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jeff house
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posted 17 November 2006 01:31 PM
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Asked if the experience in Vietnam offered lessons for Iraq, Bush said, "We tend to want there to be instant success in the world, and the task in Iraq is going to take awhile."He said "it's just going to take a long period of time" for "an ideology of freedom to overcome an ideology of hate. Yet, the world that we live in today is one where they want things to happen immediately." "We'll succeed unless we quit," the president said.
Yes! US troops entered Vietnam in force in 1961, and they were already out only 16 years later, and with only 58,000 dead! For sure, American soldiers should be asked to duplicate that mission, because it was so satisfying to leave Vietnam knowing that all your goals had been achieved.we have all the time in the world, people! [ 17 November 2006: Message edited by: jeff house ]
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Noise
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posted 17 November 2006 02:01 PM
Heh, he's asking for more than patience.Yahoo has the Repubs asking for 127 billion more in funding. I'll see if I can find a better source, but I think it's mostly just an expectation than an actual request at this time.
The blurb at the end was intriguing:
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According to USA Today, if Congress grants the additional funding of between 127 billion and 160 billion dollars, it would make the war on terror more expensive than the entire Vietnam War, which cost 536 billion dollars, adjusted for inflation.
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Briguy
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posted 20 November 2006 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by jeff house:
Yes! US troops entered Vietnam in force in 1961, and they were already out only 16 years later, and with only 58,000 dead! For sure, American soldiers should be asked to duplicate that mission, because it was so satisfying to leave Vietnam knowing that all your goals had been achieved.we have all the time in the world, people!
Don't forget the French in your calculation, Jeff. The Vietnamese were resisting occupation from 1945, really. 32 years! That's a long time for the Culture of Hate. They really believe this idiotic tripe, don't they? [ 20 November 2006: Message edited by: Briguy ]
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John K
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posted 20 November 2006 09:05 AM
Funny thing that the 'culture of love' triumphed over the 'culture of hate' in Vietnam only AFTER the USA's ignomonious defeat and withdrawal.Like Vietnam the USA's ongoing occupation of Iraq is the problem not the solution. Trouble is most Democrats - like Bush - still don't get it. Like Vietnam, it's going to take many years to put Humpty back together again after the de-stabilizing US military presence finally leaves Iraq. But it is the essential first step if the Iraqi people are to have any kind of future.
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John K
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posted 20 November 2006 11:19 AM
From the news reports, Bush seemed to be on the defensive about Vietnam/Iraq parallels during his time in Hanoi at the APEC Summit, and this was his usual garbled nonsensical way of addressing them."We'll succeed unless we quit" ranks right up there with Vietnam era sayings like "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." Can't imagine his Vietnamese hosts were terribly impressed, but then who is?
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