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Topic: UFCW leaders face intimidation charge
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unionist
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posted 20 July 2007 05:49 AM
Are we allowed to know:1. The particulars of the complaint; 2. The particulars of the response; before making our ruling? Or, does "presumed innocent" only apply to people accused of murder?
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N.Beltov
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posted 20 July 2007 07:48 AM
"charge" is a word usually reserved for criminal matters. This conflict centers around an Unfair Labour Practice (or several ULPs) filed by the Canadian Office and Professional Employees Union (COPE) against the employer, UFCW local 832. COPE webpage They have 34,000 members with 47 locals and they are a CLC affiliate. There's nothing on their web page, yet, about this conflict. Of course, any conflict that could put any union in a bad light will get lots of "mainstream" media coverage. Babblers should do their own homework in such cases. These conflicts between unions and their employees can get pretty weird. Having noted that, COPE looks like a legit union that promotes women in its membership, is involved in the all-Canadian, Provincial and Municipal levels of union organization in Canada, and seems to be growing. [ 20 July 2007: Message edited by: N.Beltov ]
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unionist
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posted 20 July 2007 09:58 AM
The Free Press article says the parties were involved in a "bitter, three-month strike earlier this year".The COPE website, however, says the strike lasted five weeks. I wonder how much else in the Free Press article was wrong? COPE says that the employer (UFCW Local 832) ended up dropping their concession demands (including the 2-tier pay for new hires) - but that the workers signed a 4-year deal with no wage increases, and that "wages were never the issue, it was future workers and their well being that led to this strike". Anyone know what the wages are? If our union negotiated a 4-year deal with no increases, there would be the busy hum of scaffolds being erected.
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unionist
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posted 20 July 2007 06:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by munroe: I hear you, unionist, but at least in B.C. the applicant does not necessarily have the right to simply choose the venue.
Oh, I agree, and I didn't mean to suggest the applicant had the choice. But let's say the scenario is like this (I'm just inventing details): 1. Two COPE activists fired in March; COPE grieves, citing anti-union animus. 2. In April, two local UFCW staffers are alleged to be spying on COPE members trying to meet with national officials. COPE grieves, citing some article of the collective agreement or other, also citing generally harassment, and maybe also an article of the Manitoba Labour Relations Act (using the Parry Sound principle that employment-type statutes can be considered as forming part of the c.a.). 3. In May, management issues a memo saying, no coffee at work station and no more personal calls. There is no direct violation of c.a., but union grieves anyway, citing the KVP principle in regard to unreasonable rules not being usable for discipline, and claiming also that management is estopped from changing some long-standing practice without proper notice... etc. In the normal course, each of these situations (and maybe others - we haven't seen the complaint) would wend their way toward arbitration - separately. COPE might win some, all, or none of them. But if COPE is indeed alleging that they were all part of a coordinated scheme to rid the workplace of the union, it would be very hard, perhaps impossible, to plead the case(s) in that fashion. Conclusion: I understand why they went to the board, and I'm wondering if even in B.C. (despite my total lack of familiarity with the particularity of the code there) your board might not accept jurisdiction given the problem I outlined above in fulling dealing with the underlying issue at arbitration.
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