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Michelle
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posted 06 August 2007 09:28 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Two in one - an interesting political scoop AND a creepy Facebook privacy story.

Not sure what I think of making news out of a 17 year-old's Facebook profile - that creeps me out.

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There's one vote that Rudy Giuliani definitely can't count on in his 2008 presidential bid: his own daughter's. According to the 17-year-old Caroline Giuliani's Facebook profile, she's supporting Barack Obama.

On her profile, she designates her political views as "liberal" and—until this morning—proclaimed her membership in the Facebook group "Barack Obama (One Million Strong for Barack)." According to her profile, she withdrew from the Obama group at 6 a.m. Monday, after Slate sent her an inquiry about it.

In what may be an effort to avoid public connection to her famous father, the future Harvard freshman and recent graduate of Trinity School in Manhattan uses a slight variation of her name on the Facebook site. But she didn't lock her profile, allowing any Facebook user with access to the Harvard or Trinity School networks (more than 42,000 people) to view her detailed profile. (As a Harvard student, I was able to see it.)


[ 06 August 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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Coyote
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posted 06 August 2007 09:33 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Leave the kid alone.
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Michelle
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posted 06 August 2007 09:36 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I didn't make it completely clear in my first post, but the main reason I posted this is because I thought it would be an interesting discussion about whether this is something legitimate to report on.

Apparently she's estranged from her father, and she's 17 years old. I think it kind of sucks that her Facebook profile would be considered "news". On the other hand, she's made her profile public to 42,000 people and publicly declared that she's supporting Obama. On the other hand, she's 17 and probably quite naive about the media and the internet...


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posted 06 August 2007 09:42 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree that she should have been smarter, and I suppose once she joined that group is was just a matter of time until it become public. I feel sorry for her. Kids (hell, adults) do stupid things all the time, hers has unfortunately caught her up in our obsessive celebrity culture.
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Boze
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posted 07 August 2007 12:26 PM      Profile for Boze     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What exactly did she do that was stupid? Declare her political allegiance on facebook?

The only thing she did that sucks is taking some of the info down instead of saying "why yes I do support Barack Obama."

Anyway, I agree that it's silly anyone would want to make an issue out of it - that's just the silly nature of US politics I guess - but I don't think it's creepy, or stalking.

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quelar
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posted 07 August 2007 12:35 PM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't really think she did anything wrong, other than giving any information on Facebook. If you were the estranged child of 'Terror' Rudy and you were progressive at all, you likely wouldn't be voting for him either.

Pulling the information off is likely just her way of saying 'no interviews, I'm not interested in being in the spotlight'...which again, with a father like that, I wouldn't want to have to answer for any of his actions.


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posted 07 August 2007 01:03 PM      Profile for Makwa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Coyote:
Leave the kid alone.
Yeah, really. Can't a young person speak of her political ideas without the whole world getting in her face?

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Michelle
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posted 07 August 2007 01:14 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, more accurately, can't a young woman announce her support for Obama to 42,000 people without one of those people requesting an interview?

It's true that it's because of who she is. But I'm sure that's a small price to pay for the extreme privilege she has had and will continue to have for the rest of her life, being the daughter of a very rich man who will likely be paying her way through Harvard and beyond.

It's a tough lesson to learn, that as one of the moneyed elites more eyes will be on you than would be if your Daddy wasn't rich, the mayor of a city, and running for President. But somehow, I think she'll survive this five minutes of fame. If anything, this was probably the lightest possible "object lesson" she could have had on internet privacy and how to manage publicity if you're rich and famous. So I don't feel TOO bad for her.


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posted 07 August 2007 01:58 PM      Profile for Boze     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Well, more accurately, can't a young woman announce her support for Obama to 42,000 people without one of those people requesting an interview?

Can't someone request an interview from anybody? And, by the same token, can't anybody simply decline to be interviewed? If you're not prepared to stand by your declarations of political allegiance then don't make them.

Facebook, by the way, has everything to do with publicity and nothing to do with privacy.

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posted 07 August 2007 02:06 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why ain't she in Iraq?
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Michelle
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posted 07 August 2007 02:12 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Too busy paaking the caa in Haavaad Yaad.

That said, if she supports Obama, then it's quite possible she's against the war. In which case, why would you expect her to be in Iraq?

I agree with you, Boze. That's the point I was making. You should see the outrage by the poor little rich alumni Harvard types on the Slate comments section. You'd think they killed the woman or something.

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posted 07 August 2007 02:48 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Obama isn't against the war. He's against the conduct of the war. As he's made quite clear, he has no problem with the mass murder of dark skinned people.
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Michelle
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posted 07 August 2007 03:29 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That doesn't mean that Giuliani supports the war.

If I were in the US, I'd probably support one of the Democratic candidates too. Doesn't mean I support the war.

Why would you assume she supports the war? Or did your question stem from her father's support for the war, assuming that he should "send" his child to war?

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posted 07 August 2007 03:41 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Then she should have the honesty to come out and say she opposes the war, instead of hiding her privileged ass in Harvard, all expenses paid by her fascist father.
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posted 07 August 2007 03:43 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uh, what? How do you know what she says and what she doesn't? How do you know she doesn't tell her friends and family that she's against the war? She's not a public figure.
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