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Berlynn
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posted 27 November 2005 01:09 AM      Profile for Berlynn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Get a load of this. At the annual convention of the Sask NDP a motion calling for gender equity and First Nations representation on a very powerful committee failed. As a result, four white men and one visible minority woman now sit on the committee. How's that for progressive?

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Makwa
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posted 27 November 2005 01:10 PM      Profile for Makwa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Berlynn:
Get a load of this. At the annual convention of the Sask NDP a motion calling for gender equity and First Nations representation on a very powerful committee failed. As a result, four white men and one visible minority woman now sit on the committee. How's that for progressive?
B-\

Gee, it reminds me a little of writers for some progressive publications.

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Wilf Day
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posted 27 November 2005 01:17 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Berlynn:
At the annual convention of the Sask NDP a motion calling for gender equity and First Nations representation on a very powerful committee failed. As a result, four white men and one visible minority woman now sit on the committee.

Sounds inexcusable. Which "very powerful committee?"

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Nikita
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posted 27 November 2005 02:51 PM      Profile for Nikita     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Sounds inexcusable. Which "very powerful committee?"

The Legislative Advisory Committee. I was extremely disappointed with the way that election turned out. The elction for Members at Large to sit on the party executive went much better - there were three women (myself included!) and two men elected. The Executive will review the results of the Leg. Advisory committee and decide what to do about it - I'm not sure what that will entail, but I guess I will be a part of it.


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Wilf Day
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posted 27 November 2005 03:00 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Nikita:
The Executive will review the results of the Leg. Advisory committee

Does that committee serve as liaison between caucus and the executive, and monitor the government to ensure it is following party policy? If it's something like that, it's certainly vital that it be inclusive. I hope the Executive has power to add, or can give itself power to add.

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Nikita
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posted 27 November 2005 03:47 PM      Profile for Nikita     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yep, that's the Leg. Advisory.

It's mighty frustrating not to have gender parity. It's everywhere else, even in the NDP youth sections in the other provinces but not Saskatchewan.

[ 27 November 2005: Message edited by: Nikita ]


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Wilf Day
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posted 27 November 2005 05:50 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ontario NDP Constitution:
quote:
10.01 The Provincial Executive shall consist of:

(1) Provincial Officers.

(2) Eight women and eight men, no more than five of whom shall be Members of Parliament or Members of the Legislative Assembly at the time of their nomination to the Provincial Executive. Of the eight women and eight men, five women and five men shall be elected on a regional basis. The Provincial Council may determine the boundaries of the regions.

(3) One woman and one man, representing the ONDY, one of whom will serve as the Federal Council Youth Delegate from Ontario.

(4) Two women, representing the ONDP Women's Committee.

(5) One woman and one man, representing the Ethnic Committees.

(6) One woman and one man representing the ONDP Lesbian, Gay and Trans-identified Committee.

(7) One man and one woman representing the Disabilities Committee.

11.01 (1) The Provincial Council shall consist of: . . .

(d) One man and one woman from the executive of each provincial constituency association of up to three hundred members and an additional member for each further three hundred members or fraction thereof



Federal party constitution:
quote:
3. The Executive of the Party shall consist of the Officers, and:
(a) ten regional representatives. . . Each region shall be entitled to two representatives, at least one of whom shall be a woman. . .
(c) two representatives from Labour affiliates elected by the Labour Caucus at Convention and submitted to Convention for ratification. At least one of the two shall be a woman.

2. The Council shall consist of:

b) representatives from federal ridings . . .
(iii) representation from federal ridings in provinces or territories entitled to more than one Council delegate shall be gender balanced. Federal ridings in regions where each provincial or territorial allotment does not exceed one, shall ensure that the overall regional representation achieves gender parity.

(c) two Table Officers from each Provincial or Territorial Section - at least one of whom shall be a woman - to be named by the Section's Executive or Council;

(d) sixteen representatives from Labour affiliates - providing that at least nine of the 18 Labour representatives on Executive and Council are women - to be elected by the Labour Caucus at Convention and ratified by Convention;

(f) eleven NDYC members, selected in terms and conditions defined by the NDYC. Including the NDYC Chair on Executive, at least six of the 12 NDYC representatives shall be women;

(g) one representative each from the Participation of Visible Minorities Committee, the Aboriginal Committee, the Lesbian-Gay-Bisexual-Transgendered Committee, the Persons Living with Disabilities Committee to be elected by the respective Caucus at Convention and ratified by Convention. Each shall be of the gender other than that of the Chair of the Committee;

(h) two representatives from the Federal Caucus, at least one of whom shall be a woman;

(i) The Council may, with the approval of two-thirds of its members present and voting, elect not more than three additional persons to be members of the Council, at least two of whom shall be women. It shall be understood that these positions shall be reserved for chairs of Committees of Council.


This is all worth noting, because one of the advantages of the MMP system advocated by the federal and Ontario NDP is that there would be regional lists for candidates for the Regional MPs, which I assume would be gender balanced. Some women have questioned whether the NDP would really balance the lists. I have no doubt. The better question is whether the NDP would "zipper" the lists, that is, alternate men and women, not put the women at the end of the list. I think it would, at least in Ontario. Am I too hopeful?

Consider the Saskatchewan federal Conservatives, with their 13 incumbent MPs -- 11 men and 2 women. If they had to run for 8 local seats and 6 regional or provincial seats, that's a lot of male incumbents looking for spots near the top of the list. Keep in mind that, almost everywhere under the MMP system, local candidates can also seek nomination to the regional list. List MPs can (and do) seek local nominations at the next election, so the "list MPs" and the "local MPs" both have local offices and behave identically, competing with each other as they get ready to run against each other next election. At the last German election, 93% of the "list MPs" had also run locally. "Good for the voters, bad for the politicians."


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Nikita
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posted 27 November 2005 08:01 PM      Profile for Nikita     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for that info Wilf, I will print it off and bring it with me to my meetings.


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jrootham
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posted 28 November 2005 12:22 AM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The better question is whether the NDP would "zipper" the lists, that is, alternate men and women, not put the women at the end of the list. I think it would, at least in Ontario. Am I too hopeful?

If they didn't there would be the most unholy row you've seen in your life.

Unless, of course, the women were at the front of the list.

[ 28 November 2005: Message edited by: jrootham ]


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jariax
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posted 02 December 2005 07:44 PM      Profile for jariax        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I find this all to be very transphobic.

With all this talk about woman or man, they have completely left out and isolated transgendered individuals.


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