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lagatta
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posted 21 December 2005 03:23 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Alas, despite the great progress the new civil partnership law marks in many ways for gay and lesbian Britons, it is still not defined as marriage. Elton John, David Furnish tie the knot.

But we can still wish them (and many other couples) a happy day and a good life together... and hope David convinces Elton to come over here for a REAL wedding.


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Jay Williams
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posted 21 December 2005 03:28 PM      Profile for Jay Williams        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not to put a damper on this, but the success rate of celebrity marriages is way less than stellar. Assuming there's a prenup, can it be enforced should they divorce? Does the combined estate get split 50/50? Elton's the one with the money problems, a la Michael Jackson, so maybe Furnish should be the one to worry, should things not work out.
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Bacchus
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posted 21 December 2005 03:31 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Elton has in fact signed over most of his fortune to David, since previously without the civil union, he would have been subjected to crushing death taxes. So I gather there is no pre-nup.
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Jay Williams
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posted 21 December 2005 03:34 PM      Profile for Jay Williams        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bacchus:
Elton has in fact signed over most of his fortune to David, since previously without the civil union, he would have been subjected to crushing death taxes. So I gather there is no pre-nup.

Death Tax. Sounds like something from the FreeDominion website. I think it's properly called an estate tax.


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Bacchus
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posted 21 December 2005 03:41 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That may be but its referred to most often as the death taxes (or death duties) everywhere in the U.K.
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Reality. Bites.
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posted 21 December 2005 03:55 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Jay Williams:
Not to put a damper on this, but the success rate of celebrity marriages is way less than stellar.

Sir Elton and Furnish have been together for 12 years already.

Since for the first few years following legalization most gay and lesbian couples who marry or form civil unions are long-term couples, it will likely be at least a decade or so before the divorce rate approaches that of opposite-sex unions or marriages.


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Hephaestion
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posted 23 December 2005 12:42 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But.... does that make it SIR Elton and LADY David???

quote:
For class conscious Britain the union of Sir Elton John and David Furnish has presented a dilemma. How does one properly refer to Furnish.

Under the rigid formality of princes, dukes and earls, the spouse of a knight is a lady, putting the title before the 'husband's' surname. But in the new world of civil partnerships is Furnish now Lady John?

The question was put to the authority on such matters, Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage. Considered the bible on titles and etiquette a Debrett's official had to consult with his specialists.

The decision came back no Lady for Furnish. 

"Even though they are married, people should still address him as Mr David Furnish," the official said. The spouse of a Lord also would be just Mister Debrett's has ruled. As for a Royal, "that would be up to the monarch to decide - the person would likely be made a baronette or given some other minor title." 

The whole issue will be addressed in the next edition of Peerage and Baronetage the spokesperson said.


... wonder what that apparently gratuitous reference to "a royal" was all about??? Is there something that Wills or Harry hasn't been letting on?

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Paul Gross
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posted 23 December 2005 01:24 AM      Profile for Paul Gross   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to this citizen story the options include:

quote:

Peerage expert suggests 'Laddy David'

As the spouse of a knight, Mr. Furnish may be entitled to a title of his own. "Laddy" was the suggestion of Charles Mosley, editor-in-chief of Debrett's Peerage, one of the two major directories of British peerage and gentry. "It's a great problem no wording exists to describe male consorts," he told the Sun-Herald. "I have proposed that 'Laddy' might be an appropriate title, being sufficiently like 'Lady' whilst still being pronounced differently."
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"A compromise is likely to be made so that gays marrying peers or knights will be allowed to style themselves 'The Honourable,' while keeping their own surnames."

In this scenario, Mr. Furnish could style himself "The Honourable David Furnish."


I, for one, would rather be "Honourable" than "Laddy" (do these peerage guys get to make up new words?). "Laddy David" looks too much like "Larry David" -- not that there's anything wrong with that

Elton could bring new meaning to the old Cole Porter song:

"So I want to warn you, laddie,
Though I know you're perfectly swell
That my heard belongs to daddy,
'Cuz my Daddy, he treats me so well"

I guess Elton would switch 'Laddie' and 'Daddy' when he sings it.

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Yst
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posted 23 December 2005 01:35 AM      Profile for Yst     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:

Sir Elton and Furnish have been together for 12 years already.


Nothing kils a celebrity marriage more readily than marriage, though.

Take Helen Hunt and Hank Azaria for example. They were a couple for years, got married in 1999, then got divorced mere months later. But then, I suppose we've addressed this problem in the "why straights shouldn't be allowed to marry" thread.


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posted 23 December 2005 07:49 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Yst:

Nothing kils a celebrity marriage more readily than marriage, though.


Big difference between marrying after some time when you had the option all along, and doing it after being denied the option.


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posted 23 December 2005 07:25 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In other Scarborough Collegiate (or whatever the name of Furnish's high school was) alumni news, Mike Myers and his wife of 12 years, Robin Ruzan, are calling it quits.

Ruzan's mother (unless he was married before) was the inspiration for his SNL character, Linda Richman.


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swallow
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posted 23 December 2005 11:43 PM      Profile for swallow     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's hardly an unprecedented title decision though. What do they call the husband of a Dame (female Knight)? David Furnish can have that title, if there is one.
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Hephaestion
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posted 23 December 2005 11:49 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by swallow:

What do they call the husband of a Dame...



Isn't that a Damn?

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Fidel
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posted 24 December 2005 01:48 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good for them. Aint love grand ?. One of my all time faves, and so you too should have it playing background in your mind 24/7 ...

"Palisades Park"

Last night I took a walk in the dark
To a place called Palisades Park
To have some fun, to see what I could see
That's where the girls are

I took a ride on the shoopty shoop
The girl I sat with almost, almost puked
And when it stopped, she was holding hands with meeeeee


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Michelle
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posted 24 December 2005 08:11 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My heart was riding up...a-like a rocket ship,
Down...a-like a roller coaster,
Fast...a-like a shoopty-shoop,
And round...a-like a merry-go-round...

I love that song, Fidel.


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