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lagatta
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posted 06 February 2006 05:09 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beyond the utter vulgarity of Silvio Berlusconi's pledge to abstain from sex until the elections, his support for neo-fascism is far more worrying...

Berlusconi not fit to govern.


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posted 06 February 2006 10:56 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fortunately all the polls in Italy indicate that Berlusconi will lose.
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posted 06 February 2006 11:06 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Superb column. Very funny in places. Mrs Berlusconi's well-earned rest ...

We must keep track of that summary of the man's depredations.

I wonder whether the Guardian is thinking of reprising for the Italians its campaign to sway Ohio voters? That would be fun. I wrote to an Ohio voter; sadly, she never replied. You don't think it was all my fault, do you?


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posted 06 February 2006 11:19 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, perhaps this would be an excuse to go to Italy.

But I don't really see myself speaking to a Berlusconi voter in Italy. Left and Right are really different cultures, networks, over there. they even support different football clubs! In Rome, Roma supporters are traditionally the Left (they have red kit); Lazio's the right - often the far-right: neo-fascists who give the Roman salute, racists who throw bananas at Black players and soap at Jewish ones. Perhaps some wavering voters will decide the outcome, as in many places.

The town where I lived was traditionally Communist, but in Italian terms that means an NDP government with a few more red flags and old partisan hymns...


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posted 06 February 2006 01:09 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is another story on Italian politics from the rabble main site, posted here in the ongoing campaign against thread proliferation. The Italian Green party is opposed to many things: GMOs, the silly bridge to Sicily, nuclear, etc, but also to a high-speed rail link (TGV) between Lyon and Turin, through the Alps. A much more difficult question for environmentalists, that. It certainly will damage fragile Alpine valleys, but at the same time it could cut down on the terrible air pollution now found in the area due to the growing fleet of trucks (TIR) travelling the same route, especially since European integration. It is far worse than the situation in southwestern Ontario...
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posted 08 February 2006 08:57 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It never ends. Now the rightwing government in Italy is preparing to enact legislation to criminalise smoking a joint on the same level as use of hard drugs. Berlusconi clamps down on toking up.

Beyond the idiocy of this new legislation, it overlooks the dire hard drug problem in many parts of Italy, even among "nice" middle-class families. Grrrrrrr.


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lagatta
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posted 13 February 2006 04:35 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Berlusconi is a modest chap at heart; now he's comparing himself to Jesus Christ.
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posted 13 February 2006 05:01 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They are the same no matter what country, right lagatta?.

Viva Roma!


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Ross J. Peterson
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posted 13 February 2006 05:42 AM      Profile for Ross J. Peterson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Berlusconi conjures up images of capitalist horror, the first being, of course fascism. But why do I think of the owners of my local newspaper in the same nightmare? Izzy Asper at Can Global West Comm.

Remember the mind-melds on Star Trek? Imagine GW Bush - Berlusconi. Or daisy-chain mind melds. Sharon-Bush, Sr.- Conrad Black - Governor Schwarzenegger. All four mindmelded into the more lithe body of a Keanu Reaves. And then he becomes prez of the U.S.

Tell me fascists come in all shapes and sizes. They certainly don't all have the same educational background - like the Skulls & Cross-Bones sh*t at Yale. But in Italy one wonders if the really popular fascists, the ones most likely to suceed in politics, are better at it when they are old, fat, large or anything but thin and hungry young men. Berlusconi may be scary but I tend to worry most about the thin old men, the ones educated at Opus Dei institutions who know how to pull strings without the outward trappings of persona and megabucks lifestyle at the wheel of a Ferrari.


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posted 13 February 2006 05:46 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Stop it Ross, you're scaring me.
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posted 17 February 2006 10:51 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Our old fiend Berlusconi has hooked up with yet more fascists!
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posted 18 February 2006 05:39 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A collection of sayings from Roberto Calderoli, the Northern League minister in the Berlusconi governing coalition who had to resign after his Mohammen cartoon t-shirt sparked off violent protests in Libya (a former Italian colony). From Ali Baba to chemical castration!

Do you notice how OLD this cretin looks - he is not yet 50.


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posted 18 February 2006 05:49 PM      Profile for rici     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
A collection of sayings from Roberto Calderoli

He got one thing right:

quote:
"What's at stake is Western civilisation," he was quoted by the daily La Repubblica as saying.

I quite agree. Every time he opens his mouth, he diminishes it.


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posted 27 February 2006 01:49 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the interests of avoiding thread prolif, thought I'd add this Italian story here, as there are a lot of fascists under discussionFascist Lazio football star meets Holocaust survivors

Roma, the opposing Roman side, has already met with survivors, but traditionally Roma fans are on the left, and Lazio fans on the right (including the far-right, racist and violent Ultra supporters, who are fond of racist jokes about monkeys, gas ovens and the like.

I liked the little touch about the footballers with their hair dyed blond. Ersatz Aryans?


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