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lagatta
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posted 18 March 2003 11:48 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Would anyone know if the Cotton Ginny stores (which no longer exist in Québec) are closing?
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Nic
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posted 18 March 2003 12:22 PM      Profile for Nic     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As far as I know they are. My sister works in a Cotton Ginny store in Halifax and she was recently told that they were closing. They might already be closed, I havn't talked to her in a few weeks.
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posted 18 March 2003 12:36 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is a major drag. They have the only trousers that fit me. (big ... er ... hips, smallish waist). Here is what someone said on the vancouverwoman.com forum, about shopping for clothes:

" Xena I was just talking to my mom and shopping for clothes and that is the problem..Winners, etc you can find great finds but you have to hunt.

After Cotton Ginny goes (majority of stores closing) there isn't really a nice place for normal to 'plump' (my mom is only a size 12-14) to shop in. Why should we be relegated to 'hunting' for stuff? Why can't we have nice stores with friendly sales staff to help you out in and NOT pay a fortune.
I am fed up being marginalized by clothing stores catering to teeny teenagers."


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posted 18 March 2003 12:47 PM      Profile for andrean     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Cotton Ginny stores in Toronto are all doing sell-offs, which looks like closure is imminant. I'll be sorry to see them go as well, though to be honest, the clothing in last few seasons has been fairly unspectacular. Really, I can't remember the last time I bought clothing there, but in the past, I had tonnes of cute pullovers, little skirts, funky blouses. Everything seemed to get really frumpy and ugly all of a sudden.

As to your trouser dilemma, my girlfriend is built like you ( big...er...hips , little waist) and sometimes has success at Penningtons (I'm not sure if they are in Quebec?) or at Addition-Elle (which can be expensive but often has good sales. She tends to look for pants that sit on or just above the hips, rather than around the waist which are easy to find this year. Some lower-rise pants are really young looking, that is, made for teenagers, but many are just regular looking jeans or pants. They're very comfortable too.


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posted 18 March 2003 12:58 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In general the clothing at Addition-elle is too big for me. Their trousers are cut much too straight - too big in the waist, and no, I'm not interested in having to have alterations done on casual clothing. There are hundreds and thousands of Mediterranean women who are the same shape I am. (short, too)...

Perhaps they have better clothing at Penningtons than they used to - that used to feature that dreadful, "fat-lady" clothing that looked like aluminium siding. They have a size x that is smaller than the 1x and usually fits me.


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posted 18 March 2003 02:49 PM      Profile for shelby9     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I too was quite disheartened to see Cotton Ginny close - or about to close. But I agree, their clothes of late have been far off the mark with regards to today's fashion.

However, for those of a size 12-18, I'd recommend Northern Reflections or sometimes just called Northern for casual clothes. Sears has some great stuff now, though it's best to go to the store and actually try it on as the catalogue is usually misleading in sizes. Reitmans has a great plus size section. Addition Elle and Laura II are ok, but I find you have to be tall and bigger to fit thier clothes, not to mention you had better be prepared to break the credit cards out as their stuff is expensive. Penningtons is ok, but not my favorite. As strange as this may sound, Zellers has some ok stuff and is quite reasonable. The Bay - when it's on sale can be a good place to look. I've never had any luck at Winners, I refuse to shop there. Short of all that, I like hitting the consignment stores in the ritzier areas of town... they have some fabulous plus stuff, from those who can afford to have label names in their closets!

I'm one of those in between sizes, not quite small enough to fit the regular sizes, not quite big enough to fit into plus sizes. Very frustrating. Sears has become my number one place to shop lately.


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posted 18 March 2003 05:24 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm going to see about hiring a semstress to sew up some designs I've been thinking about for a few years now (I don't sew, otherwise I'd do it myself). I hate shopping and I'd just rather have a few really great, well-made pieces than a bunch of stuff I'm not really happy with. Besides, I like the idea that the clothes I wear, an expression of personal style, would result more from a creative process than a consumer one.
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posted 18 March 2003 05:52 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rebecca, that is a great idea. In the summer I like little cotton or crinkly rayon dresses, that is why I always liked Cotton Ginny. Northern has good quality but it is sometimes VERY dowdy, with too many pastels, horrid screen prints and trousers with pleats. And very few dresses. Sadly, I believe their stuff used to be made in Canada, as was Cotton Ginny at the outset, but now everything is made in the Far East.

A place I really like for sort of fancier, but bohemian clothes is Kaliyana. They haven't got outlets in many cities, I believe only in Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver and now in Toronto. Their batik clothing is made in Indonesia but they claim to be fair trade. They are pricy, but have good sales.


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posted 18 March 2003 10:16 PM      Profile for Vee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I understand from a friend of mine who is now a former store manager that either Cotton Ginny or their parent company has declared bankruptcy. I think that they are owned by the same group that owns Eddie Bauer, but I could be grossly wrong on that.
I, too, have difficulty finding clothes that look okay on this body that seems to have suddenly grown quite plump. Northern Traditions is a favorite for work clothes and their sibling, NR, has been a reliable source of casual clothes despite the dorky screened t-shirts and sweatshirts.

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posted 18 March 2003 10:29 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I understand from a friend of mine who is now a former store manager that either Cotton Ginny or their parent company has declared bankruptcy.

Obviously I don't shop at Cotton Ginny, but the divine Ms M does. Way I read it, it was actually bankruptcy protection, but often enough this is just the last step before bankruptcy anyway. And even if they stave off complete closure, no doubt many of these stores that have closed won't be re-opening.


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posted 18 March 2003 10:59 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, they're all closing here in Kingston too. But the good news is, I found a black corduroy skirt and blazer suit there for less than $40 because of their going out of business sale.

I haven't been happy with their quality or their cut for quite some time now. This suit I bought is the first thing in ages that I've seen there in ages that doesn't look boxy, frumpy, and shapeless. Fat people still have curves - some tailoring please!

Not to mention that the material is pathetic for washing. The t-shirts are so annoying that way. I guess I'm a bit sad, because it's a good place to go if you just want something like a sweater. But I could count on one hand the number of dresses, suits, pants, or other clothes I've bought there that look really nice and flattering on me.


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posted 20 March 2003 10:38 AM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I still find that in most stores, the cut and proportions are wrong for "real" women's bodies (real meaning not model sizes). I wish we had access to good, inexpensive clothing stores that cut and size the European way. As an ex-sewer, I learned this cut is the best for anyone whose front is a bit bigger than their back and also easily fitted for between sizes.

I hadn't found anything wearable in Cotton Ginny for some time, too frumpy. I don't want to look like either an oversized baby, which some of the clothes in all "oversize" stores make you look like, or an old hag.


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posted 20 March 2003 10:58 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pleats are a travesty.
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posted 20 March 2003 11:21 AM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahhh. A dart for pleats.
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posted 20 March 2003 11:37 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, a lot of women who are older than Audra (and plumper than Audra seems to be) think pleats hide tummies when they do exactly the opposite. Things have to be cut properly.

Too bad I never have enough money to shop for clothes in Europe when I'm there. Italian clothing is wonderful, but VERY expensive. There is also lovely clothing in northern Europe (Netherlands, Germany) though it tends to be cut for women a lot taller than I am.

I like things that are a bit sexy-feminine (I don't mean ruffles!!!) with a nice drape. More dresses and skirts than trousers, but need trousers for the bicycle except in warm weather.

I agree that there are few interesting garments at Cotton Ginny any more, but they still make those wonderful "cigarette pants", plain, slim-cut trousers with a bit of lycra. I bought about 6 pairs when they closed down in Ottawa but they are beginning to wear out. Bought a couple more in Ottawa last summer.

My mum always sewed her own clothes, and beautifully so, but I don't really have the time. I would rather work on visual arts and writing.


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posted 21 March 2003 01:40 AM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're right about pleats in pants, they should be the reverse of what the North American pleats are, the way the European's make them.

The cigarette pants are great.


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posted 22 March 2003 07:43 PM      Profile for abnormal   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In mid January they filed for creditor protection and recently announced that they would be selling a number of stores.

That means the brand name will survive but doesn't say anything about the clothing that the new company will be selling.


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posted 22 March 2003 07:45 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Their quality used to be much better, wasn't it?
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posted 22 March 2003 10:56 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, I've got 2 velour dresses and other things that I must have bought ten years ago.

Also reminds me of "Jacob" - not quality but size. I have cotton sweaters and trousers I bought there a long time ago, but since they have "resized" more junior and their new trousers would no longer cover my ... hmm ... shall we say hips?

(I wrote to them and they confirmed that they had done that, it isn't just that I'm older and larger in the beam).


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posted 22 March 2003 11:00 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I always joke about Jacob that their clothes come in Small, Smaller, and Smallest. I mean, I don't expect the clothing to be in my size, but holy moley, they don't even have the sizes that most small-sized stores have.
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posted 22 March 2003 11:41 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And why SHOULDN'T they be in your size? I love those little cotton sweaters in deep colours. And if they made Jacob Plus, given their tiny regular sizes, there would definitely be a plus size not too big for small, plump Mediterranean mamma types like me... Bizarre how the clothing industry only targets teenagers and a small minority of adult women.
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