I've seen it as low as 89.5 in Nepean and as High as 99 a litre across the river in hull.

CBC did a review of Govt. gasoline taxes the other night that went something like this:

USA: 29%

Canada: 40 - 60%

UK: 70%

[ 02 May 2006: Message edited by: 'topherscompy ]

I drive between Natashuan and Sept-Iles on occasion. Sept-Iles is a city of 20,000 people - no local public transportation whatsoever other than school buses for students. Gas was 99.9 when I was there in June, it's likely higher now. There's 400 km of distance between Sept-Iles and Natashquan. Driving is the only option other than expensive air flights, and a once-weekly trip on the supply ship.

I'd love to see gas taxes go up in those cities where you have good access to subsidized public transportation; but _for the rest of us_, the taxes should come down. Here, we're getting fuck all from the taxes we pay in gasoline.

[ 10 August 2005: Message edited by: Boom Boom ]

recent high - 110.5

recent low - 90.9

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Can someone tell me how direct the link is between these gas prices for cars that you are discussing and the price of natural gas (for living spaces)?

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The are two completely different products. Gas for cars is refined from crude oil, while natural gas is from, well, natural gas. One link between them is the fact they are both energy commidities in a demand-driven market.

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Originally posted by skdadl:
Thank you, Nam. Next question: does any of this have any impact on hydro prices?

And why, btw, do we refer to "hydro" when the electricity (in Ontario, anyway) is mainly not coming from water power at all?

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
You could always say "I'm paying my electric bill". What's hard about that?

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Originally posted by Nam:

The are two completely different products. Gas for cars is refined from crude oil, while natural gas is from, well, natural gas. One link between them is the fact they are both energy commidities in a demand-driven market.

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Another link is that the people who drill for gas also drill for oil. One of these people has just been killed in that search.

A 24-year-old man was killed and three others injured when an oil well containing sour gas exploded Tuesday near the southern Alberta community of Brooks.

I used to work on drilling rigs in the gas fields around Brooks, so I take this story somewhat personally.

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Originally posted by Contrarian:
The posted price refers to which gas? It's been posted at 94.5 cents in Calgary for a couple of weeks at least, but when I bought regular gas the other day I paid 91 cents, as Nam mentioned. So does the price advertised by each gas station always refer to the superduper special gas? If it does not, then how can anyone compare them?

94.5 cents is pretty high for Calgary; the price is usually higher in summer and should go down later.

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The gas stations in Saskatoon advertise the regular gas prices, the better gas is always priced higher, but they don't advertise that.

Right now regular unleaded is going for 94.9¢/litre. There is no way I could afford to live if I was still driving my car. It's sitting parked in my driveway and I'm trying to sell it, no luck thus far but we'll see.

edit: Holy shit, al-Qa'bong, that's a scary story. A good friend of mine is rigging up there and reading that gave me the shivers (coincidentally he's 24 as well). I'm going to phone a buddy to see if he's heard about it.

[ 10 August 2005: Message edited by: Nikita ]

But now we've shot up to $2.29 a gallon and we have been told to expect $2.50 a gallon US by early September (our Labor Day).

I guess $2.50 a US gallon is at about 61 cents US a liter US or about .77 cents CDN a liter by comparsion. I guess that's still a big bargain for you folks.

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$1.20/liter here a few days ago; the pump owner may have raised his price since.

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Of course, because the tanker truck arrived.... right?

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Thank you, Nam. Next question: does any of this have any impact on hydro prices?

And why, btw, do we refer to "hydro" when the electricity (in Ontario, anyway) is mainly not coming from water power at all?

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Yes, price of oil and natural gas has an impact on hydro prices because alot, most(?) of electricity is generated by burning those energy sources.

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Depends on where you are. We still have coal-fired plants here in Ontario...although they're scheduled to be phased-out by the end of the decade.

The U.S. generates alot of its electricity via coal-fired plants...mainly because they still have lots of it.

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Perhaps most telling, every gas station in town here has invested in buying a new sign with the extra digit. The psychological 1.00 barrier has been breached - next stop $2.

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Originally posted by The Hegemo:
I saw $2.39 a (U.S.) gallon on my way to work this morning. It's been costing me $20+ per tank to fill up my little Saturn -- gives me immense schadenfreude to think of the douchebags paying $100 a tank to fill their Hummers.

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thanks for the laugh!

But then again, I think those people figure they could afford the behemoth, then its a status symbol to fill the tank.

Wont ever go down. China is a thirsty, thirsty country who's demands for oil will double in the next 5 years.

As a small buisness owner that relys on a vehicle to earn part of my living, I'm desperately looking for a cheaper alternative than fossil fuel.

Bring back electric trolly cars for public transport!!!!!

Just an update though, gas went up to 1.10 in Halifax today!

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Upper Canadians always say Hydro....I dunno why.

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Just tradition -- when Ontario Hydro was formed in 1906 (as the Hydro-Electric Power Commission), all it did was transmit electricity generated hydro-electrically at Niagara Falls.

So "hydro" was just a convenient short form for "electricity."

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[ 02 May 2006: Message edited by: 'topherscompy ]

Getting people active to fuel some kind of action seem to be the same dribble over and over again. People just seem to content to pay any price and there is no one listening to you, becuase it's all been heard before.

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Guess what doesn't cost a buck and change a litre to move? My legs! (it probably costs substantially more in food, though...)

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Further sharp increases like this will start the dominoes rolling on the supply chains of companies like Wal-Mart. You have got to believe people are starting to get really nervous now. We weren't supposed to hit $2.50 until the first week of September.

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Originally posted by Clog-boy:
Prizes here in Holland, for regular unleaded: 1,30 euro/liter, which comes down to about 1,50 USD/liter

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Holy smokes. That's, what, about US$5.25 per gallon? Yikes. I'm paying about $2 a gallon right now (down from nearly $3 per gallon a couple of months ago).

Edited to Add: The differential between what you pay and what I pay is basically taxes, no?

[ 24 November 2005: Message edited by: Sven ]

"Damn you, Keyser Soze!"

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A shake-down by my own overnment...

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The trams in Amsterdam (poem?) are lovely things.

The public tranportation (PT) is pretty good indeed. The coverage is quite ok, although not perfect (if you live in the north of NL, you're kinda screwed). You harldy ever step out of PT right in front of your goal. Also, reliability of the PT varies a lot.

As for my own situation: Drving to work and to my parents (who live in a nearby village) are my most common car-trips. Drving to my parents by car takse me 20mins, if I go by PT it'll take met 1,5hrs.
My company is located at an industrial zone, which is only visited by PT each morning and afternoon (between 8 and 9 and between 16 and 17). We got 5 shifts at work, of which none coincide with the PT-schedule.
I could take my bike (40 min. drive) instead of my car (8 min. drive), but although we don't have too much cold, snow or ice, we (I)do[/I] have plenty of rain (which often comes unannounced). I'd rather take cold, snow or ice over getting soaked anyday...
I know there are things called rain-suits, but wearing those often makes you sweat like a pig (do pigs sweat?), causing you to arrive soaked (and smelly) afterall.

[ 24 November 2005: Message edited by: Clog-boy ]

No one should plan on gas prices going down. The demand for oil is so high and the supply really isn't going to increase that much. With economies like India and China thirsting for oil, we won't see a drop in oil prices before a new alternative energy source becomes conventional.

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"I could take my bike (40 min. drive) instead of my car (8 min. drive), "
you either ride really slow or drive very fast.

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[Edit: Or maybe I just should've read one post further, seeing R.B.'s reply, thus making my current post obsolete.. D'oh! ]

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It went to $1.25ish in Aug-Sept, back down to $.96 cents today. This is pretty much where it was exactly a year ago here.