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Contrarian
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posted 20 September 2004 09:44 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am a self-employed historical researcher and have the feeling that I do not usually charge enough. I think the most I have charged was $60/hour, and much less for various jobs, for varying reasons. A while ago someone suggested $75/hour was usual. Any comments, or website suggestions?
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posted 20 September 2004 09:54 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few things come to mind about this....

The first is to consider the rate you need to give you the kind of life you want. Have a look at your annual budgeted expenditures (rent, utilities, food, entertainment, vacations, whatever). Then, divide it by the number of hours you expect to be working in the year. Make allowances (if applicable) for the number of hours you might need to do networking or other forms of marketing. You may not be able to work 2000 hours a year if you have to take time away for business development, holidays, etc.

The second thing is to see what you can do about finding what the market is paying. Is there a professional association you can contact? Does it keep data or recommendations on billing rates?

Next, could you get a sense of what people doing similar work get paid? What about technical writers for example? Is there enough overlap that their rates might help? Are there other professions that might be a better match to be helpful.

Finally, remember that the difference between a $5000 speech and a $15000 speech is $10000. If you put your heart and soul into your work, as most self-employeds do, make sure you get the best value for your work you can.


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posted 20 September 2004 10:09 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Keep increasing your rate in $5 increments until such time as someone says, "I'll call back," and doesn't, or until someone says with genuine astinishment, "you're kidding." Then revert back to the last $5 increment and stay there for a while. They call it what the market will bear.
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posted 21 September 2004 12:06 AM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I do some historical/element research in the documentary field. This is a smallish market, but my research minimum is $250 a day, which I ususally calculate out at about 8 hours.

My writing fee, however, is considerably higher.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 21 September 2004 10:27 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I do some consulting (communications, lobbying, fundraising) on the side -- in what I jokingly refer to as "my spare time". I've found that I have to overcome an inclination to charge too little.

My powers can only be used for good, so I end up working for causes and organizations that I care about, many of whom I know have very limited resources. I've often been shocked to find out what they are paying other consultants / professionals and have upped my own rates to be closer to what others charge.

It's also, quite simply, a matter of being taken seriously. I once missed out on a strategic planning contract because the board of the organization was convinced that I couldn't possibly have the same experience and abilities as the other consultant if I charged such a modest fee.

As well, my time with my family is precious, so any time that I spend on special projects (on top of my day job) is worth more to me.


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Wilf Day
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posted 21 September 2004 10:32 AM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
I've found that I have to overcome an inclination to charge too little.

You have not yet, however, overcome a reluctance to say how much you charge.


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posted 21 September 2004 11:54 AM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm an archaeologist. Not quite an historical researcher, but close.

At the U of Manitoba, we had a person from Golder International come in to speak to us about professional development, so we asked her about what to charge for our services.

She said the usual way is to determine what your annual salary is, figure out what hourly rate that works out to for full-time work, and multiply by 2.3.

So £35000/year works out to £17.50 an hour, multiply and you get about £40 an hour. That is _apparently_ how consulting businesses charge out their employees: in other words, the corporation gets $40 an hour, you get $17.50. Since you're asking for freelance work, her suggestion was to follow the same procedure. The excess in this case goes not only to profits, but also to equipment, transport, everything the company you work for would be providing you on top of your hourly wage.

Was that any help?


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Timebandit
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posted 21 September 2004 12:21 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I tend to negotiate a fee up and down, depending on the project, too. If I'm doing it for a low-budget regional project, I'm inclined to give them a bit of a deal. If it's a national-broadcast project with a decent budget, I charge more. Sometimes it matters who the client is.
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posted 21 September 2004 01:15 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, everybody, for your good advice; it is very helpful to me.

I had been working on a major contract for years, which has now stopped; so the frequency and length of future jobs is uncertain. Still, there are some possibilities on the horizon. I guess I really do live in interesting times!


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posted 21 September 2004 01:24 PM      Profile for dnuttall     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree that 2.3 x take home is a good way to check that your numbers aren't out of whack. Our industry has it up to 2.75x takehome, but generally about 2.5x.

Another way is to ask some of your competitors to sub-consult on a project or two. They'll give you a price that will be a little bit higher that what you should be able to do it for. We have done that on two occasions, and it worked well. You don't make any money on that project, but your price will be right on for the next one.

A friend of mine is a Yoga teacher/holistic naturopath in Chelsea, QC. She has said: 7 hours a day, 4 days a week, 3 weeks a month, 10 months a year = 840 hours. You should be able to have a comfortable lifestyle working this much at your after-expences income. So if you have expences that run $15/hr (accounting, insurance, etc), then that $75/hr becomes $50400/yr. If that is comfortable, then you are in a good line of work.


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posted 05 October 2004 12:54 PM      Profile for CYL688   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:
I am a self-employed historical researcher and have the feeling that I do not usually charge enough. I think the most I have charged was $60/hour, and much less for various jobs, for varying reasons. A while ago someone suggested $75/hour was usual. Any comments, or website suggestions?


I think you should work backwards from what you would consider a reasonable annual salary. Divide by how many hours you expect to work, factor in vacation time, health care costs, transportation and all the other business costs and go from there.


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