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Topic: Polls highlight Taiwan's identity crisis
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Panama Jack
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posted 07 December 2004 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by NDP Newbie: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/FL07Ad01.htmlA lot better than the tripe we get from dumbasses in our right-wing media who think that the Pan-Blue parties are communist because they support unification.
REALLY? That's bizarre... you have any actual examples of this?
I've read some republican anti-China congressman support Chen and the DPP's move towards independance (more as a slight to the CCP than anything else IMO), but as of late it seems that Bush's rhetoric has been more slanted towards appeasing the mainland and thereby supporting the pan-Blue folks and the old cross-strait CCP/KMT dichotomy (which leans towards unification).
From: Vancouver | Registered: Jul 2004
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NDP Newbie
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posted 07 December 2004 11:53 PM
CNN's coverage of the Presidential election earlier this year.Republicans who support Chen are acting under outdated assumption that China and her allies are communist-minded, which has not been true since before the Deng Xiaoping era. Many calling for democracy, civil liberties, and a Taiwan that is neither a province of a CCP-ruled China nor the temporary seat of the ROC (the political forefathers of the liberal DPP...In contrast, the Taiwan Solidarity Union was founded by pro-independence centrists who had tried and failed to reform the Kuomintang from within...Some belief that the small pro-Taiwan faction of the Kuomintang will join the pro-Chen pan-Green parties in the Legislative Yuan should they only win a narrow majority of its seats. Many analysts are predicting about 130 of Taiwan's 225 legislative seats will be won by DPP and TSU "Green" candidates, although numbers even higher or as low as 113 are also considered plausible, which may force the Greens to work with left-leaning pro-Taiwan independents to prevent a theoretical one seat majority from falling due to party switches.) were prosecuted as communist supporters of the "Beijing insurgency" and some were even assassinated or murdered under mysterious circumstances. Ironically, it is the far-right Mainland Chinese who control the weakening Kuomintang and the other Pan-Blue parties that would rather a Taiwan ruled by the CCP than a Taiwan governed by Taiwanese.
From: Cornwall, ON | Registered: Mar 2004
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Panama Jack
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posted 08 December 2004 12:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by NDP Newbie: CNN's coverage of the Presidential election earlier this year.Republicans who support Chen are acting under outdated assumption that China and her allies are communist-minded, which has not been true since before the Deng Xiaoping era.
Since when could the Guomingdang (KMT) be considered communist leaning? Heralders of the "pro-unification" rhetoric, but hardly worshippers of Mao, Deng, or any other member of the CCP. They're the opposite side of the same coin that the old-school CPP is on, which is why they prefer them over the DPP.
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Ironically, it is the far-right Mainland Chinese who control the weakening Kuomintang and the other Pan-Blue parties that would rather a Taiwan ruled by the CCP than a Taiwan governed by Taiwanese.
That's only for show, IMO -- most Taiwanese would like to keep the status quo if they could, and giving glib remarks regarding the "eventual reunfication with the motherland" seems to do the trick. Even Chen has said (again, only in rhetoric) that he wouldn't be opposed to unification if the PRC were to become a democratic society. He ain't holding his breath.
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NDP Newbie
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posted 11 December 2004 12:45 PM
Well what do you know?The Kuomintang successfully stole the election this time. I'm surprised they were competent enough to get it right...Now they'll be able to make a killing by hiding all the assets they stole from both the Chinese and the Taiwaense people. (FYI: The NDP favour Taiwan's participating in global community and Bill Blaikey, specifically, is far more sympathetic to Taiwan than he is to China.)
From: Cornwall, ON | Registered: Mar 2004
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Fidel
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posted 12 December 2004 02:41 PM
And Chiang took the bank of China's wealth with him, too. The Chinese peasants who couldnt carry crates of gold any farther over the mountains were shot to death. Sigmund Reis was another despot backed by the west and who robbed Korea of its wealth before fleeing to the States. By many a neutral opinion on the matter, the imperial jewels belong in Peking from where they were stolen. [ 12 December 2004: Message edited by: Fidel ]
From: Viva La Revolución | Registered: Apr 2004
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