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rasmus
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posted 02 March 2004 11:52 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are there any well-developed feminist theories of the state to rival Marxist theories of the state?
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weakling willy
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posted 03 March 2004 10:51 AM      Profile for weakling willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A good place to start is Lisa Brush's _Gender and Governance_ book (Altamira Press, 2003). This is a good book because it reflects the trend to more cultural/post-structuralist understandings, but refuses to completely junk work in the modernist tradition, and indeed finds quite a bit of it necessary and useful for the feminist critical project.

There's also a book with a title like _Critical Theories of the State_ that will have a chapter on feminist state theory.

Now, whether these rival Marxist theories of the state -- well that's another whole can of worms. The feminist political economy tradition in Canada has tried to forge a middle way, with some success.

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posted 03 March 2004 11:22 PM      Profile for swirrlygrrl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I don't know exactly what you mean by "to rival Marxism," but RW Connell has some interesting work on the nature of the state (being coded masculine rather than essentially patriachial). Nancy Harstock's "Sex and Power: Towards a feminist historical matierialism" might be in your area. And of course there is Catherine MacKinnon's "Toward a Feminist Theory of the State" (written before she went too crazy, IMHO, but she's not an easy read).

Is this just a casual interest??

Edited to add:

A few other things that came to mind:
-Pauline Rankin and Jill Vickers' "Women's movements and State feminisms, published by Status of women Canada.
- Vicky Randall and Georgina Waylan, "Gender, Politics and the State"
- Judith Allen, 'Does feminism need a theory of the state?" in Playing the State (Sophie Watson editor)
- Gerda Lerner, "The Creation of Patriarchy"
- Spike Peterson, 'Gendered States" (very interesting)

Essentially, there are multiple feminist theories of the state, the two majors being those who see it as inherently patriarchial, and those who see it as coded masculine but malleable. Enjoy!

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beverly
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posted 04 March 2004 06:27 PM      Profile for beverly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have thought about your question, and would recommend all of the above. As mentioned, the "radical" (how I hate that term) feminist perspective is that Marxism doesn't go far enough and doesn't explain the inequlaities between women and men.

Add to the list above

"The Politics of Reproduction" Mary O'Brien

"Reproducing the World" Mary O'Brien


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spindoctor
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posted 04 March 2004 09:19 PM      Profile for spindoctor   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are there any good marxist theories of the state? seems to me that it's always had difficulty explaining why the state exists and why it acts the way it does.
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rasmus
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posted 04 March 2004 11:14 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ralph Miliband, The State in Capitalist Society & Marxism and Politics
CB MacPherson, The Life and Times of Liberal Democracy

among many others.


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swirrlygrrl
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posted 06 March 2004 12:28 AM      Profile for swirrlygrrl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
C'mon, spindoctor, you gotta know that for Marxist theories of the state, its all about three functions: accumulation, legitimation and coercion. Which make a lot of sense (legitimation covers a lot of territory), but of course doesn't deal with how the balance between the three is determined or changed.
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weakling willy
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posted 09 March 2004 01:23 PM      Profile for weakling willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Get out of the 1970s already! Bob jessop's State theory (1990) is already old, and is often opaque, but does reflect a fair bit of development, and provides some leverage on the questions posed.
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rasmus
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posted 11 March 2004 02:56 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
provides some leverage on the questions posed.

Can you be more specific?

Thanks to all who posted. Swirrlygirl, the questions are not merely casual, I am thinking about curriculum for political education.

Crudely, it seems to me you can divide radical theories of the state into pessimistic and optimistic. Of the two views swirrlygrrl refers to (would it be accurate to call them the "radical feminist" and "socialist feminist"?), one seems to be the analogue of anarchism, the other of socialism or social democracy.


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