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audra trower williams
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posted 16 April 2001 03:33 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's your job? Do you love it or hate it? Do you see it as a way to pay the rent, or a good step towards whatever your career goals are?
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penelope
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posted 16 April 2001 03:50 PM      Profile for penelope   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I try to see everything I do-- even if it's getting up at 5 am to say "thanks for calling fit-for-life! penelope speaking!" as contributing toward my career goals, either by teaching me Important Life Skills (No, Mr. Brown, you may not have two more towels), or by paying the rent so I have space in which I can rock out.

Right now I get to run a magazine, which is a pretty kickass job.


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emily
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posted 16 April 2001 04:42 PM      Profile for emily     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I also like to look at my jobs as getting me closer to my goals (either through money for rent, or experience), otherwise, I think I'd get pretty depressed. I'm not working at my dream job just yet, but I can hope that what I'm doing now will help me get there eventually.

At the moment I'm working at a library, putting books back. It's actually a really sweet job, although not the most intellectually stimulating. Maybe soon I will have that Leadership Development job I saw.


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spad
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posted 16 April 2001 06:05 PM      Profile for spad   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
my job, as a software tester, is one that is quite enjoyable and really quite stimulating. it is not what i am going to make a career out of, i don't think. but isn't any job that keeps your mind working and you happy a good place to start?

that said, i don't know what i want to do when i grow up.


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Nic
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posted 16 April 2001 06:55 PM      Profile for Nic     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am a convienence store clerk. I definitly don't view this as a stepping stone. It's just something I'm doing to get some money to make it through school.

I hate it!!


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Gayle
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posted 17 April 2001 10:13 AM      Profile for Gayle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I've got two jobs.

My philosophy about working is this: Do what you love, and the money will follow!

It's always worked for me. I presently work 9-5 on a permanent basis for McKenzie College, administering multimedia courses through distance education. It's not my dream job, but it gives me so much freedom (I'm SO spoiled here) that I don't knock it. It pays my student loans and my car loan, it feeds me (and often, my parents), it pays to keep me in art/jewellery supplies.

Besides, I've got set hours and 4 weeks vacation, which leaves me lots of time to do: My Dream Job.

MDJ consists of being the webdesigner for a local graphic design company. It rocks my world. I'm doing what I love to do, and getting paid obscene amounts of money to do it! Hell, I'd be doing it anyway, I just managed to trick people into paying me for it. The only way it would be better would be if it were full-time.


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carrot
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posted 17 April 2001 07:37 PM      Profile for carrot     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wish I had more confidence in Gayle's philosophy, but I don't. In an ideal world, I would like a career in orchestral music, which there's hardly any money in now, and it's just getting worse. I've still got years before I really have to worry about working like that yet (right now it's enough stress trying to get into university.)

As for my current job, I don't have one. I used to work in an organic grocery store. Woo.


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posted 18 April 2001 11:13 AM      Profile for Dustmite     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Make someone feel good...everyday!
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carrot
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posted 18 April 2001 06:46 PM      Profile for carrot     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And get paid somehow?
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Marc Ponomareff
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posted 19 April 2001 09:18 AM      Profile for Marc Ponomareff   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been writing fiction for twelve years, and still haven't made a penny from it. I've been an unremunerated editor and poorly-paid translator, proofreader and freelancer. I somehow manage to stay alive by my skills as a cook.

Perhaps inevitably, creative or eccentric individuals, when not engaged in their favorite, unpaid work (be it art, music, poetry, fiction, activism) will always feel as if they are unemployed.

Work-for-wages is often drudgery-by-necessity, and saps independence. An artist's Real work, untrammelled by financial considerations, is a noble thing.

But damn it all, one is forced to compromise: one has to eat, pay for shelter, and provide for one's children...

And so, realist that I am, I may actually live to see the far side of forty

[ April 20, 2001: Message edited by: audra estrones ]


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audra trower williams
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posted 20 April 2001 09:05 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Classy of me not to answer the question myself. I'm really lucky, Gayle's philosophy has worked for me really well. I do freelance design and writing, interpret for a great Deaf kid, and run these boards, getting paid for all of it. I'm lucky. I know that it doesn't work for everyone, tho. I feel guilty sometimes that I've never had a job I hated, like Nic does.
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storygirl
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posted 21 April 2001 07:55 AM      Profile for storygirl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm about to start a position on student government, and I'm darn excited. It's been a long time since I had a positive job, in which I feel I have opportunities to effect positive change....and actually get paid for it!

Judging by friends who have had the same positions, the emotional turmoil dampens the excitement somewhat - but i'm still optimistic, it's the beginning of the year.


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Bradley
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posted 21 April 2001 11:01 AM      Profile for Bradley        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Please take a look at the post I just left in the Homelessness and Employment thread. I think that it applies to this topic too.
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Gayle
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posted 23 April 2001 01:58 PM      Profile for Gayle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe it only works for pisces, Audra? ;o)

I only ever had one crap job, and it was shlucking plates on occasional catering jobs and cleaning up after, from the time I was thirteen until I graduated high school.

I really believe that if you know and love what you're doing and you're good at it and enthusiastic, if you take risks and know where to look and who to ask, you'll get paid doing what you want to do. People do it every day.

Confidence goes a long way.


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Chrissy
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posted 24 April 2001 12:57 AM      Profile for Chrissy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think I intend to make a career out of selling tickets at Roy Thomson Hall, but it's been a pleasant place to work, and I enjoy having money. No complaints, as of yet.

In a perfect world, my french horn quartet would be the latest pop sensation, and rake in millions of dollars with our rendition of the Legend of Zelda theme song, as well as our series of original fanfares.


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Tana
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posted 27 April 2001 11:19 PM      Profile for Tana   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I edit a newsletter on First Nations media (which I like), I maintain a railway advocacy site (which bores the hell out of me), I enter mindless data into a database for a large corporation (which pays me well) and I have a kid who takes up the rest of my time and energy.

Though I feel fortunate to have all this work right now, I agree with this:

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Perhaps inevitably, creative or eccentric individuals, when not engaged in their favorite, unpaid work (be it art, music, poetry, fiction, activism) will always feel as if they are unemployed.


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Loretta
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posted 28 April 2001 04:41 AM      Profile for Loretta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps I am throwing a wrench into the works unnecessarily - I love the concept "do what you love, the money will follow" however I'm not sure I buy it.

I have been fortunate in this regard for the most part however, if all of the people of this planet followed that philosopy, who would do the grunt work that we all want done but don't want to do? Examples are too numerous to list. With all due respect to those who espouse this view, I find this one troubling.


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shiloj
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posted 29 April 2001 09:48 PM      Profile for shiloj     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i teach part-time and own a small adventure tourism business which i hope will someday make me gloriously wealthy.
ha.

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Gayle
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posted 30 April 2001 01:18 PM      Profile for Gayle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Who says no one wants to do grunt work? My brother, for instance, shovels dirt all day and loves it.

I firmly believe that for every job there is, there is someone for whom it is perfect.


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 10 May 2001 03:42 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm a temp. I like being a temp. I like being in a job for only a week or two because it doesn't give me time to screw up.

I don't like it when a client hires me through a temp agency, and then keeps me on for a long period of time. If you want to hire me on, then offer me a permanent position. Don't keep yanking my chain.

Right now I'm in a media-relations position. I respond to requests from the media. I write press releases and other documents. I really like the creative aspect of the job. It's with a think-tank, so in the process of promoting their research I get to read it as well. It's often quite fascinating.

I don't like it when there's nothing to promote. Every once in a while there are stretches where it seems the researchers aren't publishing anything. That's when I get the make-work projects I despise, like reorganizing a filing cabinet and stuff like that.

Even when I like a job, I am always applying to other jobs. I have no loyalty to an employer.


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Athena Dreaming
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posted 10 May 2001 04:18 PM      Profile for Athena Dreaming   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I have to chime in on the cynic's side of this one.

What about the folks who spend 8 hours a day sewing buttons on to suits, like in the Moore's ad? Or gluing shoes onto rubber soles? Or scrubbing toilets and sweeping the street? Cleaning the puke out of hte bathroom in fast food restaurants?

Having a job you love that pays is a wonderful thing, but it isn't a necessity and I do believe it is a mark or privilege. For teh vast majority of human history people did whatever they had to do to survive, whether that was hunting, gathering, farming, mining, or whatever. The same is true today. If you have a job you love, great! You're very lucky. If you don't, you're in good company.

For example, I would love to be working in a non-profit or in a little business by myself. I think that would be great, psychologically and emotionally. Physically, however, I'm diabetic and have asthma; I"m on a lot of very expensive prescription meds and I need a health plan. That sucks, but that's life.


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Charles
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posted 10 May 2001 06:03 PM      Profile for Charles   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree that having a job you love is a major luxury, but one I have enjoyed myself from time to time. Seven years ago I started a company that specialized in marketing and communications for small businesses and non profits. Seven years on we're a pretty large affair to the point that I have time to take on a number of interesting projects on the side, regardless of the $ involved.

When not running the show at the agency, I currently spend half my time working as communications and development co-ordinator for a United Church that mostly serves the African Canadian community in Halifax's North End. It's a wonderful experience and the people there have changed my outlook on life (it's true that the workplace can give your life direction); I thought the social gospel was dead until I stumbled upon these "Christian lefties".

I also teach courses on marketing, advertising, public relations and public speaking, do a fair bit of freelance writing and was just paid for my first play. Every one of these things has been a joy for me, and I know full well what role luck and happenstance has played in my being able to do these things. I've never had a job a loathed (though when I worked on Bay St. in Toronto I wasn't particularly happy, but I think that was more cultural), and I've been able to create a lot of opportunities for myself.

[ May 10, 2001: Message edited by: Charles ]


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Trisha
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My last job was claims clerk with OHIP, before that, word processing for MOE, before that legal secretary. Now I'm retired by disability and becoming an advocate. I earned enought to live on and support my daughter, but not enough to go back to school. The only jobs I've ever hated were way, way back, when in school and my first few. My only regret is that I was blocked from going to University. I write a little, and am working on a novel but don't know what I'll do with it when it's done. Otherwise, I'm becoming an advocate, mainly for the disabled.
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audra trower williams
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posted 15 June 2003 05:47 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today is the day I bump threads.

I am trying to start a small business, so I can hire my talented friends


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