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Webgear
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posted 11 June 2006 07:42 PM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
People’s Republic of China: Sustaining conflict and human rights abuses

"China is emerging as one of the world’s major arms exporters. It is increasing its reach and influence in Asia, Africa and Latin America, and arms sales are an integral part of the trade links it is developing with countries in these and other parts of the world. Over the last 20 years China has supplied a range of military, security and police equipment to countries with a record of gross human rights violations. Much international debate about China’s controls on arms exports has focused on the transfer of nuclear or long-range missile technology to countries such as Iran, North Korea and Pakistan. Yet the routine export of conventional weapons and small arms has been contributing to human rights violations including in brutal armed conflicts."


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rici
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posted 11 June 2006 10:30 PM      Profile for rici     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Webgear:
People’s Republic of China: Sustaining conflict and human rights abuses

Eerily similar to another paper available from the Amnesty site, the
Control Arms report on G8 arms sales (pdf):

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p. 27:
The USA continues to dominate the international arms market. It is a world leader in both arms exports and production. It ranked first among the world’s conventional arms suppliers between 1996 and 2003... Between 2000 and 2003 Saudi Arabia was the largest purchaser of defence articles from the USA; its purchases totalled US$6.3 billion.

The USA also remains the world’s largest exporter of small arms, light weapons and ammunition...

Significant arms transfers have been made from the USA to recipients in countries where there are major and persistent human rights concerns. These include Colombia, Egypt, India, Israel, Nigeria, the Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, and Venezuela.


I think I've quoted part of the section about Canada from that report before.

Of course, there is a difference between China and the United States. The Chinese government controls its arms industry, whereas the US arms industry controls its government.

The end result is the same, though. Rich people get richer and poor people get killed.

I've always found it curious that the US justifies the arms industry by blaming the consumers, while demonifying the cocaine industry by blaming the producers. Surely if the US has the right to fumigate coca crops, then the victims of the arms industry has the right to destroy armament factories.

You cannot talk peace while profiting from conflict, "acá o en la china" ("here or in China", a Spanish idiom which seems particularly apt).

If the UN's Human Rights Council should only have as members countries with a good human rights record, it logically follows that the Security Council should only have as members countries with a good security record; arms sellers need not apply. That might limit membership to Leichtenstein, Andorra and Costa Rica, but on the other hand, the world might be a safer place under their leadership.


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posted 12 June 2006 12:02 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chortle.
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sgm
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posted 13 June 2006 12:48 PM      Profile for sgm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Globe editorialized this morning on "China's Arms Trade" (sub-only, sorry):
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Many arms producers deserve plenty of blame for making their weapons so easily obtainable by repressive regimes, terrorist groups and gangs of marauding thugs engaged in bloody conflicts and attacks on civilians in Africa, the Middle East and other volatile parts of the world. But as Amnesty International points out in a damning new report, few can hold a candle to China and its state-controlled arms industry.
I searched the Globe's archives for last year, but wasn't able to find their editorial on the occasion of the Amnesty report rici cites above.

At one point in the piece, the Globe's editorialists try to contrast China's lawless arms trade with other nations' law-abiding, responsible practices, thus directly contradicting the organization they cite as an authority to criticize China:

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Yet, contrary to their responsibilities and legal obligations, the G8 countries - Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Russian Federation, the UK and the USA - are still supplying weapons and munitions to irresponsible end users.
According to the Amnesty report on the G8, Canadian military equipment has found its way to Colombia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and elsewhere.

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posted 13 June 2006 12:52 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
rici, thanks for a brilliant post. I'm printing it out. I don't do that often.
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posted 13 June 2006 01:44 PM      Profile for Merowe     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Eh, the Chinese. Like any newbie imperialist they start on the street corner hustling small arms, moving by degrees into the harder stuff, how could they be properly regarded as a rising power if they didn't? And why should they be any different than the other world powers?

They're following a wellworn path. I'd like to say I expected different but what have we seen from them to suggest that?

Pity though. Same old same old.


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posted 13 June 2006 02:14 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember reading somewhere that after the 1991 Gulf conflict, western country sales to the Middle East increased by around five hundred percent. The death industry armed Saddam and surrounding enemies to the eye teeth, Kuwait included. Kuwait is another imperialist curtain country where almost ten percent of the people are allowed to vote for prince al Sabah and vote for him they must.
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posted 15 June 2006 12:54 PM      Profile for sgm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Further to the general topic of arms exports, Oxfam is turning the spolight on Canada's exports of ammunition while calling on Canadian and other governments to tighten controls on small arms traffic:
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Canada is the fourth-largest exporter of small arms ammunition, according to a report on the bullet trade published Thursday by aid agency Oxfam.

Oxfam's report, Ammunition: the fuel of conflict, concluded that there are 10 to 14 billion bullets made globally each year. That's enough, they said, to shoot every person on the planet twice.

The organization is urging countries to adopt stricter controls on ammunition and for the UN to push for aggressive measures when it holds a conference on the illicit trade of small arms later this month in New York.

"The UN conference must set global standards to prevent weapons from being transferred to places where they might fuel conflict, hinder development or be used in human rights abuses," said Robert Fox, executive director of Oxfam Canada.


More here.

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posted 15 June 2006 03:15 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And Canada was the sixth largest global arms exporter in 2004. Branch plants in Canada supply everything from gear boxes to sophisticated guidance electronics for Patriot missiles to the U.S. Pentagon and "the complex." These exports are said not to be accounted for in Canada's annual GDP estimation. Why not ?.

Canada's military-corporate complex

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On the industry side, the Canadian Association of Defence and Security Industries reports that in 2000 (the latest figures available) there were more than 1,500 firms with significant defence interests (i.e. more than $100,000 in defence revenues) comprising an industry worth roughly $7 billion per year.

A third of the industry's revenues are derived from arms exports, half of that to the United States. As a result, both the Washington-based Congressional Research Service and the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute ranked Canada as the sixth largest global arms exporter in 2004.

These companies build everything from wheeled tanks to tactical helicopters.

But most Canadian defence companies are branch plants or subcontractors, building components for U.S. systems, such as gearboxes for the Apache helicopter.

According to Project Ploughshares, the industry is dominated by a handful of companies who typically win the lion's share of Canadian military contracts:

CAE Inc., General Dynamics Canada and General Dynamics Land Systems Canada, SNC-Lavalin Group, Bell Helicopter Textron, and Bombardier. Half of the top 10 companies are foreign owned or controlled, and only six of the top 10 companies actually rely on military contracts for more than 20 per cent of their revenue.

Finally, one cannot exclude the Department of National Defence itself from the military lobby. It spends millions of dollars a year on public relations, including public opinion polling, cultivating favourable coverage from journalists, in addition to funding conservative think tanks and university research institutes.



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