executive director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), on Sunday. "We know that even the occasional marijuana smoker is a link in a much longer and more dangerous chain."

And in a message to mark an international anti-drug day, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan warned that drugs are "little more than tickets to a dead end."

Governments marked the day with drug bonfires, and, in the case of China, by executing convicted drug traffickers.


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Briguy
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posted 27 June 2005 08:07 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The answer seems clear, then. Legalize pot and take it off the black market.
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No Yards
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posted 27 June 2005 09:55 AM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder where they will take notice of the "deadly chains" contined in our use (even occasional) of oil, firearms, diamonds, and even Capitalism itself?
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DrConway
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posted 27 June 2005 12:30 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm always amused at the way China kicks off Drug Warrior Day by executing people, and nobody blinks. Even the people that usually trash China for human rights offences (and I'm looking at you, Dubya).
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posted 27 June 2005 02:29 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like to relax, have a few drinks, get high, and listen to some toons.

But just a few minutes ago, I started thinking that maybe I'd like to "graduate" to doing "speedballs" (what killed John Belushi) A-N-D I think I'd also like to kill somebody for the mob.

Waitasecond, ... now it's gone. I don't feel like doing those things anymore. Weird.


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posted 27 June 2005 02:38 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Originally posted by DrConway:
I'm always amused at the way China kicks off Drug Warrior Day by executing people, and nobody blinks.

It horrifies me. I may be wrong, but I believe China sentences alcoholics to five years in prison.


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posted 27 June 2005 04:07 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fuck I hate the U.N. They want to tax us, throw us in jail for smoking pot, and set up global Internet monitoring...And yet they have the gall to bash the U.S. when they're just as bad.

Fuck the U.N., fuck the WTO, and double fuck WIPO.


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posted 27 June 2005 04:09 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about China?
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Coyote
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posted 27 June 2005 04:09 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry. Don't answer that. It was pure trolling. I couldn't resist.
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RP.
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posted 27 June 2005 04:11 PM      Profile for RP.     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by NDP Newbie:
double fuck

How's the rage-ahol?


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Rufus Polson
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posted 27 June 2005 04:19 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thing about the UN is it's a bunch of little things stuck together, and most of the people in it bring agendas with them from wherever they came from. You can never tell what you're going to get. Who is this Costa guy, for instance? Is he American? Italian? If Italian, is he a Berlusconi apparatchik?

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posted 27 June 2005 04:27 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Coyote:
What about China?

I hate China more than I hate the U.S. or the U.N.

But since you already knew that because I say it ad nauseum, I didn't mention it.


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posted 27 June 2005 04:53 PM      Profile for Epistrophy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Briguy:
The answer seems clear, then. Legalize pot and take it off the black market.

I thought legalization in Canada would solve all the problems until I read this playboy article posted on cannabis culture's forums.

Given the size of the US demand, legalizing pot here wont put a dent on the exports. It's wishful thinking to believe that this business will remain outside the control of organized crime. As every previous attempt at prohibition showed us, the harder the repression (let's say, if the profit from legal marijuana is used to fight the illegal crops and smuggling), the higher the prices go, the most likely it will fall under the umbrella of mafia groups.

Legalizing pot in Canada will solve some serious issues, but without the US moving on with us, I don't see an end to trafficking and the criminals it attracts.


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posted 27 June 2005 05:05 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And why the fuck should we have to take responsibility for the U.S. and China's bad policies? I would join Al Qaeda before I lowered myself and allowed my country to lower itself to that.

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Coyote
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posted 27 June 2005 05:09 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Could you please take the NDP out of your name, Newbie?
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No Yards
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posted 27 June 2005 05:10 PM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So? If the US demand for "illegal drug" fuels illegal activity then that's their fault ... let legal suppliers supply Canadians, and if someone wants to set up an illegal grow-op that services US demand, then let the US deal with it as it crosses the border or when it's in their country.

If China were to make ice cream illegal, would we go through any trouble to make ice-cream illegal in Canada, or hunt down "illegal" ice-cream churn-ops that were smuggling ice-cream into China?

Why should Canada destroy our youth just because the USA wants to throw all their children into prison? Screw them!


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posted 27 June 2005 05:13 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Coyote:
Could you please take the NDP out of your name, Newbie?

Don't kid yourself: I think Osama is the epitomy of evil, but I am like those Mexican soccer fans who were screaming his name in that I also recognise that he could not exist and have the following he has were not for the bullying, the suffering, and the oppression that Russians/Soviet, the Americans, the Chinese, and their allies have systematically inflicted upon the less powerful in our world.

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 27 June 2005 05:46 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ya, Osama's like the Robin Hood of the poor and disenfranchised, if Robin Hood were a multimillionaire made rich by the very country he despises.

Osama's got it real tough. I can see why he's so angry.


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posted 27 June 2005 09:17 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
Ya, Osama's like the Robin Hood of the poor and disenfranchised, if Robin Hood were a multimillionaire made rich by the very country he despises.

Osama's got it real tough. I can see why he's so angry.


I know that, but it doesn't change the fact that people who have had their rights, their livelihoods, and their dignity taken away because of the aforementioned three nations will be angry enough to support the most extreme of their enemies, even if said enemies may be extremely hypocritical.


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