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Loony Bin
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posted 01 April 2004 10:49 AM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm hoping this thread will be a place for the female babblers to talk about how they balance their many roles and responsibilities, drives and needs.

Each of us is pulled in multiple directions by the various things and people around us, as well as by our own hopes, ambitions and fears.

How many hats do you wear? How do you keep them all on your head?


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athena_dreaming
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posted 02 April 2004 10:46 AM      Profile for athena_dreaming   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not sure I really have much to contribute right now, considering I'm wearing the mommy hat pretty exclusively these days, but I really look forward to reading what everyone else has to say. Already trying to figure out how the hell I'm going to manage when I go back to school and work. Ack!
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Loony Bin
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posted 02 April 2004 11:16 AM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I started the thread because I'm currently going through a major whole-life overhaul. I'm leaving Toronto, leaving my boyfriend, leaving admin/receptionist work (oh, how I hope it's for good!!!), and heading to Calgary where I'll be a single fine arts student.

I'm having a hard time with all the adjustments, and with trying to imagine where I'm headed, and what my life will be like. Seems to me that all the things I'm aspiring to these days won't really allow for a romantic, long term relationship, and probably not home-ownership, most likely not motherhood...So I was hoping that babblers out there can prove me wrong, and show me how many hats one woman can wear at a time...At this point I don't feel like my head is big enough to balance more than even one or two! (not to suggest that multitalented women out there are big-headed!!)

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posted 02 April 2004 11:17 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Lizard Breath:
I started the thread because I'm currently going through a major whole-life overhaul. I'm leaving Toronto, leaving my boyfriend, leaving admin/receptionist work (oh, how I hope it's for good!!!), and heading to Calgary where I'll be a single fine arts student.

Hey, is your job up for grabs? And permanent full-time?


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Loony Bin
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posted 02 April 2004 11:19 AM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It will be in about a month's time.

It's a nice place to work. I could PM you the job posting, once it's up, if you're seriously interested. I'm the receptionist...do you wanna be a receptionist?


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posted 02 April 2004 11:55 AM      Profile for dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sort of undergoing a bit of an overhaul myself. I'm currently a part time student and working full time in a job that I don't like but is rather well paying. I've recently decided that the best thing for me to do is to start taking full time classes and switch to part time work. It's a bit scary to think that I'll likely be living on about 1/3 to 1/2 of what I'm making now (since it will be part time hours and likely lower pay) but exciting to think of doing things I actually want to be doing instead of just getting through the day. Like LB, I'm hoping that I don't end up in the same sort of work when I'm finished school but at the same time, It's good to know that there is something to fall back on.

I've also recently started looking seriously at volunteering opportunities and have been in contact with an organization that I'm very excited to learn more about.

Something about Spring that makes me really look at what I'm doing and what I should be doing. Or maybe I'm just having one of those (insert fraction) life crisises.


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lagatta
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posted 02 April 2004 11:58 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Liz, it is a very intriguing topic. I've been mulling it over. Especially since I don't think you have children, or are a caregiver to an ill or elderly family member. Those are the main things I'd associate more with women's role in terms of a balancing act, not that men might not be doing them as well, but because they are burdens that typically fall more heavily on women's shoulders.

The main "female" aspect to any balancing act I might have to play (between my precarious paid work, being a militant, being an artist...) is the fact that women tend to earn less and be consigned more to casual work, even if we are educated, and the fact that "soft" knowledge, such as arts and letters, are valued less in our culture than technology and applied science or especially business. Since I don't have children (and never wanted any) the usual meaning of "balancing act" doesn't really apply in my case.

I fail to see why being an art student - and hopefully working in an arts-related field - precludes a serious, romantic relationship. You assure me that a milieu of "alternative", interesting people does indeed exist in Calgary. I confess my familiarity with that town is limited to flying in to interpret at conferences. I saw nothing but sprawl, but I can't claim to have had the time to look for anything more positive. If such people do exist where you are moving you have as much chance of meeting one there as anywhere else.

As for children, the main problem is financial. You probably face a lifetime of precarious work, unless you want to become an arts administrator or arts faculty (and even then, those are the fields where cutbacks are usually made first). People do have children under that and worse circumstances, but I can't advise you about such a personal decision.


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dee
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posted 02 April 2004 12:13 PM      Profile for dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I've been mulling it over. Especially since I don't think you have children, or are a caregiver to an ill or elderly family member. Those are the main things I'd associate more with women's role in terms of a balancing act

While caring for dependants is certainly a major factor in some people's lives when it comes to balance, there are lots of other pressures which can throw you off kilter.

Societal pressures are something that I've been coming to terms with recently. Lots of my friends are buying houses or condos and settling into their careers and relationships. I don't see any of those things happening in my immediate future and at times that can be stressful in the whole 'what am I doing with my life' sense. You get the feeling that you are behind somehow. Never mind the fact that I don't necessarily want all of those things right now.


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Loony Bin
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posted 02 April 2004 12:34 PM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I fail to see why being an art student - and hopefully working in an arts-related field - precludes a serious, romantic relationship.

Hmm...I guess it's that what I'm imagining or hoping I'll do with my arts education will involve a lot of travel, a lot of time away from any place I might call home, and a seriously strong sense of independence and self-confidence that I can't seem to master when I'm romantically involved with someone. There's something about being part of a romantic relationship that just really squelches my professional ambition and my creative ego, you might say. I fear that it's a biological response to fruitful conditions for reproduction or something like that. My brain goes soft and my body gets comfortable...not so conducive to trekking around the globe taking photos of people and places.

I don't have any doubt that there will be interesting and attractive people in Calgary, and anywhere else I might go. It's the long-term partnership that I'm not sure I can manage alongside full-time arts studies and the burgeoning career I hope it fuels...


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posted 02 April 2004 12:36 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, dee, but liz put this topic in "feminism" so I assume she is talking about the aspects of a "balancing act" relating more to the double working day and what is still seen as women's traditional roles up against new expectations. The things you mention don't necessarily weigh heavier on women - in some respects they might weigh heavier on men as they are traditionally expected to be "breadwinners".

Unless of course you mean the fact that it is probably harder (and it is) for women to find a serious companion once we've passed our "best before" date.

Edited to add: Liz, in general I'd be the last person to put a positive spin on getting older. It sucks. But one positive aspect is that I don't think a serious relationship - in my eyes or the eyes of anyone it might be with - depend on round-the-clock availability or fawning admiration.

As for the passive, comfortable thing, that can be caused by many things in life, not just love. Not having anyone and feeling empty as a result is not exactly a great creative stimulus either. Guess we must just apply kicks to our own (figurative) rear ends, eh?

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posted 02 April 2004 12:37 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I was a photography student I had two classmates who were a long-term couple. They both had their own particular styles and interests, but they'd travel all about, camera gear in tow, together. Dunno how interested you might be in an arrangement like that, but at least it's not impossible.
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dee
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posted 02 April 2004 12:53 PM      Profile for dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The things you mention don't necessarily weigh heavier on women - in some respects they might weigh heavier on men as they are traditionally expected to be "breadwinners".

I'm not specifically thinking that these things weigh *more heavily* on women but that women might react to them a bit differently. For example, career-wise it would appear that a number of the posters in this thread are in admin type jobs where there is a much higher proportion of women to men. These are relatively stable fields which pay a decent living wage but aren't necessarily fulfilling or don't give good opportunities for self or career advancement. It can be tough to leave the security even when you don't enjoy the work.

Relationship wise, like you said, it seems that it is easier for men to find companions in later years than women so that can also affect the choices we make while we are relatively young.


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Loony Bin
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posted 02 April 2004 12:58 PM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
but liz put this topic in "feminism" so I assume she is talking about the aspects of a "balancing act" relating more to the double working day and what is still seen as women's traditional roles up against new expectations.

That is the sort of thing I was thinking about, but also the more abstract, intricate balances struck by women who want to at once be strong and competent in their chosen field of work and also be able to be more traditionally feminine in their personal lives. I was also thinking of how ambition influences women differently, how we as women might have to temper our lofty goals with the reality that is child-rearing or caregiving, or just being a committed, romantic partner, as I mentioned above.

So, not exclusively the double-workday, but the whole dual (or more) personality thing...

I guess this may not be an issue that only women face, and I'm sure that men struggle with balancing their inner lives with their more worldly selves, but I was just interested in seeing how other women deal with these challenges, not so much in how it effects men (just because I'm not a man).

And Magoo, I guess that is encouraging to hear. Thanks.


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Loony Bin
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posted 06 April 2004 04:13 PM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe it's age-specific, or maybe I'm just slow on the uptake, but these days it seems like all my friends are getting married, or coupling up for the long haul. In the face of this wave, I'm splitting up with a perfectly good boyfriend to go off to school and be who I want to be. So I'm just wondering if other female babblers have had to make similar decisions, or if they've maybe found ways to do both, without having to choose from such discrete options.

So it's more about a balance between sacrifices and payoffs, or hard and easy choices...


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posted 06 April 2004 07:39 PM      Profile for Madame X     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
dee said:

quote:
Something about Spring that makes me really look at what I'm doing and what I should be doing. Or maybe I'm just having one of those (insert fraction) life crisises.

I think there is something about Spring and rebirth that makes people reexamine life. Maybe it's part of spring cleaning.


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posted 06 April 2004 08:18 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting question, LB.

I wear a lot of hats: Mother, spouse, entrepreneur, artist, arts and community activist, co-op(artist run centre) board member and have now added to my list volunteering with a non-profit working with refugees and immigrants, and by association, self-styled ESL tutor. Oh, yeah, and homeowner.

At the moment, it's a bit too much. My volunteer stuff is out of balance because my role at the co-op has been much more demanding than is usual lately.

The secret to being able to do way too much is having a partner who is on the same page and carries an equal share of the load. I'm very fortunate that the blond guy and I work together, and also do a lot of our volunteer stuff together. For example, I'm on the board at our film co-op, but he's a member; he's on the steering committee for a group fighting to preserve inner city libraries and I'm a member of the group.

I don't think of it as me balancing roles, but the two of us balancing all our roles, and helping each other in the process.

And the travel thing: Don't let anybody tell you it's not possible to have kids and do work that requires travel. It might be a little more difficult, but it's still possible. I have done research in four countries for one of the docs we made with a baby in tow. It can be done, you just have to be very, very organized and have a parental partner who understands what you do and why you do it.


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posted 06 April 2004 08:28 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Zoot, I was thinking of you since the beginning of this thread - but figured you were working on a film. I know other people who have travelled on assignment and as aid workers (and simply travelling) with small children, and got a lot more respect than youngish Western women do otherwise in "traditional" countries, but it isn't for everyone.
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posted 06 April 2004 08:43 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, but my point was simply that children and travel are not mutually exclusive, although some make it seem so.

I haven't, unfortunately, been shooting anything, just on overload, between grant applications (everything's due in the first half of March) and a crisis at the artist-run centre. Our new manager didn't work out, so I've been coordinating and taking on some of the admin work.

Maybe I shouldn't be talking about balance just now...


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