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Centerfield
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posted 21 January 2007 08:19 PM
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TEHRAN, Iran -- Determined not to budge under pressure, Iran announced new tests of short-range missiles Sunday, and hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dismissed criticism that the country's economy has been hurt by U.N. sanctions imposed for its suspect nuclear program. The missile tests come as the U.S. Navy is sending a second aircraft carrier to the volatile Persian Gulf. U.S. officials said the USS John C. Stennis, which arrives in Mideast waters in a matter of weeks, is meant as a warning to Iran
If Iran does go to war who will back them up. Usa,Israel,and ? (vs) Iran and ? http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/world/BO40696/ [ 21 January 2007: Message edited by: Centerfield ]
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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 22 January 2007 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by M. Spector:
"Go to war"? Where does this article talk about Iran going to war?
You simply fail to comprehend Newspeak, Spector. Please report to the Minitru immediately for your reprogramming. You will not get a second warning.
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Centerfield
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posted 22 January 2007 03:08 PM
The following recent events have led to widespread suspicions that a US/Israeli attack on Iran is imminent:Additional aircraft carriers deployed to the Persian Gulf.
US Patriot missiles just deployed to the Persian Gulf.
F16 fighter planes just deployed to the Incirlik base in Turkey.
The F-16's can deliver B61-11 nuclear bunker busters.
Increased number of US nuclear submarines in Persian Gulf.
Admiral Fallon named Centcom commander.
Israeli pilots training for Iran bombing mission.
Increased provocations against Iran, including the arrest of Iranian diplomats in Iraq. Iran denies entry to 38 UN nuclear inspectors
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Tehran: Iran has barred 38 members of a UN inspection team from entering the country but has admitted others, a senior official said. The move appears to be retaliation for the UN sanctions imposed last month.
http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Iran/10098847.html I can't see Iran backing down from any attack,it would be political suicide for egomaniac Ahmadinejad. Bush the egomaniac took out Iraq,why not Iran. Wouldn't Saudia Arabia like a weaker Iran ?
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Noise
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posted 22 January 2007 03:39 PM
Actually Centerfield, I think you're onto some plans that have been underway since early 04. The americans have several military installations within Iraq that are in position to move on Irans oil fields... Bush's recent 'Surge' is a sign of this. If it is, we'll see Iran attacked in early spring.Hmmm, I might have to start up a 'signs of US attacking Iran'... If you go over the board centerfield, you'll find theres alot of info on here... Especially in the lebanon-israel war where both sides tested out new weaponry on each other ^^ quote:
TEHRAN, Iran -- Determined not to budge under pressure, Iran announced new tests of short-range missiles Sunday
I still see it as a double standard that the US can test all the weapons they want without scrutiny while Iran testing shortrange missiles is frontline news.
Phred:
Don't forget that the US is China's number one market for it's exported goods.... Irans allies are limited to arab neighboors (and non-sunni ones).
[ 22 January 2007: Message edited by: Noise ]
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Centerfield
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posted 22 January 2007 05:16 PM
Noise quote:
I still see it as a double standard that the US can test all the weapons they want without scrutiny while Iran testing shortrange missiles is frontline news.
Religious ideology that has had messianic overtones coming out of Ahmadinejad’s mouth perhaps.
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Centerfield
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posted 22 January 2007 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by evernon:
I can understand Israel's nervousness at Iran testing missles and making noise about nuclear capability. Surely there are few here that believe Ahmidinijad means to use nuclear technology for only peaceful purposes?
Might be a few here but not to many around the world.Including all countries under the UN.
Canada's then Prime Minister Paul Martin said, this threat to Israel's existence, this call for genocide coupled with Iran's obvious nuclear ambitions is a matter that the world cannot ignore. quote:
In his translation of a speech to the "World Without Zionism" conference held for students in October 2005, Nazila Fathi of The New York Times' Tehran bureau reported Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as saying, in part:Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world. But we must be aware of tricks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
The reality is the situation is getting worse and there doesn't appear to be a solution to resolve it considering Ahmadinejad no longer wants to negotiate.It's his way or the highway.
How many lives will be lost because of this egomaniac.
Another Bush with a different shirt. 
To be fair this statement was issued to support Ahmadinejad. quote:
On 20 February 2006, Iran’s foreign minister denied that Tehran wanted to see Israel wiped off the map,saying Ahmadinejad had been misunderstood. "Nobody can remove a country from the map. This is a misunderstanding in Europe of what our president mentioned," Manouchehr Mottaki told a news conference, speaking in English, after addressing the European Parliament. "How is it possible to remove a country from the map? He is talking about the regime. We do not recognise legally this regime," he said.
Hmmmmmm. [ 22 January 2007: Message edited by: Centerfield ]
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Centerfield
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posted 22 January 2007 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Frustrated Mess:
Well to begin with, maybe you can prove that Ahmadinejad has said anything you accuse him of saying, or for that matter anything worse than the racist Deputy Prime Minister of Israel who you always ignore (is his racism acceptable?). Then if Israel believes Iran poses an existential threat to Israel and has the right to build and store offensive nuclear weapons, why doesn't Iran have the same right for the same reasons particularly when there is no question both Israel and the USA threaten Iran? Why the double-standard? Maybe the question should be asked, who doesn't beleive Israel would use nukes to kill Islamic peoples especially since the racist Deputy Prime Minister of Israel has called for the nuking of Iran?
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who doesn't beleive Israel would use nukes to kill Islamic peoples
Why haven't they ? Israel has had Nukes since the 70s. It really doesn't matter who's right or wrong if the negotiations have stopped.Ahmadinejad is a dangerous leader who will bring Iran into war.
He will lose,the country will be devestated economically and lives will be lost on all sides.
And for what ?
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BetterRed
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posted 22 January 2007 09:06 PM
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Why haven't they ?Israel has had Nukes since the 70s.
Simple,
Because there was a Cold War ongoing until early 90's.
Since Israel was a US client state, and Egypt &Syria were Soviet client states(until 80's), both superpowers did their damnedest to prevent serious conflicts in ME. That was true most of the time, but not always.
After all, Yom Kippur War only lasted 3 weeks.
Israeli generals recalled how Kissinger delayed arms resupply of Israelis and later asked Israel keep supply lines open for trapped Egyptian army.
The point is that in that war, both sides were desperate,yet they were prevented from serious carnage by the superpowers.
And in the 90's, Israel thought they could hold on to their postions, as the Arab militaries weakened (i.e Iraq)
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