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WingNut
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posted 01 June 2005 12:00 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Women are raped, murdered and abused with impunity all over Afghanistan despite the overthrow of the Taliban that was supposed to have ushered in a new era of women rights, Amnesty International said on Monday, May 30.

"Hundreds of women and girls continue to suffer abuse at the hands of their husbands, fathers, brothers, armed individuals, parallel justice systems, and institutions of the state itself such as the police and the justice system," said the London-based rights group on its Web site.

“Violence against women and girls in Afghanistan is pervasive,” it said.

“Throughout the country, few women are exempt from violence or safe from the threat of it.”


Islam Online


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Briguy
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posted 01 June 2005 12:32 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I keep losing track: Are the rapists, murderers, and abusers anti-American or is Amnesty International anti-American?
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WingNut
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posted 01 June 2005 01:18 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It can be confusing. Rapists, murderers and abusers who support the "War on Errorism" are allies while those who do not are anti-American.

Although it is an important distinction to note that rapists, murderers and abusers who are "allies" aren't really rapists, murderers and abusers but "new democracies in the process of reform" while rapists, murderers and abusers who are not allies and thus are "anti-American" are "undemocratic, tyranical regimes".

Any person or group that criticizes US policy with regard for support of "new democracies in the process of reform" are anti-American and therefore discredited and irrelevant.

I hope that helps you sort it all out.


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Fidel
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posted 01 June 2005 02:56 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, at least the Soviets are out of Kabul, and Taliban children are truant free spirits.
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maestro
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posted 01 June 2005 10:40 PM      Profile for maestro     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
RAWA is also an excellent source of info on the current state of affairs in Afghanistan.

http://www.rawa.org/


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M. Spector
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posted 26 February 2008 03:24 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Six years after the US and Britain "freed" Afghan women from the oppressive Taliban regime, a new report proves that life is just as bad for most, and worse in some cases.

Projects started in the optimistic days of 2002 have begun to wane as the UK and its Nato allies fail to treat women's rights as a priority, workers in the country insist.

The statistics in the report from Womankind, Afghan Women and Girls Seven Years On, (68 pp., .pdf format) make shocking reading. Violent attacks against females, usually domestic, are at epidemic proportions with 87 per cent of females complaining of such abuse – half of it sexual. More than 60 per cent of marriages are forced.

Despite a new law banning the practice, 57 per cent of brides are under the age of 16. The illiteracy rate among women is 88 per cent with just 5 per cent of girls attending secondary school.


The Independent

Some of the report's findings:

• Violent attacks against females, usually domestic, are at epidemic proportions with 87 per cent of females complaining of such abuse – half of it sexual.
• More than 60 per cent of marriages are forced.
• Despite a new law banning the practice, 57 per cent of brides are under the age of 16.
• The illiteracy rate among women is 88 per cent with just 5 per cent of girls attending secondary school.
• Maternal mortality rates – one in nine women dies in childbirth – are the highest in the world alongside Sierra Leone.
• And 30 years of conflict have left more than one million widows with no enforceable rights, left to beg on the streets alongside an increasing number of orphans.
• Afghanistan is the only country in the world with a higher suicide rate among women than men.

[ 02 March 2008: Message edited by: M. Spector ]


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adam stratton
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posted 26 February 2008 04:15 PM      Profile for adam stratton        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And dog fighting has been restored as 'entertainment' for the masses after the Taliban had banned it.

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One Good Reason Why Dogs Miss the Taliban...

Say what you will about the freshly-ousted Taliban regime in Afghanistan; we've all heard how their strict, totalitarian form of government forbade kite-flying, beard-cutting and Arnold Schwarzenegger films. But one restriction will be sorely missed by many four-footed Afghans: the prohibition of dog-fighting.

http://tinyurl.com/24frnx


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unionist
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posted 26 February 2008 04:25 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the timely reality check, M. Spector.
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martin dufresne
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posted 26 February 2008 05:21 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the link to Terri Judd's news story in The Independent (above) was broken. Here is another one: Women's lives worse than ever
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scooter
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posted 26 February 2008 07:44 PM      Profile for scooter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll take the report with a grain of salt. A quick google of news brings up numerous reports showing improvements of varying success. I doubt that the "National Need" party for women's rights and issues would have existed under Taliban rule.
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Fidel
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posted 26 February 2008 09:14 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
U.S. Policy Has Betrayed Afghan Women for 20 Years
Before the reform-minded PDPA took power in the late 1970s, Afghan women were forced to wear the stifling head to toe veil, and had no right to own property, go to school, or divorce. They were considered non-persons in the eyes of the law. The female literacy rate was one percent and polygamy was common.

The PDPA regime promoted education for girls, gave women the right to divorce and own property, and reduced the bride price to a nominal fee. It also distributed land to the impoverished peasants and restrained the power of the mullahs, the Muslim clergy.

In response, the mullahs told the peasants that Allah would hang them upside down in the sky for all eternity if they accepted the government land grants and allowed women to be unveiled and to go to school. Soon rural Afghanistan had exploded in a rebellion which threatened to topple the PDPA--perhaps the only war in modern history begun largely over women's rights.[/quote]

How U.S. destroyed progressive secular forces in Afghanistan

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What authority bears witness to this? None other than the U.S. Department of the Army itself.

The Pentagon puts out what it calls country study books on almost every country in the world. They are updated every few years. These books contain basic information for the use of U.S. personnel traveling or working abroad.

There's nothing classified in them. They're available in most libraries.

Afghanistan—a Country Study for 1986 has of course the anti-communist line expected of a Pentagon publication. But it also contains much useful information about the changes instituted by the Afghani Revolution of 1978.


Imperialist USSA and the western world in general doesn't give a shit about Afghan women, children, or people in general.


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adam stratton
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posted 27 February 2008 06:14 AM      Profile for adam stratton        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I doubt that the "National Need" party for women's rights and issues would have existed under Taliban rule. -scooter

The existence of a party -in many Western puppet pseu-democracies- is no indication of its authenticity, desire for change or efficacity. How many a party have been "allowed" as window dress, co-opted of course.


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martin dufresne
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posted 27 February 2008 06:40 AM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is also the possibility that things are degenerating to the point that women have to organize on their own to try and address new powers-that-be, now that traditional systems and recourses have been broken down by the war against their country, the disappearance of legit jobs, the killing or jailing of their husbands and sons, etc. Read www.rawa.org about these developments before suggesting credit is due to Western invaders and their indiscriminate bombing of communities (and support for the heinous Karzai puppet regime).

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margrace
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posted 27 February 2008 07:02 AM      Profile for margrace        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Any one hear Bill Moyers interview with Sarah Chaye, good for a read especially after reading the above. I have the address but if I post it it won't work but it comes up on google
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Ibelongtonoone
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posted 27 February 2008 10:33 AM      Profile for Ibelongtonoone        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not sure how the behaviour of Afghan men toward Afghan women can be blamed on coalition forces, but before you start a petition to bring back the Taliban maybe you should ask the musicians, movie theatre operators, artists, students, athletes, doctors, ect, ect. - how they feel ?
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M. Spector
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posted 02 March 2008 09:55 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ibelongtonoone:
I'm not sure how the behaviour of Afghan men toward Afghan women can be blamed on coalition forces...
So-called "coalition" forces are fighting and dying to defend the reactionary, corrupt, U.S.-backed government that ensures the perpetuation of the oppression of women in that country - all the while pretending that their actions are having the opposite effect.


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