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Michelle
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posted 04 April 2007 03:45 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Metallica may be a cool name for a heavy metal band, but a Swedish couple is struggling to convince authorities it is also suitable for a baby girl.

Michael and Karolina Tomaro are locked in a court battle with the nation’s tax agency, which rejected their application to name their six-month-old child after the legendary rock band.

"It suits her," Karolina Tomaro, 27, said.

"She’s decisive and she knows what she wants."

Although little Metallica has already been baptised, the Swedish National Tax Board refused to register the name, saying it was associated with both the rock group and the word "metal."


B eats yet another "Britney" if you ask me.

Reminds me of my uncle. A hog fan, he wanted to name his kid "Harley Davidson Lastname". His former wife, also a hog fan, but not to that extent, stepped in. So they compromised. The kid's name is "Conventionalfirstname Davidson Lastname".

[ 04 April 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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marzo
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posted 04 April 2007 05:40 AM      Profile for marzo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"She's decisive and she knows what she wants."
She's 6 months old, for cryin' out loud!
They will probably blast 'heavy metal' noise in the baby's ears all day long. I hate those people.

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Catchfire
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posted 04 April 2007 05:54 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the baby should get what she wants. Nothing else matters.
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Albireo
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posted 04 April 2007 05:58 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She wants to breast-feed, excrete, and cry out in a piercing voice.

Sounds like a good match for a metal band.


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Cueball
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posted 04 April 2007 07:00 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by marzo:
"She's decisive and she knows what she wants."
She's 6 months old, for cryin' out loud!
They will probably blast 'heavy metal' noise in the baby's ears all day long. I hate those people.

Wow.


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jeff house
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posted 04 April 2007 08:37 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I once met a native woman in rural Guatemala, whose native language was "Kak'chi-quel" and whose first name was Xiamquel, which means "opening flower".

She told me that her mother and father had actually tried to name her something else, but that the band leader had threatened them with removal from the community if they persisted.

They had wanted to call her "Cindy Lauper".


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bigcitygal
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posted 04 April 2007 11:46 AM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the baby should be named "Barry Manilow".
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jeff house
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posted 04 April 2007 11:55 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What if they gave the baby a Swedish name like "Abba"?
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jrose
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posted 04 April 2007 11:57 AM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a link to another thread discussing the same topic. It was short-lived, but I closed it after seeing this one!

quote:
I've always wondered who regulates birth names in Canada? Do we regulate birth names in Canada? For example, if an extreme parent wanted to give their child a name with political implication in it, or that is just complete jibberish, is this possible?

[ 04 April 2007: Message edited by: jrose ]


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bigcitygal
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posted 04 April 2007 12:35 PM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Catchfire: calendar names are off limits. By now, though, I could just be inventing memories. I do that.

Um, I think you're smoking something Catchfire, as there are some volunteer moderators whose names defy this statement. Okay, just one.

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Catchfire
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posted 04 April 2007 12:54 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What, Ruby Tuesday?
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siren
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posted 04 April 2007 01:07 PM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Avril Lavigne?
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Catchfire
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posted 04 April 2007 01:17 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Benny & Joon?
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the grey
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posted 04 April 2007 01:25 PM      Profile for the grey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bigcitygal:

Um, I think you're smoking something Catchfire, as there are some volunteer moderators whose names defy this statement. Okay, just one.

My understanding is that Quebec does regulate baby names, but the other provinces don't. For some reason I think it's much more common to regulate names in civil law countries than common law countries. (I don't know why I think that, though.)


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Tom Vouloumanos
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posted 04 April 2007 03:01 PM      Profile for Tom Vouloumanos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a clip of baby Metallica
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Steppenwolf Allende
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posted 05 April 2007 12:16 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
They will probably blast 'heavy metal' noise in the baby's ears all day long. I hate those people.

Hey, lose the musical prejudice. I'm an old Metallica fan from way back in the late 70s and 80s!

So they want to name her Metallica! Big deal!

The Stoicos named their son Elvis after he was born back in 1977 (just after Elvis died), and he turned out to be an award-winning internationally acclaimed skater!

Also, and much worse, I remember reading back in 1977 as well, when the first generation movie Star Wars came out, a couple in the US named their twins R2D2 and C-3PO, after the droid robots in the film. Hate to think how they might have turned out.

Hush little baby, don't say a word
And forget about that noise you heard
It's just a beast under your bed
In your closet, in your head!

Exit light
Enter night
Grain of sand
Off to never-never land!

Metallica
Enter Sandman
1992


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Martha (but not Stewart)
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posted 05 April 2007 02:41 PM      Profile for Martha (but not Stewart)     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is kind of an interesting question whether there should be any government enforced constraints on what name(s) you can give your baby. Parents do not, after all, have 100% autonomy in their child-rearing decisions.
And it is not clear that the government ought to recognize the name "Lord God, Queen of the Universe", even if that is what you're inclined to named your baby. As a nickname, fine. As an official birth certificate name? Hmmm.

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posted 05 April 2007 05:09 PM      Profile for Pride for Red Dolores     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wouldn't there be copyright inhibitions with that ? it is a proprietary name.
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a lonely worker
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Speaking of unfortunate names, a Palestinian friend of mine has a nephew named "Jihad". Apparently its a common name in Palestine. I can only imagine how the jackboots at Homeland Security will treat him when he gets older.
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mayakovsky
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posted 05 April 2007 06:08 PM      Profile for mayakovsky     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My parents are a bit older and were rockin to the fifties in Ottawa. Phew, I could of been called Perry Como ......!
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jas
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posted 05 April 2007 08:40 PM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jeff house:
What if they gave the baby a Swedish name like "Abba"?

Abba would make a great first name. Abba Pantera, for example.


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jas
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Link that will show you the popularity of a name (American names) through the decades. Tried different female names and got uninteresting results, then I plugged in "Lisa", which strikes me as a distinctly modern name, but one that is losing popularity. I was right. 'Rank' refers to placement in the Top 1000.

Popularity of the female name Lisa
Year Rank
2005 493
2004 430
2003 375
2002 362
2001 340
2000 295
1999 283
1998 230
1997 194
1996 168
1995 144
1994 123
1993 100
1992 88
1991 83
1990 64
1989 55
1988 43
1987 40
1986 40
1985 36
1984 29
1983 27
1982 23
1981 18
1980 16
1979 13
1978 11
1977 12
1976 9
1975 8
1974 8
1973 5
1972 3
1971 3
1970 2
1969 1
1968 1
1967 1
1966 1
1965 1
1964 1
1963 1
1962 1
1961 2
1960 6
1959 10
1958 19
1957 26
1956 31
1955 48
1954 73
1953 110
1952 127
1951 177
1950 220
1949 318
1948 364
1947 387
1946 427
1945 453
1944 522
1943 588
1942 670
1941 727
1940 731
1939 775
1938 789
1937 957

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jas
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Intersting results for "Susan", another modern name that is waning:

Popularity of the female name Susan

Year Rank
2005 609
2004 553
2003 511
2002 475
2001 449
2000 423
1999 402
1998 382
1997 349
1996 299
1995 315
1994 273
1993 237
1992 210
1991 203
1990 172
1989 161
1988 141
1987 125
1986 118
1985 105
1984 90
1983 86
1982 76
1981 71
1980 64
1979 52
1978 49
1977 45
1976 40
1975 32
1974 27
1973 25
1972 24
1971 17
1970 15
1969 11
1968 10
1967 5
1966 6
1965 5
1964 3
1963 3
1962 3
1961 3
1960 2
1959 2
1958 2
1957 2
1956 5
1955 5
1954 5
1953 5
1952 5
1951 6
1950 5
1949 5
1948 5
1947 8
1946 8
1945 10
1944 13
1943 18
1942 21
1941 27
1940 36
1939 44
1938 72
1937 98
1936 110
1935 127
1934 138
1933 149
1932 158
1931 180
1930 192
1929 210
1928 220
1927 218
1926 215
1925 219
1924 227
1923 227
1922 229
1921 222
1920 225
1919 217
1918 208
1917 210
1916 206
1915 202
1914 200
1913 196
1912 186
1911 167
1910 173
1909 164
1908 170
1907 166
1906 166


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jas
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posted 05 April 2007 08:56 PM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Then of course, there's Gertrude: [apologies to the TAT...and I'll stop now]

Popularity of the female name Gertrude

Year Rank
1965 977
1964 846
1963 801
1962 852
1961 794
1960 700
1959 676
1958 629
1957 555
1956 509
1955 473
1954 443
1953 422
1952 380
1951 334
1950 314
1949 302
1948 301
1947 297
1946 289
1945 262
1944 231
1943 229
1942 215
1941 189
1940 186
1939 173
1938 172
1937 159
1936 156
1935 145
1934 136
1933 133
1932 124
1931 115
1930 96
1929 95
1928 86
1927 78
1926 71
1925 70
1924 60
1923 59
1922 48
1921 46
1920 42
1919 39
1918 39
1917 37
1916 35
1915 35
1914 32
1913 33
1912 30
1911 30
1910 26
1909 25
1908 25
1907 24
1906 22

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jas
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"Mervin" actually makes it onto the Top 1000 right up to 1970, then drops off the face of the earth. I suppose only trendy celebrities would name their child Mervin these days. However, I do predict a resurgence in popularity for the name "Frank". Not sure if the stats will bear this out.

(No results for "Moon Unit" of course, either as a girl's or a boy's name.)


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jas
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The one year "Gwyneth" makes it into the Top 1000 (barely) is 2004, six years after 'Shakespeare in Love'.
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jas
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1965 was the year for "Karen", a name that was almost non-existent before 1926, then surged in leaps and bounds during the depression years, for some reason.

"Farrah" is non-existent until, you guessed it, 1976, peaking in 1977, then disappearing again after '88.


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Fanck Zappa named his daughter Moon Unit...

Or there is that time I was listening to a call in show with two guys from KISS... some fan called in to tell them he named his daughter after thier song Christeen 16... it was funny and disturbing because the song is about some trampy 16 year old that was named Christeen


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Agent 204
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A friend of mine knew someone who named her daughter Monster.
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at the Home Savings on California in San Francisco in the early 90's, there was a teller named Psychedelic Bloodgood.

my God. infospace has a home address & a phone number.

guess there's not too many Psychedelic Bloodgood's on the planet.

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jas
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quote:
Originally posted by trippie:
some trampy 16 year old

What's a "trampy 16 year old" ?


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Stargazer
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Actually Christeen 16 is not about a trampy 16 year old. It's about some men far too old daydreaming about being able to score with girls far too young for them. Essentially it's an ode to really disturbing behaviour on the part of older males who should know better than to sing songs about having sex with kids.
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Martha (but not Stewart)
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posted 07 April 2007 02:28 PM      Profile for Martha (but not Stewart)     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mayakovsky:
My parents are a bit older and were rockin to the fifties in Ottawa. Phew, I could of been called Perry Como ......!

Instead, they called you "mayakovsky"! I guess that's cooler than "Perry Como", but it still might get you picked on in grade school...


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quote:
In 1907, the top three boy’s names were John, William, and James. The top three girls names were Mary, Helen, and Margaret. Where are they today?

Based on the most recent data available (2005) from the U. S. Social Security Administration’s popular names page, John is # 18, William is # 11, and James is # 17. Those are three traditional favorites that have stood the test of time!

Girl’s names tend to be more experimental, and to go in and out of fashion more frequently. Mary is now ranked # 73, Helen is # 330, and Margaret is # 151. None of these three girl’s names shows any trend upward. Even Mary, which was the # 1 girl’s name of the 20th Century, has slipped a bit in recent years.


from Baby Names blog

I was trying to find the top English/American female names of the last three centuries but can't seem to. In any case, here's my guess:

1. Mary
2. Elizabeth
3. Katherine/Catherine

Anyone else want to take a guess?

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jas
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Hmm. I could be wrong, as just a quick check over a few decades of the turn of the last century, Catherine & Katherine were not even in the Top 10 - ?? Also Anne or Anna must figure in there somewhere.
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jas
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posted 07 April 2007 08:09 PM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Zoiks. I knew Evelyn was once a man's name, but did you know Margaret
was once a man's name? And not even that long ago.

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About four years ago, a Quebec-City guy with the surname Légère wanted to name his son Molson, which would have made the child Molson Légère (Molson Light). The DPJ (Quebec's Child Protection) successfully prevented that.

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trippie
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quote:
What's a "trampy 16 year old" ?

One that would have sex with anyone from KISS.....


Yooo to that other poster ... when I heard the song the one time I guess i was mistaken about its meaning...but still, naming your daughter after that song is still a little odd...


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quote:
I knew Evelyn was once a man's name, but did you know Margaret
was once a man's name?

As was Betty, Dorothy, June, Helen, Mary, Lois, and Gail....

From the same list

Am I the only one who finds this interesting/surprising?

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jrose
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This one is good too!

New Zealand officials block '4real' as child's name; no numbers allowed

Darn, I was so set on naming my child #468794165. Dang it!


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quote:
Originally posted by bohajal:
About four years ago, a Quebec-City guy with the surname Légère wanted to name his son Molson, which would have made the child Molson Légère (Molson Light). The DPJ (Quebec's Child Protection) successfully prevented that.

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PFFFFFFFFF! NO way?. ha ha


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