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Topic: Nepal: ongoing abuse of LGBT people
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Hephaestion
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posted 20 April 2005 08:25 AM
queerday reports:
quote: Police attacked a group of 18 metis (a traditional term for biological males who dress and identify as women) who were walking toward a festival in Kathmandu. Nine were severely beaten with batons, gun butts, and sticks.
Reuters alertnet.org
quote: (Geneva, April 19, 2005) -- Police in Kathmandu attacked a group of transgender people on Wednesday, underscoring the vulnerability of all Nepalese to police abuse since King Gyanendra seized direct power in February and suspended most civil liberties, Human Rights Watch said today. On April 13-the Nepalese New Year's Eve-police attacked 18 metis (a traditional term for biological males who dress and identify as women) who were walking toward a festival in Kathmandu. Nine were severely beaten with batons, gun butts, and sticks.
"This attack is only the latest of a string of police assaults in Nepal against transgender people," said Scott Long, director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights Program at Human Rights Watch. "In a country where political and civil rights have been suspended, the violence sends a message that no one who looks or acts differently can feel safe."
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spatrioter
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posted 20 April 2005 05:50 PM
Actually, TG can include those who have had a sex change. quote: Broadly speaking, transgender people are individuals whose gender expression and/or gender identity differs from conventional expectations based on the physical sex they were born into. The word transgender is an umbrella term which is often used to describe a wide range of identities and experiences, including: FTMs, MTFs, cross-dressers, drag queens, drag kings, gender queers, and many more. Because transgender is an umbrella term, it is often thought to be an imprecise term that does not adequately describe the particulars of specific identities and experiences. (For example, the identity/experience of a post-operative FTM transsexual will probably be very different from that of a female-identified drag king who performs on weekends, but both are often lumped together under the term "transgender.")
Great terminology listing
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ShyViolet
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posted 20 April 2005 06:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion: Exactly right, SV, except in reverse... transsexual= had a sex change transgender= dresses like opposite sex, but hasn't had a sex change
ok, thank you.... i'm forever getting them reversed!
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spatrioter
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posted 20 April 2005 09:34 PM
quote: Let me pose the case of a male who becomes female. Rather than wearing ordinary or plain clothes, the tendency seems to be for flashier clothing and perhaps more make-up etc?
If your only experience with trans-identified people is watching drag shows, I can see why you might be under that impression. You're operating under the assumption that you can tell who is trans and who is not. Think about all the supposedly "normal" people you know, and consider that some of them may be trans, and you don't even know it. quote: I just find it interesting that transexxuals are not really gender benders at all, but actually gender conformists
You're disregarding genderqueers, genderfucks, and others who abide by no gender rules at all. And I think your opinions on gender conformity are an observation on human nature in general - not trans people.Regardless, I think overanalyzing other people's identities and choices is a waste of time, and offensive. If I had people constantly questioning my motives for identifying as male, I'd be pissed off. I realize you didn't mean to offend, though.
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Cartman
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posted 20 April 2005 09:57 PM
quote: You're operating under the assumption that you can tell who is trans and who is not.
True enough. I will accept that point. quote: I think overanalyzing other people's identities and choices is a waste of time, and offensive. If I had people constantly questioning my motives for identifying as male, I'd be pissed off.
I understand the argument and have heard it before. My interest is in gender in general and not the motivations of one specific group.Thanx for the response.
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Hephaestion
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posted 14 January 2006 04:30 AM
Nepal accused of attempting a gay genocide
quote: An international human rights organization has joined local LGBT activists in accusing the government of Nepal of trying to wipe out gays and transsexuals.
In a harshly worded letter to the Home Ministry, Human Rights Watch calls on the government " to intervene to ensure that allegations of police abuse are fully investigated."
"Human Rights Watch is gravely concerned by a continuing pattern of arbitrary arrest and police violence against metis (men by birth who identify as women, and might in different cultural circumstances be called transgender people), men who have sex with men, and activists for sexual rights in Kathmandu," the letter signed by Scott Long, the director of HRW's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights Program.
The latest reported incident occurred on January 3 when four police officers reportedly spotted a group of metis on the street in Katmandu.and shouted, "Metis! Kill them!"
One woman was beaten with a baton. A police officer pulled his gun and pointed it at her, threatening that "These [transsexuals] pollute the society and must be cleaned out". The two other metis also were beaten severely.
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Human Rights Watch detailed the all of the allegations in its letter and called for swift action.
It calls on the government to release any sexual minorities being held in jail, that persons found responsible for abuse are punished, and that police and other criminal-justice officials "are trained in respect for all people1s human rights, including the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people."
The government has refused to comment.
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