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Topic: Blood/organ donor ban on LGBTs under increasing attack
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Hephaestion
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posted 05 September 2005 06:43 PM
These stories are becoming relatively common -- a "theme", even -- so I am changing the thread title to be more inclusive, and I will henceforth put ALL LGBT-blood/organ donor stories here...
quote: (Rome) Italy's health minister has ordered an inquiry into a Milan hospital that refused to allow a gay man to donate blood. Under Italian law gays cannot be turned away as blood donors.
Last week, Paolo Pedote, a 39-year-old writer, was told by the Policlinico Hospital that he was ineligible to donate blood after he informed a nurse that he is gay.
When he was told the hospital refused to accept blood from gays Pedote reminded the nurse that Italian law does not discriminate.
He was then informed that the decision was based on an "internal policy" not to accept gay male donors.
Health Minister Francesco Storace on Monday called the hospital's position "very serious and unacceptable".
"We intend to determine the administrative responsibility," Storace said in announcing the inquiry. "But what has happened could also be grounds for a criminal investigation."
The hospital refuses to budge. Paolo Rebulla, the director of the Policlinico's transfusion center, told the Corriere della Sera newspaper that he stands by the staff's position.
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Gays are currently banned from donating blood in the US, Canada, Australia and a number of other countries.
[ 27 October 2005: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]
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somewildthingsgo
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posted 25 November 2005 12:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Michelle: Is there a "right" to donate blood? I'm not so sure about that.Although I agree that this kind of discrimination is pretty stupid.
You're right, actually, I think there was a guy who challenged this in Quebec and they said that there was no legal 'right' to donate blood. Having had sex with a man since 1977 isn't just a 'temporary deferral,' it's an 'indefinite' one.
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skdadl
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posted 25 November 2005 12:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tape_342:
Well, golly, then that's two strikes against my diseased, decrepit, gay, icky poo-poo organs. Ya try to do something nice....
Tape, I hear you. It's just a bit of a letdown to hear that they don't want ... anything, even good eyes. But that reminds me of yet another rule. I think that anyone who has spent a certain amount of time (and it's not much -- months) in Britain during the significant years (whichever those were -- 1980s and 90s?) cannot donate blood either because of the CJD problem.
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Hephaestion
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posted 25 November 2005 02:41 PM
It's not "silly", Ichy, it's discriminatory and wrong, and it perpetuates the stereotype that AIDS is a "gay disease". It's kind of like the Catholic church weeding out the gay priests as a "solution" to child abuse.... ergo, people conclude, gays are responsible for HIV-contaminated blood; gays are responsible for child abuse. It's bullshit.
If they *really* wanted to pinpoint risky donors, they'd pay special attention to young, heterosexual women, where HIV infection is growing by leaps and bounds, to the point (in BC, at least) where it's reaching near-epidemic proportions. Why don't we see something like that?
Simple... because everyone just knows it's the homos that are the cause of all of this... right?
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Ichy Smith
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posted 25 November 2005 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion: It's not "silly", Ichy, it's discriminatory and wrong, and it perpetuates the stereotype that AIDS is a "gay disease". It's kind of like the Catholic church weeding out the gay priests as a "solution" to child abuse.... ergo, people conclude, gays are responsible for HIV-contaminated blood; gays are responsible for child abuse. It's bullshit.If they *really* wanted to pinpoint risky donors, they'd pay special attention to young, heterosexual women, where HIV infection is growing by leaps and bounds, to the point (in BC, at least) where it's reaching near-epidemic proportions. Why don't we see something like that? Simple... because everyone just knows it's the homos that are the cause of all of this... right?
Ok but I think it will be far easier to change if we laugh at them than if we storm in wearing our Gay armbands preaching at them. I think that pointing out that every donor can now be tested onsite at the time of donation "will secure the blood supply" is better than screaming that this is more hideous discrimination.
I think pointing out that the Red Cross needs blood but turns down Blood Donors because of an antiquated rule is a better method than trying what isn't working already. I think an organised protest asking how many people must die because of the laziness of the policymakers of the Red Cross is a better way to go at this than simply whining about discrimination. Saying they discriminate against Gays isn't working. Saying they are once again failing the Canadian Public by failing to use the best possible policies might.
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Ichy Smith
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posted 25 November 2005 04:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion: Ichy--1. Yeah, laughing at them works, all right. Laughter and mocking got us included in the hate speech legislation. It also got us covered by the Human Rights Code, expanded marriage to include us, won us the right to adopt, or make life-altering decisions when our partner/lover/spouse is incapacitated. It allowed us to inherit said partner/lover/spouse's property, and got us included in their employee benefits packages at work. Why, it even got us decriminalized in 1969. Amazing what a sense of humour can do! 2. The Canadian Red Cross doesn't even collect blood any more; they killed off too many people already (remember the Krever Inquiry?) It's Canadian Blood Services now... 3. Who's talking about "whining"? I'm talking about somebody should sue their discriminatory asses! [ 25 November 2005: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]
So Sue them, go ahead. I am not eligible to donate blood and haven't been since the 1970's so I can't. It really isn't hard to sue them, you find a lawyer and walk in, tell him what you want to do, and put your money on the table. Don't talk about it, just go do it.
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Ichy Smith
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posted 25 November 2005 06:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nikita: Dismissing the homosexual community for demanding CBS allow them to give blood is a sad, pathetic tactic Ichy.
I can remember raging about the police in Toronto because a friend of mine had been murdered, and the police weren't concerned enough to investigate very hard. no it was not solved. I can remember when as night Manager of the St Charles tavern, I called the police, because a suspected serial killer had come into the bar, (they gave us a poster of him) and them taking 3 hours to drive the 3 blocks to see if they could pick him up. I can remember getting out of a cab on Richmond street in the middle of the bath house raids. and I can remember marching with my friends after the raids. I can remember hearing about how the cops beat the street kids in order to get information out of them. I can even remember when Jack Layton was dedicated to closing one of the Gay Clubs, it was called the manatee cause the neighbours couldn't sleep. But in the 35 years I have been out of the closet, I have never had anyone call me dismissive of my own community.
I have been living with this struggle for a long long time, and I honestly believe that sometimes we have to try a different tactic, just to keep from being bored to death with the constant tension and that was what I suggested. When you have been fighting for the right to be alive for 35 years, Nikita, be sure to get back to me about being dismissive. I will be about 93, but that just happens to be my very favourite number.
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Hephaestion
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posted 02 December 2005 12:55 AM
Gay actor's organ donation rejected quote: Albert Soto passed away this weekend and the actor and community activist had plans to help others as an organ donor, only his body parts have been rejected because he was gay. "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has established guidelines allowing centers to reject donations from men who have had sex with men within the past five years," said Sara Pace Jones, a spokeswoman with the Donor Network of Arizona. The decision has rightfully outraged Soto's family. "It's an odd thing to have to deal with," said Anthony Bernal, 32, Soto's godson and nephew. "You're trying to mourn, but you're getting caught up in the trampoline of ups and downs of politics," Bernal said. Bernal said Soto is being robbed of his last wish.
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Reality. Bites.
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posted 14 December 2005 09:41 PM
Canadian Blood Services Announces Changes to Board of Directors ... In addition, five new members have been appointed by the Ministers of Health to the Board of Directors in the following areas: Mr. Thomas Warner - Toronto, Ontario Mr. Warner is Vice-President and Registrar of the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Canada. He has provincial and national-level experience on human rights commissions and task forces, including time spent as an Ontario Human Rights Commissioner. Mr. Warner is a Fellow and former President of the Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators in Canada. He is also a founding member and spokesperson for the Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights in Ontario. http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/December2005/14/c0399.html [ 14 December 2005: Message edited by: RealityBites ]
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Mr Clean
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posted 14 January 2006 08:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion: Saving the evidence; Audra & Michelle have already been e-mailed. [ 14 January 2006: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]
So scared....are they really threats? No one takes them seriously. Loser! [ 14 January 2006: Message edited by: Mr Clean ]
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Raging Bull
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posted 14 January 2006 11:14 AM
this is sad[Huge image deleted by Michelle - sad indeed.] [ 14 January 2006: Message edited by: Michelle ]
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Hephaestion
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posted 31 January 2006 12:52 AM
Vermont university won't boot Red Cross for discriminating against gays quote: The American Red Cross can continue holding blood drives at the University of Vermont despite a complaint that a ban on sexually active gay men giving blood violates the school's nondiscrimination policy, campus officials have ruled."Donating blood is an individual choice and action -- not rising to the definition of protected activity in the case of discrimination or equal protection," Michael Gower, the university's vice president for administration, wrote in a Jan. 17 letter detailing the school's position. Kathryn Friedman, head of the school's affirmative action office, had recommended that the university curtail Red Cross blood drives. That came after a complaint by a former student that the school condoned discrimination against gay men by allowing the Red Cross on campus. [...] National Red Cross officials have said that the Food and Drug Administration won't allow it to accept blood from sexually active gay men, for fear it could be tainted with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. The FDA last considered whether to revise its policy in 2000, when a panel of FDA specialists voted 7-6 to maintain the ban.
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Hephaestion
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posted 24 February 2006 05:05 AM
Australian activist Rodney Croome writes:
quote: Isn't this scandalous! The Australian Red Cross is running a poster competition to celebrate difference and combat discrimination.
According to the promotion,
"In the current environment where discrimination and racial tensions are high the Poster Competition aims to recognise and celebrate our differences but also to highlight our common humanity and promote respect for one another despite where we come from, what our age is, how much money we have, whether we are male or female, our beliefs, physical appearance and abilities."
I guess it's no surprise that "sexual orientation" is missing from that list.
If the Red Cross wants to do something effective about discrimination it can start with its own policy banning all gay and bisexual men from giving blood regardless of the safety of their sexual practices.
This policy unfairly and unnecessarily stigmatises all gay and bisexual men as a threat to public health.
But the Red Cross isn't listening.
It's happy to grind up the self esteem of young gay men to manufacture a false sense of public security.
And then to camouflage that crime with colourful, smiling posters.
Babblers may note that the press release Rodney links to above includes contact information for the Australian Red Cross. If anyone wants to get in touch and let the ARC know what you think of their rather selective campaign, and their hypocrisy, here is the information you need:
Kerry Laurie
National Youth Participation Project Officer
Youth & Education Services
Australian Red Cross
155 Pelham St
Carlton Vic 3053
AUSTRALIA
ph: + 61 3 9345 1898
fax: + 61 3 9348 2496
email: [email protected]
Also, there is more info. on the contest at their website: www.redcross.org.au
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Hephaestion
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posted 22 March 2006 03:59 PM
As repugnant as these freaks are at this hate site, lifesite is reporting that
quote: The Montreal Gazette reports that Hema Quebec, the agency that oversees blood donations, will not be reviewing its policy of banning sexually active homosexuals from donation drives. [Assorted hatred and lies] In the US, the Food and Drug Administration is caving to pressure to revise its blood donor screening policy and three major US blood agencies are recommending cutting the ban to a year after a man has had sex with another man. [More lies and hatred]
[Hatred, lies, lies and hatred]
Pressure is mounting from the left, however. Commission scolaire de Montreal threatened in 2004 to halt all blood drives in its schools unless Hema-Quebec agreed to drop references to homosexuality in its questionnaire.
[Cites unnamed "study" by unnamed authors who are supposedly doctors that provides an alleged basis for yet *more* hatred and lies]
The Canadian Hemophilia society are pleased the decision is not likely to change. David Page, the organization's spokesman said that hemophiliacs, who must receive repeated blood transfusions, recognize that the incidence of blood transmitted disease is high among homosexual men.
"A one-year ban is not enough," Canadian Hemophilia Society spokesman David Page told the Gazette. "The information we have now is [such a change] would increase the health risk, not of HIV, but of either unknown or emerging viruses."
Well, there we go right there: "would increase the health risk, not of HIV, but of either unknown or emerging viruses."
So, it's not about the threat of HIV, it's about the possible eventual threat of hypothetical diseases that we have to ban blood donation from gays. Right.
Who knew that the Canadian Hemophilia Society is headed up by such an ignorant, bigoted ASSHOLE.
Please, please write a letter about this, people. This STINKS!
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