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Stockholm
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posted 19 February 2008 07:28 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Apparently several people are in the running, but the establishment is closing ranks behind this person: (sounds good to me)

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Lorene Mahoney has officially declared her intention to seek the Federal NDP nomination for the riding of Elmwood – Transcona. Lorene previously ran in the 2004 federal election as a candidate in Kildonan - St. Paul. She received a Bachelor of Nursing Degree from the University of Manitoba. Lorene has 31 years of nursing experience and is currently employed as a Long Term Care Consultant with Manitoba Health and a casual nurse at St. Boniface General Hospital. Lorene is Vice Chair of the Highway Transportation Board and a member of the Motor Transport Board. She has been a community activist for many years, participating in numerous community groups and organizations. Lorene is currently an Executive member of the New Democratic Party of Manitoba and a member of the Congress of Black Women of Canada, Manitoba Chapter. Born in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Lorene was raised in Transcona and was valedictorian of her graduating class from Murdoch MacKay Collegiate.

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sounds good, but why so damned old? oddly, our caucus (especially the women) has a median age of something like 58. where are all the 40 year olds? can a young progressive be taken seriously, or does one have to be born before world war two to win a seat as a leftist in this country??
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posted 19 February 2008 10:55 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
She doesn't look that old in her picture - I'd guess early 50s.
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quote:
Originally posted by flight from kamakura:
sounds good, but why so damned old?

Yeah, we need more young people running the country. Like Mario Dumont. Yeah.


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posted 19 February 2008 11:12 AM      Profile for Boze     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Don't be an ass, Unionist.
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posted 19 February 2008 11:25 AM      Profile for RosaL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by flight from kamakura:
sounds good, but why so damned old?

I think, for many people, it can take a long time to get to the point where they can run for office. There can be lots of reasons for that: all sorts of obstacles. (I don't see any need to list them. We all know what they are.) It seems to me too bad that having fought through to a certain point in her life where she is ready and able to do this, she should be told, "But you're so old".

[ 19 February 2008: Message edited by: RosaL ]


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well, nothing against her personally, it just seems like we've got a really old caucus!

and it's a serious questions: why do progressives have to be old to be taken seriously? i mean, you can be elected as a conservative at 28, but a 28 year old progressive would be laughed off the stage.

and i'm aware that there are 2 exceptions, i'm just making a point in general

[ 19 February 2008: Message edited by: flight from kamakura ]


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posted 19 February 2008 12:01 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
People complain that we need more women, more visible minorities and more "younger" people in the NDP caucus. Well with Lorene Mahoney we will get two out of three.
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quote:
Originally posted by flight from kamakura:
why do progressives have to be old to be taken seriously? i mean, you can be elected as a conservative at 28, but a 28 year old progressive would be laughed off the stage.

[ 19 February 2008: Message edited by: flight from kamakura ]


They shouldn't have to be old. I think it's often a matter of people working their way up through the political system. It takes time! (My point is that it's not a prejudice against the young. But I think this is a bad system for many reasons, one of which is that it works against young people, newcomers, and people who lack connections.)

But they shouldn't have to be young either.


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posted 19 February 2008 12:06 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by flight from kamakura:
well, nothing against her personally, it just seems like we've got a really old caucus!
She looks to be about 50-55.

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and it's a serious questions: why do progressives have to be old to be taken seriously?
They don't. However, the left has ideology driven radicals that perhaps need to have some life experience to temper actions.

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i mean, you can be elected as a conservative at 28, but a 28 year old progressive would be laughed off the stage.
That would depend no?

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and i'm aware that there are 2 exceptions, i'm just making a point in general

Ageism, is what you are partaking in, and I would bet out stats on age representation within the NDP are about the same as other parties.


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posted 19 February 2008 12:19 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Boze:
Don't be an ass, Unionist.

Don't be a Bozo, Bozo.


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posted 19 February 2008 12:28 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Our second youngest Premier in BC was Glen Clark. Sometimes the arrogance of youth is not the best mix with power.
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posted 19 February 2008 12:34 PM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Nathan Cullen is one of the most respected members of the NDP caucus and he's under 35.

I think Peter Julian was under 40 when he was first elected as well.


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Adam T
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posted 19 February 2008 12:40 PM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think we should either discriminate against older people running for office or be prejudicial against younger people, but try and judge everyone on their own merits.
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posted 19 February 2008 12:44 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Adam T:
I don't think we should either discriminate against older people running for office or be prejudicial against younger people, but try and judge everyone on their own merits.
Agreed!! and the two people you mention above are worth supporting.

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posted 19 February 2008 12:46 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If Niki Ashton gets elected in Churchill - the NDP will have an MP in her mid 20s.
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posted 19 February 2008 12:50 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The Church tradition continues in that riding, to go by Stockholm's establishment candidate. The nominee Lorene Mahoney is an active member of the United Church. Blaikie is a United Church Minister, and his predecessor, Dean Whiteway, taught Bible College and continues to teach at Christian schools in New York and Pennsylvania.
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posted 19 February 2008 12:50 PM      Profile for flight from kamakura     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
is ashton running again? she'll have a much better chance without bev desjarlais in the mix.
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posted 19 February 2008 12:52 PM      Profile for Threads     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Correct. Niki Ashton has been nominated again.
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posted 19 February 2008 02:09 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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A member of the Doer government said he may take a shot at running in NDP MP Bill Blaikie's soon-to-be-vacant seat in Elmwood-Transcona.

MLA Jim Maloway, a left-leaning maverick in the centrist provincial NDP, said there's a significant movement to draft him to run. He said there's about a 50-50 chance he'll make the leap into federal politics.



Source. I find this description of Maloway a bit puzzling; I'd certainly never thought of him as particularly left-leaning. I'm not surprised that he's interested in the job, though.

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posted 19 February 2008 02:14 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The guy has been in the leg. for 21 years without ever being appointed to any post in the Manitoba government.

Sounds like an NDP version of Tony Ruprecht!!


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posted 19 February 2008 02:25 PM      Profile for asterix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
She sounds great, but I'm curious who else is in the running. Haven't been able to find any information on it so far.
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam T:
Nathan Cullen is one of the most respected members of the NDP caucus and he's under 35.

I think Peter Julian was under 40 when he was first elected as well.


The breakdown is as follows:

1 in their 30's

4 in their 40's

17 in their 50's; with 10 of those being 55 and under, several of whom started in their 40's as MP's, like; Pat M, Yvon G. and Charlie A. While many of those in their later 50's also started as MP's in their 40's like Bill B., Alexa M., and Judy WL.

8 in their 60's

mean age 54.5%


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quote:
Originally posted by remind:

The breakdown is as follows:

1 in their 30's

4 in their 40's

17 in their 50's; with 10 of those being 55 and under, several of whom started in their 40's as MP's, like; Pat M, Yvon G. and Charlie A. While many of those in their later 50's also started as MP's in their 40's like Bill B., Alexa M., and Judy WL.

8 in their 60's

mean age 54.5%


Bill B.? I thought Bill Blaikie was 29 when he first won the seat of WINNIPEG-BIRDS HILL in 1979!


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quote:
Originally posted by Stockholm:
The guy has been in the leg. for 21 years without ever being appointed to any post in the Manitoba government.

Sounds like an NDP version of Tony Ruprecht!!


Correct.


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Speaking of the need for more 'youth' in the federal caucus, one of the other leading candidates for the Elmwood-Transcona nomination is Kevin Rebeck, President of CUPE Manitoba, who is quite youthful (I believe in his 30s). Here's the bio from his website:

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As President of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, which represents over 24,000 public service workers in Manitoba, Kevin has been an advocate for strong communities, safe workplaces and fairness.

He's also served in a number of other elected positions within the Labour movement over the past 15 years including Vice President for the Manitoba Federation of Labour, General Vice President for CUPE National and 2nd Vice President for the Winnipeg Labour Council. Kevin has been active in our community through a variety of organizations such as the United Way, Local Investment Towards Employment, the Premier's Economic Advisory Council - Healthcare Task Force, the Manitoba Community Services Council, The Optimists, and Rossbrook House.


Link.


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Originally posted by David Young:
Bill B.? I thought Bill Blaikie was 29 when he first won the seat of WINNIPEG-BIRDS HILL in 1979!
You are correct he has been, and he was 29!

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For a time, the youngest MP in Canadian history to that point was Lorne Nystrom. Ironically, Lorne did not actually vote in the election (he was enumerated elsewhere and wasn't able to get there to vote during the writ) and thus was an MP for four years before ever voting in a federal election.

One of the marks against Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan was that he would not appoint young MLAs to Cabinet. RJR, who was Deputy Premier and Attorney General at 29 appointed precisely two ministers under the age of 40 - both of whom were 39-1/2 at the time of appointment.

Tommy Douglas (39 years 8 months when he became premier) would likely not have been able to get into a Roy Romanow cabinet. Roy Romanow (DP&AG at 29) certainly wouldn't have.

The bizarre agism of the Saskatchewan NDP continued unabated. At one point, despite several eminently qualified applicants of varying ages, the party chose to appoint 60 something Ed Tchorzewski as acting provincial secretary.

Frankly, an entire generation of NDP activists were told to rot by a party that wasn't interested in renewal. Columnist Murray Mandryck refers to them as the a-Banda-ned generation, referring to Scott Banda, former leadership contender who worked for several years to succeed RJR in Saskatoon Riversdale only to be shunted aside to make way for Lorne Calvert.


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Apropos of nothing, in the last election we apparently had the youngest candidate ever: a woman in Laurentides--Labelle (name escapes me at the moment) who was actually 17 when the writ was dropped and was able to run because she turned 18 during the election.

I'm also a member of that very select group of people who voted for myself the first time I was eligible to vote in a federal election


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Originally posted by montrealais:
I'm also a member of that very select group of people who voted for myself the first time I was eligible to vote in a federal election


But you gotta admit, being an MP for four years before you ever vote is a peculiar claim to fame.


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I'm guessing that many of the younger women are dealing with family issues that they see as preventing them from investing the time and attention in the political realm.
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Anybody know if Marianne Cerilli still has a valid NDP membership, or whether or not she'd be interested in running for the nomination?
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Yes, Marianne remains an active New Democrat -- I saw her at the Manitoba NDP convention earlier this month.

I haven't heard any rumours of her running for the nomination in Blaikie's seat, though some folks I know have suggested she run for city council, possibly in Harvey Smith's seat, once/if he retires (which he should do at the next election).


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Originally posted by Rich L:
I haven't heard any rumours of her running for the nomination in Blaikie's seat, though some folks I know have suggested she run for city council, possibly in Harvey Smith's seat, once/if he retires (which he should do at the next election).

Not to drift, but I'd prefer her to take on Russ Wyatt in Transcona, because that way it would knock off a right-winger and add a progressive member of council. Even without Harvey Smith, I can't see Daniel Mac electing a non-progressive councillor.


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...cough coughcoughAmaroSilvacough cough...
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Any news on this? When's the nomination scheduled for?
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In my experience, if anything younger people have some measure of prejudice in their favour when they seek and NDP nomination.

And 'going up through the ranks' or putting in your time as an activist in the NDP is not required to get a nomination- nor is someone else having that going to get them the nomination.

With the caveat that I hear ONDP riding associations tend to be more cliquish and old-guardish. But I just hear that, don't know it to be true.

At any rate- I think the main obstacle by far in getting more younger candidates is simply being able to attract them into wanting to go for it.

My gut feeling is that is actually getting better. But that may be just an impression from where I sit. And even if it is true, not getting better quickly enough. And the membership is still pretty heavy on the older [than average] side.


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Originally posted by KenS:
And the membership is still pretty heavy on the older [than average] side.

Weight discrimination?


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Vigilance against running dog imperialist lackey weighted averages is called for.

Diabolical and hysterical metabolism will clear the path to truth.


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