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Kevin_Laddle
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posted 27 September 2006 09:53 PM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Christians never riot, right everybody? Only folk who riot are dem dang mooslims...

quote:
CHRISTIANS DON’T RIOT
by Robert McClelland
Via Big Fat Hairy Living are some of those imaginary rioting Christians.

PALU, Indonesia — Christian mobs torched cars, blockaded roads and looted Muslim-owned shops in violence touched off by Friday’s executions of three Roman Catholics convicted of instigating attacks on Muslims.

Some 200 inmates escaped after mobs assaulted a jail in the town of Atambua, sending guards fleeing to the nearby jungle. By midday only 20 had been recaptured, deputy national police chief Lt. Gen. Adang Dorodjatun said, calling on the others to turn themselves in.

And on the island of Flores, the executed men’s birthplace, machete-wielding mobs ran through the streets Friday, sending women and children running in panic, police and witnesses said.

It’s funny how this week old story wasn’t big news in the blogosphere. I guess since they weren’t Muslim it didn’t matter to the people who obsess over this sort of thing. Anyway, remember it for the next time some blowhard theocon tells you that Christians don’t riot.


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remind
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posted 27 September 2006 11:34 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Kevin, it's a good up to date info bit on rioting by Christians. However, "Christians" have always rioted. One needs only look at Ireland, for another. Then of course the big historical riot against women, the witch hunts and let's not forget the pogroms in Europe. Or the Reformation. Or even the Holy Wars.

WE also got riots by "Christians" when they are standing on the streets for miles, in a line, and assault us with signs and nasty pics while we are driving. Or when they are blocking/destroying/bombing abortion clinics.

They just like to play Holier Than Thou, as always, with little room to do so as, they are standing in glass houses. I often think how apt the Crystal Cathedral is in California, and they don't even realize the symbology the putz's.


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Kevin_Laddle
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posted 28 September 2006 05:10 AM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
Thanks Kevin, it's a good up to date info bit on rioting by Christians. However, "Christians" have always rioted. One needs only look at Ireland, for another. Then of course the big historical riot against women, the witch hunts and let's not forget the pogroms in Europe. Or the Reformation. Or even the Holy Wars.


This just goes to show what a bunch of damn hypocrits and racists the far-right in Canada and the States are. Christians are committing more brutality and genocide around the world than any other religious group; just look at the slaughter going on in Iraq or Afganistan. Yet the neo-cons continue to propogate the lie that Muslims are some type of barbaric savages who are attacking us. I don't see any Muslim country with hundreds of thousands of ground troops occupying and murdering in Christian nations. But I DO see jundreds of thousands of USian troops occupying and murdering hundreds of thousands of Muslims throughout the middle east, sent there on the whim of their Jesus loving leader, Bush.


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remind
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posted 28 September 2006 07:28 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, Kevin, you're absolutely correct. However, is that not part of the Straussian big lie philosophy too?


Do exactly the opposite of what you say your doing, and be the exact opposite as well.


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head
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posted 28 September 2006 10:17 AM      Profile for head        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This post is as much of a sweeping generalization as the black and white statements spewed by the right....
Yes, Christians do riot but it's not always on the quest of a progrom; they have rioted when they won the Stanley Cup, and they have rioted for civil rights with other Christians like Martin Luther King.
And when you say Christians, who exactly do you mean? Surely you are not lumping together all the different sects of Christianity, the Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox, the many varieties of Protestants and the many other sects that believe in the same God but with their own particular differences and ideas of practicing faith. When you mention the Inquisitions are you suggesting that it is a practice that was espoused by all Christians, like those in Eithiopia or the Greek Orthodox in Syria?
Perhaps a more accurate target could be found in instutional Christianity, the empires of the Vatican and the organizations that pump dollars into the coffers of the Republican party, but to implicate all Christians through history as privy to all the evils conducted in the name of religion and for the benefit of a few powerful institutions and individuals, is ludicrous.

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timmah
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posted 28 September 2006 12:04 PM      Profile for timmah     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
They just like to play Holier Than Thou, as always, with little room to do so as, they are standing in glass houses. I often think how apt the Crystal Cathedral is in California, and they don't even realize the symbology the putz's.

My, Grandma, what a wide brush you have...


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remind
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posted 28 September 2006 12:05 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by head:
...as much of a sweeping generalization as the black and white statements spewed by the right....

Na, the book stating that Christians never riot is crazy, and Christians of all sects are not lily "white".

What is really crazy is sweeping statements about Muslims being the only ones who are violent


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Kevin_Laddle
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posted 28 September 2006 12:56 PM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by head:
This post is as much of a sweeping generalization as the black and white statements spewed by the right....


You're missing my point... I'm not pointing this out to suggest all Christians are rioting barbarians just because a small number did. It would be idiotic and foolish to conclude from the actions of a small minority that all Christians can be painted with the same brush. I'm fully aware of this, and the reason I am pointing this out is to illustrate the shear hypocrisy of conservatives who are so quick to condemn all muslims when a small, small minority of muslims riot, yet the very same conservative bloggers who were up in arms when a small portion of the world's muslims were rioting, are now strangely silent when a small portion of the world's christians are rioting.

It's nothing more than shameless, naked bigotry from the usual suspects, and im getting awfully fucking tired of it.

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Noise
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posted 28 September 2006 01:42 PM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
And when you say Christians, who exactly do you mean? Surely you are not lumping together all the different sects of Christianity, the Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox, the many varieties of Protestants and the many other sects that believe in the same God but with their own particular differences and ideas of practicing faith.

It's amusing to see this type of statement come out in defence of Christianity, when it's completely lacking when theres a demonstration from 'the muslim world'. It's perfectly OK to lump Muslims as one, but to even try such a thing to Christians and lookie the jump to defend ^^

Well presented point Kevin.

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Adding an good example... Popes comments on islam discussed in this thread were met by a group of Muslims burning images of the pope in response. Was there any effort to point out what Head's post does for Christianity in this thread?

If anything, the repetative playing of the burning the pope clip over has simply reenforced American distrust (and hatred) for Muslims, with several going on record saying 'dem dang mooslims go too far!!!'... Without any mention that this is a minority group.

A similar uprising, with the roles reversed, goes completely under the radar. It's hypocrisy at it's finest ^^

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remind
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posted 28 September 2006 05:56 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin_Laddle:
to illustrate the shear hypocrisy of conservatives who are so quick to condemn all muslims when a small, small minority of muslims riot...It's nothing more than shameless, naked bigotry from the usual suspects, and im getting awfully fucking tired of it.


Brava!


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Madwow
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posted 28 September 2006 06:20 PM      Profile for Madwow        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This just goes to show what a bunch of damn hypocrits and racists the far-right in Canada and the States are. Christians are committing more brutality and genocide around the world than any other religious group; just look at the slaughter going on in Iraq or Afganistan. Yet the neo-cons continue to propogate the lie that Muslims are some type of barbaric savages who are attacking us. I don't see any Muslim country with hundreds of thousands of ground troops occupying and murdering in Christian nations. But I DO see jundreds of thousands of USian troops occupying and murdering hundreds of thousands of Muslims throughout the middle east, sent there on the whim of their Jesus loving leader, Bush.

Apparantely you forgot to mention in your rant that those who are rioting in Indonesia are of the faith that has to endure countless acts of violence and murder, by others under their banner of religion. I apologize for not seeing the obvious, however, maybe these Christians are sick of being slaughtered by their own countrymen?


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head
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posted 28 September 2006 11:18 PM      Profile for head        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, don't blame me. In my opinion, it's got nothing to do with any religion. Power is ugly and any nation or group that wields it, whatever their faith, will abuse it and cause harm. I believe this to be true throughout history, whether it has been the Greeks, Romans, Assyrians or anyone else. At the time of their ascendancy thay have been brutal and inhumane. Saying Christians kill more people than Muslims do is a ridiculously irrelevant argument that appears to have been spoonfed to us for mass consumption either to argue about it, or believe it and be the desired followers while the multinanionals line their pockets with more and more.
Having said that, I do believe Christianity to be a religion of peace, despite what the actions of many of its representatives may have been responsible for. So amid the recent virulent attacks on this faith I thought it would be nice to remember that there have been other figures who have followed a doctrine of peace. And before you start throwing the Crusades at me and any such thing, please keep in mind that I am referring to the doctrines of a faith as stated in its Testament and not the interpretations of past Popes and Euroean princes in search of glory, grails and booty. (All very anti-Christian pursuits)


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