Give him a hand up

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Originally posted by SavageInTheCity:
Theres work in IT, but these guys dont want to take them. Theres a ton of entry level work, and I mean, if your desperate, you take the lower than usual paying job. 400$ a week is better than the alternative - see above links photo!

No sympathy whatsoever, except a bit for the Ass-Kicking, but even then....

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I feel for the sick wife....I missed that in my quick glance over the article.

To make matters far worse, so many companies are doing contract work, so they can get out of paying for benefits and pensions etc. It's sad and what's worse is when a company that is raking in a lot of profit does this on a regular basis. I got lucky but I really fear for the younger generation out there who will not have the benefit of job security and likely go through 12 to 15 jobs before they get any security, if then.

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Originally posted by SavageInTheCity:
Okay,

I feel for the sick wife....I missed that in my quick glance over the article.

But still, if theres no work in TO, move. Ive had to move a few times to be in better position to serve clients. I did it out of necessity.

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Moving in Ont costs money... But that is a secondary concern.

With the wife in care, one would first have to find doctors that can make room in their case load for another patient.

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Originally posted by Stargazer:
There are a ton of contract workers in IT, with absolutely no job security. I've seen them come and go a lot, and who would blame them? It's funny because people expect and want the best in a Service Desk, yet they never see the connection between the turnover and the contract work.

To make matters far worse, so many companies are doing contract work, so they can get out of paying for benefits and pensions etc. It's sad and what's worse is when a company that is raking in a lot of profit does this on a regular basis. I got lucky but I really fear for the younger generation out there who will not have the benefit of job security and likely go through 12 to 15 jobs before they get any security, if then.

I really think our government has got to step up to the business community and demand they supply workers with full time jobs and benefits. I don't expect Harper to do this, but when he's turfed on his ass I would love to see this be raised as a real issue. All these recent graduates and future graduates who for the most part won't have the chance to get ahead in their lives due to excessive corporate greed. It's got to stop and the government needs to start investing in the younger generations through grants, lower tuitions and tighter regulations on these businesses who exploit workers in such a way. It's sad.

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I'm with you Stargazer... It simply amazes me that some companies do not grasp some simple principals of managing. It is more expensive to keep retraining people. If one instills loyalty in their workforce (a concept lost on most employers), that workforce will stay with the company through thick and thin... Even endureing wage freezes, and wage roll backs. But only when loyalty and respect are long established.

A little money spent up front, provides huge dividends in the long run. Canada needs to sort it's self out with regards to labour relations and education. Needs to do it fast.

ASIDE: Did you know that the unemployment rate only refers to people drawing employment benefits? People who's benefits run out before gaining employment are no longer counted against the employment rate, and so, in theory the rate could be going down, while more and more people are going out of work, and into the food banks and social services offices.

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Originally posted by Stargazer:
You know, I learned in college doing a business diploma years ago that the more companies put into their employees, the happier and more loyal the employees are, and the better work they are willing and able to do. It is common sense. It was explained in college as the eastern school of thought. It appears we are heavily stuck in the western school of thought, which as you say, is shortsighted and actually in the long run works against the very people who think high employee turnover and low wages are the way to go. It amazes me that supposedly smart business leaders are clueless and/or too worried about the bottom line to make such clear links - happy and well paid employees = better work performance and more loyalty to the company. I'm beginning to learn though that these guys are not really too concerned with the long term.

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Sadly you are right. I guess they really don't care about the long run, just so long as they get a good severance package.

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Exxon is giving Lee Raymond one of the most generous retirement packages in history, nearly $400 million, including pension, stock options and other perks, such as a $1 million consulting deal, two years of home security, personal security, a car and driver, and use of a corporate jet for professional purposes.

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Sorry, the quote is a quote from a blog which does not list the original source. I have also seen this in the news today, mixed in with cries about raising gas prices.

Too many people will never see that contarct extend into full-time, which is what many workers are waiting for when they go on contract. Who in their right minds, unless they are making a ton of money, would enter into a contract 'freely' knowing they will not get benefits, or have job security, and can effectively be turfed whenever the company feels like it. Most people, such as myself and a host of other people I know, and others know, take contract wortk because for the most part, that is all that is offered. Freedom means choice. That doesn't smell like choice to me.

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Originally posted by Reason:
I'm with you Stargazer... It simply amazes me that some companies do not grasp some simple principals of managing. It is more expensive to keep retraining people. If one instills loyalty in their workforce (a concept lost on most employers), that workforce will stay with the company through thick and thin... Even endureing wage freezes, and wage roll backs. But only when loyalty and respect are long established.

A little money spent up front, provides huge dividends in the long run. Canada needs to sort it's self out with regards to labour relations and education. Needs to do it fast.

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The thing is, Stargazer and Reason are spot on about contract workers in IT. It is not an even relationship. Like contract work in other fields, but especially more so, the employer holds all the cards in the relationship.

I also do not understand how this 'revolving door' concept of labour benefits the company in terms of stability and productivity. It seems whatever money is saved from an payroll factor is lost in training, efficiency and turnover.