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unionist
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posted 04 June 2006 12:05 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Police terror shooting questioned

quote:

"He was woken up about four in the morning by screams from downstairs, got out of bed in his pyjamas obviously unarmed, nothing in his hands and hurrying down the stairs."

[Ms. Roxburgh's] client, whom she said was innocent, was shot "without any warning, at close range" as he came down the stairs, she added.

"He wasn't asked to freeze, given any warning and didn't know the people in his house were police officers until after he was shot," she added.

She said Mr Kahar was "lucky still to be alive" and reports he was shot by his brother were "absolute nonsense"...

Security sources told the BBC that the potentially fatal device thought to be in the house could produce casualty figures in double or even triple figures.

But the operation has angered some locals, prompting a leaflet to be circulated announcing a meeting to discuss the raid.


They haven't actually found the "potentially fatal device" yet. But you could injure hundreds of people with a toaster, if you throw it often enough.

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Rgaiason
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posted 04 June 2006 12:48 PM      Profile for Rgaiason   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's with this gibberish in the National Post about "international connections" involving these alleged Canadian homegrown jihadists? Maybe it's my drugzeimers again, but these paragraphs don't seem to actually say anything. Seems more like someone trying hard not to say some particular thing...

"A Canadian counter-terrorism investigation that led to the arrests of 17 people accused of plotting bombings in Ontario is linked to probes in a half-dozen countries, the National Post has learned.
Well before police tactical teams began their sweeps around Toronto on Friday, at least 18 related arrests had already taken place in Canada, the United States, Britain, Bosnia, Denmark, Sweden, and Bangladesh.
The six-month RCMP investigation, called Project OSage, is one of several overlapping probes that include an FBI case called Operation Northern Exposure and a British probe known as Operation Mazhar.
The Toronto busts are linked to arrests that began last August at a Canadian border post near Niagara Falls and continued in October in Sarajevo, London and Scandinavia, and earlier this year in New York and Georgia.
The intricate web of connections between Toronto, London, Atlanta, Sarajevo, Dhaka, and elsewhere illustrates the challenge confronting counter-terrorism investigators almost five years after 9/11."

What do you think they are trying to describe by not describing it?

I put that into an online gibberish translator but it didn't help much:
"A Cuc wudiaxan ceunkol-tollelism dinvochigaxatien zaxat row te zo axallochs eb 12 doepro axaccusow eb prettick femficks din Enkaxalie dis rintow te plefos din pit whaxarb-pezon ceunklios, zo Naxatienaxar Dech whaxas roaxalnow."


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Doug
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posted 04 June 2006 01:00 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So far, the only international connection I'm aware of is that the guys arrested in Toronto were supposedly visitors of and contributors to various radical Islamic web sites and chat rooms. Suggestive of motive and worth more investigation, but most likely not proof that they were part of some global conspiracy.
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Rgaiason
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posted 04 June 2006 01:18 PM      Profile for Rgaiason   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"is linked to probes in a half-dozen countries"
What 'probes' and linked how?

"at least 18 related arrests had already taken place"
How were they related and when did they take place?

"one of several overlapping probes that include..."

Why are they "overlapping" and what does that mean anyway? Overlapping?

"linked to arrests that began last August..."
Linked how?

"intricate web of connections between..."
What connections?

aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgh!


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unionist
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posted 04 June 2006 01:25 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pyjamas. I think the key is pyjamas. The Viet Cong used to wear pyjamas (or at least it looked that way to white people saving the world from communism). The British terrorists (ok, there'll be a trial, but what more evidence do we need?) wore pyjamas.

Hopefully our police forces will not neglect this obvious angle. Excuse me while I email something to the National Socialist Post.


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ceti
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posted 06 June 2006 05:00 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This coming from the same people who published the badge story. Ugh. I hope people are smart enough to look through the media barrage and the hyperbole and take a measured and responsible approach to the story.

Yeah, well, fat chance...


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ceti
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posted 06 June 2006 01:18 PM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uh, here we go: Intelligence behind raid was wrong, officials say

Looks like the entire thing hinged on the uncorroborated word of one informant:

quote:
But what remains puzzling is the reliance on a single apparently uncorroborated source for information that prompted a high-profile mass raid which, even without the shooting of one of the men, would have provoked a strong reaction. Andy Hayman, the Met's assistant commissioner specialist operations, refused to apologise for the raid yesterday while admitting that so far officers had not found the specific item they were looking for - thought to be a chemical device - in the terraced house in Forest Gate which was the subject of a pre-dawn raid involving more than 250 officers, including armed teams and government scientists.

Hmmm...


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John K
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posted 06 June 2006 10:30 PM      Profile for John K        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And the authorities and media pundits wring their hands wondering why Muslim youth are becoming radicalized? Must be because they hate our freedoms, though apparently not our pyjamas.
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ceti
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posted 07 June 2006 08:28 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually pyjamas are from India so worn by a lot of Muslims a lot longer.
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posted 11 June 2006 03:26 AM      Profile for ConcernedCanadian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Brothers arrested in 'terror raid' are freed without charge

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Two men arrested in an anti-terror raid in east London were released without charge last night.

One week after police swooped on their home in Forest Gate, Mohammed Abdul Kahar, 23, who was shot in the shoulder during the raid, and his brother Abul Koyair, 20, were freed.

Both had been detained under the Terrorism Act 2000, suspected of being involved in a plot to make a chemical device that could be used in a terrorist act.



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unionist
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posted 11 June 2006 07:09 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is outrageous. Released without charge? Without charge?

Who needs charges?

Have these wimpy pinko Brits never heard of GITMO? That's where we put inferior races who aren't worth charges.

These two were Muslims.

In their home.

In pyjamas.

What the hell more are the authorities waiting for?

Fertilizer!?


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M. Spector
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posted 11 June 2006 07:31 AM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The Forest Gate raid is not the first time that a high profile anti-terrorist operation has resulted in men being released without charge days later. Last October, 10 Iraqi refugees were arrested in Derby, Wolverhampton and Croydon amid media reports of plans for a wave of car bomb attacks across Britain.

The Chancellor, Gordon Brown, said it was one of three major Islamic militant plots foiled since last July. However, security sources have confirmed to The Observer that no evidence of any terror plot was ever found and all the men were freed within a week. Source



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