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Doug
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posted 09 September 2008 07:51 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We discussed this before when illegal immigrants were arrested in a raid on the slaughterhouse. Now, finally, the managers are charged with child labour offences. I guess it's still okay to exploit adults.

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The owner and managers of the nation's largest kosher meatpacking plant were charged Tuesday with more than 9,000 misdemeanors alleging child labor law violations.
Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller tells a news conference Tuesday in Des Moines, Iowa, about child labor charges.

Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller tells a news conference Tuesday in Des Moines, Iowa, about child labor charges.

They're accused of hiring minors and, in some cases, having children younger than 16 handle dangerous equipment such as circular saws, meat grinders and power shears.

The allegations are the first criminal charges against operators of the Agriprocessors plant in Postville, where nearly 400 illegal immigrants working at the facility were arrested in May in one of the largest single-site immigration raids in U.S. history.


Slaughterhouse charged with using child labour


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N.Beltov
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posted 09 September 2008 09:01 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is the same employer that gave a whole new meaning to the term "chutzpah". After a unionization vote, the company went public and said they would not recognize the union because it had "discovered" that many of the employees were illegal immigrants.

One cartoonist compared this to the murderer who, after killing his parents, asked for the court's mercy because he was now an orphan.

The new meaning of chutzpah.


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aka Mycroft
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posted 09 September 2008 09:34 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are there any "ethical" kosher certification organizations that will ensure that the food produced not only follows dietary laws but also is produced by companies that treat their employees fairly, don't hire child labour etc? I believe fair practices are as much a part of Jewish (or almost any) religious principles of good conduct as are the technical rules about how to slaughter an animal. The whole idea of kasruth is humane treatment - workers shouldn't be excluded from that.

Is there any movement in the Jewish community to boycott Agriprocessors?


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lagatta
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posted 10 September 2008 03:11 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have seen articles about people opposing their unethical practices on religious grounds in the Forward: http://www.forward.com/

I'd also suggest checking Tikkun www.tikkun.org as they are very concerned about ethical issues, though there doesn't seem to be anything in the current issue.


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Star Spangled Canadian
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posted 16 September 2008 11:08 AM      Profile for Star Spangled Canadian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a new "hescher" (a hescher is a kosher certification) called "hescher Tzedek" ("tzedek" translating as justice or righteousness) taht is based on ethical labour practices and environmentally friendly processes, etc. It's quite new and I don't know how widely it's caught on yet.
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posted 16 September 2008 11:10 AM      Profile for Star Spangled Canadian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While I'm here, I should add that I actually know the grandaughter of the guy who runs this kosher meat factory and have met him once in brooklyn. He's a big pillar of the Lubavitch community and probably the biggest contriubtor to their different charities. This really is a major fall from grace and it's sad to see but you really think that someone as devout as he is would jsut no better than to pull shit like this.
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posted 16 September 2008 11:15 AM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Star Spangled Canadian:
While I'm here, I should add that I actually know the grandaughter of the guy who runs this kosher meat factory and have met him once in brooklyn. He's a big pillar of the Lubavitch community and probably the biggest contriubtor to their different charities. This really is a major fall from grace and it's sad to see but you really think that someone as devout as he is would jsut no better than to pull shit like this.

Organized religion is an industry.

I was raised with modern orthodox Jew, and I'm really embittered by the generalized hypocrisy I saw in so many places.

That individual is not "devout" by any positive connotation of the term. He was publicly practicing orthodox Judaism as business decision, that's all.


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posted 16 September 2008 11:26 AM      Profile for Prophit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants in general bear more scrutiny. Agriprocessors bears scrutiny not because it is run by a man that happens to be an orthodox Jew but because he was an unethical bastard!

The CEO of Maple Leaf meats (whatever religion he is) took the ethical route in dealing with his problems. Focus please on the issue and not the faith


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500_Apples
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posted 16 September 2008 11:41 AM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Prophit:
Slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants in general bear more scrutiny. Agriprocessors bears scrutiny not because it is run by a man that happens to be an orthodox Jew but because he was an unethical bastard!

The CEO of Maple Leaf meats (whatever religion he is) took the ethical route in dealing with his problems. Focus please on the issue and not the faith


I think this is equivalent to the attention given when christian uber-evangelists and family values politicians are caught with their pants down.


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lagatta
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posted 16 September 2008 12:33 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Indeed. Don't worry about antisemites posting here. There was a notorious one - holocaust denier and all - but he and his ilk always got the boot in record time.
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posted 16 September 2008 01:11 PM      Profile for Star Spangled Canadian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 500_Apples:

Organized religion is an industry.

I was raised with modern orthodox Jew, and I'm really embittered by the generalized hypocrisy I saw in so many places.

That individual is not "devout" by any positive connotation of the term. He was publicly practicing orthodox Judaism as business decision, that's all.



Obviously, nobody knows what's in another eprson's heart. He may be devout and made a terrible mistake and betrayed his own principles. He may not ahve been and it was all a ruse. It does seem like there are a lot of people who place far too much emphasis on the external aspects of religion without actually living out it's ideals. I mean, it's great that you have a beard and a hat and go to shul 3 times a day, but ultimately, what does that really mean if you mistreat and abuse workers when you think you can get away with it?


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