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Topic: America's Descent Into Madness Part 8
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majorvictory
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posted 11 May 2003 12:47 AM
Secret Service Questions Students quote:
It happened at Oakland High. The discussion was about the war in Iraq. That's when two students made comments about the President of the United States. While the exact wording is up for debate, the teacher didn't consider it mere criticism, but a direct threat and she called the Secret Service. Teacher Cassie Lopez says, "They were so shaken up and afraid." "When one of the students asked, 'do we have to talk now? Can we be silent? Can we get legal council?' they were told, 'we own you, you don't have any legal rights,'" Felson says.
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Flowers By Irene
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posted 11 May 2003 01:09 AM
I read about this earlier today. Geez, I still don't know quite what to say. A direct threat is serious, and should be followed up; but I don't know what was said, so I don't know if there was a threat or not. At any rate, the questioning of these students without counsel or parents, the "we own you" and all, I mean, really WTF? Sounds like an all-expence paid power trip.
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beluga2
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posted 11 May 2003 04:48 AM
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"I tell you the looks on those childrens faces. I don't know if they'll say anything about anything ever again. Is that what we want?"
Yes, it apparently is. A nation of mutes, mindlessly waving the flag. 2 down, 289,999,998 to go. First they came for the high school students, but I was not a high school student so I said nothing...
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spindoctor
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posted 11 May 2003 03:35 PM
In many ways, these kinds of developments bother me far more than a new, more aggressive foreign policy.To me, this is about the loss of America's soul. I'm more than ready to give American society the benefit of the doubt and claim that in the past, it had a vibrant, democratic culture; a culture where dissent was allowed and individual opinion was protected. Even if you disagree with that fact, then at the very least, one must agree that the very intentions of the American constitution have been swept away. Perhaps this is not a new observation, but I do feel that these kinds of developments are far more worrisome than a more aggressive foreign policy. A questioning, critical electorate can be a significant hindrance to the most-hawkish of foreign policies. Once you've silenced the population, however, it's bombs away. Sad. So very sad.
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From: Kingston, Jamaica.....oh alright....Kingston, Ontario | Registered: Jul 2001
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skdadl
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posted 14 May 2003 10:33 AM
Harry Balzac, why do you consider that a low? I've watched it before, astounded -- but do you have information to counter any of the Bush family history recounted there?I recommend everyone follow HB's link. And: quote:
All some ultra-nationalistic Americans "need" now is to add a snappy, straight-armed salute to top it all off.
The hand-over-the-heart number has been bothering me for decades already. Why do they like doing that?
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muggetywumpus
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posted 14 May 2003 03:36 PM
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Harry Balzac, why do you consider that a low? I've watched it before, astounded -- but do you have information to counter any of the Bush family history recounted there?
Umm.. I think HB is referring to the link HE posted... that truly is a new low
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muggetywumpus
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posted 14 May 2003 04:04 PM
Some more stuff on that "Deck of Evil"--there's a good idea in here somewhere!http://www.fair.org/media-beat/030508.html
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